Speculation: Stammergeddon 2024: Is Stamkos going to re-sign with the Lightning?
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Todd1a
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The Gongshow
Fire JBB
If JBB signs Stamkos and Guentzel I'll forgive him for all his sins. (Obviously trades will need to happen to open up enough cap)
Felonious Python
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The Gongshow
Fire JBB
Wait what? We aren't signing Stamkos by July 1st?
Writing has been on the wall for some time now. JBB has finally stopped gaslighting us.
Stamkos is 100% gone. JBB is a lying cheating whore.
Crunchrulz
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Folks, as a fan living in Syracuse, there is not a lot left on the farm to overhaul. The farm, and much of the future, were used to go back-to-back and nearly back, as it should have been. That is one of the tings a farm system is for. While there may well be a few players who will make the NHL and stay there, none of them have played a regular shift in Syracuse so far for an entire season. A few games then back to college or juniors is not enough to evaluate a player's performance against AHL caliber talent.
Syracuse fans have been trying to explain this for the past few seasons, but it has fallen on deaf ears more often than not. Sadly, it has taken the situation that we are in today for fans outside of Syracuse to realize that we may very well have been correct when we were trying to give a head's up that the days of having the finest farm system in the league are gone and we are now considered in the bottom tier by many who gave us that top rating just five season ago.
Syracuse fans have been trying to explain this for the past few seasons, but it has fallen on deaf ears more often than not. Sadly, it has taken the situation that we are in today for fans outside of Syracuse to realize that we may very well have been correct when we were trying to give a head's up that the days of having the finest farm system in the league are gone and we are now considered in the bottom tier by many who gave us that top rating just five season ago.
Todd1a
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ccman68
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he waited until the last second on his previous team friendly deal so idk about that
Todd1a
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So much that JBB was very hopeful as soon as he got off the plane from Miami lol
he has no interest in signing Stamkos to a fair deal
Zwui21
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The truth is JBB is a cutthroat and knows Stamkos isn't as valuable to this team as he once was. And we all know it.
This is the reason why JBB didn't sign Stammer last offseason, this is the reason why he isn't signed yet.
We all love Stammer, but it's time to face reality: he's a PP specialist with a 5v5 game that is net negative (by a lot, I might add). Do you guys really want to commit 7 or 8+M x many years to that? Even if we had cap space I would be against that. We already have Sergachev and Cirelli on overpriced contracts compared to what's their contribution on the ice, if we add a bloated Stamkos contract this will be the nail in the coffin for this core.
We need to bring in some fresh blood, trade either Cirelli or Serg (or both, if we can fill holes and get Guentzel) and re-sign Stammer to a team friendly contract. If he wants north of 6-6.5 with term, let him walk and let another team deal with a bad contract.
This is the reason why JBB didn't sign Stammer last offseason, this is the reason why he isn't signed yet.
We all love Stammer, but it's time to face reality: he's a PP specialist with a 5v5 game that is net negative (by a lot, I might add). Do you guys really want to commit 7 or 8+M x many years to that? Even if we had cap space I would be against that. We already have Sergachev and Cirelli on overpriced contracts compared to what's their contribution on the ice, if we add a bloated Stamkos contract this will be the nail in the coffin for this core.
We need to bring in some fresh blood, trade either Cirelli or Serg (or both, if we can fill holes and get Guentzel) and re-sign Stammer to a team friendly contract. If he wants north of 6-6.5 with term, let him walk and let another team deal with a bad contract.
The Gongshow
Fire JBB
I get trying to be cautious with the cap and saving where possible, but man, don't be stingy with the franchise guy who's willing to take a discount already. His production is still PPG, don't insult the man with something ridiculous.So much that JBB was very hopeful as soon as he got off the plane from Miami lol
Does he really think ANY top 6 FA is gonna only take 3-4mil? JBB is delusional
I mean, at 10m, I think this is a good point. At anything under 8... 40 goals is 40 goals, no matter how you slice it, and it's not easy to replace.
If we could find someone we were sure would make us better 5v5, I'd be fine with it. To me, making a major trade has the potential to both make us better 5v5 while allowing us to remain one of the best two or three PPs in the league.
All hyperbole aside, this is well and good if JBB has a concrete plan to improve the roster.
If the plan is to let the black-hole, washed, 40G power play specialist (which seems like an amazing trick) to walk without replacing him with better talent then this is all pointless.
The Gongshow
Fire JBB
Problem is if you lose Stamkos then keep status-quo then the team ia already cooked. Down 2 top 6 forwards and a one line team. This smells wild card at best for 1 to 2 more years then back to missing the post season. JBB gonna just sign nobody 4th liners with the little cap he has gave himself to use.
DistantThunderRep
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I see nothing of this with Guentzel. I don't see the hype. Anyone who signs him long term for high salary is going to regret it. The guy is 30. A 7 or 8 year deal for him would be hell for half of it, if not more.
Zwui21
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Definitely, that would be quite devastating.
If Stamkos walks, I'm pretty sure one of Sergachev or Cirelli will be traded for some good (+still cheap) assets and we take a run at Guentzel. But this is all hypothetic, as we saw with Hanifin you can't count of a player making it to FA.
If Stamkos walks and we can't replace him, that's a L on JBB. Not an easy position to be in, but he's got to sort it out.
The Gongshow
Fire JBB
Why not just trade one of Cirelli or Serge and re-sign Stamkos?
I know he's completely worthless, but he is worthless with 40G at least.
He's making $8.5M a year currently on his prime contract. There's no indication that he's trying to railroad the Lightning for money. In fact, it's most likely the opposite. If he's asking for $6.5M, where is anyone supposed to find a replacement for that production at that price?
These Are The Days
Oh no! We suck again!!
The Gongshow
Fire JBB
Brother, it's burnt. Turn the stove off. I'm tired of inhaling all this smoke
Todd1a
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FinnLightning26
Death and no taxes
JBB better have a hell of a plan if Stammer walks and if Stammer is asking for a reasonable amount.
This is terrible news.
I feel like the deal we are offering Stamkos is a lot less than just "team friendly."
I just don't understand the logic of bringing in McDonagh if it was gonna cost us Stamkos. And I say that as someone who loved the move, because you had to assume there was a second move coming. This is atrocious.
These Are The Days
Oh no! We suck again!!
I'm taking a deep breath and reminding myself this is a game of chicken. Just get it done and make the team better JFBB
*deep exhale*
Let him cook
*deep exhale*
Let him cook
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