Stamkos is cooked

[hotpaws]

He should ask Tavares to borrow his wellness amulet

he should also ask to borrow Marner

 

[EpochLink]

Nashville did really poor pro scouting this offseason, all they say was ZOMG STAMKOSZZZ was available and gave him a retirement contract.

Did they just see highlights on ESPN thinking he was able to produce with the Preds like he did with the Bolts? Stamkos on the PP is brilliant but his 5 on 5 is basura at best.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Everyone knew the guy was cooked, he was cherry picking points off Kucherov and Point last year. Those guys got Jake Guentzel and are destroying the league points wise while Stamkos is in the basement with Nashville on a bloated deal.

 

[DFC]

Were they ever? I thought the consensus was that it was a shame to see a deal not get done, but the price he wanted didn't make sense for the impact he had on games.

Rumor broke out that Stamkos was asking for 4m and TB was offering 2. There was some anger over that. It now seems like 4m was never a real offer from Stamkos.

We always figured it would make us better 5v5 to lose him. Honestly, I figured the PP wouldn't miss a beat, because it never did when Stamkos missed months at a time. It did struggle to begin this year, but I think we are 4th in the league now?

It's a sad end, because Stamkos meant so much to the franchise as a person. But most TB fans could see that a lot of his numbers were smoke and mirrors.

 

[Mike C]

Some athletes decline earlier than others throughout history of sports. It's always surprising or unexpected to some however.

He also has played the equivalent of an extra season and a half of playoff games. Deep runs, short off seasons. Takes a toll. His body is probably much older than his age indicates

 

[Legionnaire11]

Stamkos' current issues aside...

The people who say "powerplay merchant", does it matter if a player scores 40 on the PP vs ES? 40 goals is 40 goals, and if you want to win hockey games you better be able to score on the PP and win the special teams battle.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

"Cooked" is so strong.

Perhaps the people who had him in their fantasy draft are cooked.

 

[The Macho King]

Stamkos' current issues aside...

The people who say "powerplay merchant", does it matter if a player scores 40 on the PP vs ES? 40 goals is 40 goals, and if you want to win hockey games you better be able to score on the PP and win the special teams battle.

I think the issue is less that he scores more on the PP and more of a) he's a product of Kucherov on the PP (which means without him his production has cratered) and b) less about his goal scoring ES and more of just quality of play at ES.

 

[EXTRAS]

Only 4 more years, Nashville!

And looking at the buyout options it's almost not worth it. Better to just play him on the 3rd line as he declines.

 

[joestevens29]

Why is this still shocking? Most Tampa fans said this, most people that watched Tampa last year said this.

Guy still has a role in nhl but not has an elite forward. Pp specialist

Stamkos' current issues aside...

The people who say "powerplay merchant", does it matter if a player scores 40 on the PP vs ES? 40 goals is 40 goals, and if you want to win hockey games you better be able to score on the PP and win the special teams battle.

Ya but he ain’t getting 40 anywhere so ….

 

[Plural]

I mean Filip Forsberg is on pace for 52 points after 94 last year.

Did Forsberg, O'Reilly, Marchessault, and Stamkos all get cooked at the same time? It's a team playing like shit.

Forsberg said to a Finnish commentator in the summer that he's about to score 70 goals next season. Will be lucky to get 70 points

 

[BLNY]

Trotz went full Yzerman, and thankfully beat him out in signing Stamkos.

You never go full Yzerman.

 

[joestevens29]

Forsberg said to a Finnish commentator in the summer that he's about to score 70 goals next season. Will be lucky to get 70 points

Never trust an interview at 4am outside a strip club

 

[Divine]

Stamkos wasn't wrong when he said he knows what loyalty means to him

He's so loyal to Tampa he won't even show up for Nashville

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Never trust an interview at 4am outside a strip club

Lol is that srs or joke?

Watchin Faceoff now because there are no f***in games on a Friday f***in night, and Forsberg is awesome- due for a drop off though.

That whole team is such an odd mishmash- sell it for parts, redo.

 

[joestevens29]

Lol is that srs or joke?

Watchin Faceoff now because there are no f***in games on a Friday f***in night, and Forsberg is awesome- due for a drop off though.

I mean I don’t know if you’re serious.

70 goals sounds like something a drunk person would say at 4am

 

[Jmo89]

Guentzel is on pace for 49 goals and 88 points.

Safe to say Tampa management knew what was up.

Fantastic signing and swap for Tampa.

 

[Mike C]

I mean I don’t know if you’re serious.

70 goals sounds like something a drunk person would say at 4am

Or 4pm for that matter

 

[nbwingsfan]

He was essentially cooked and in the Lane territory of PP specialist last season.

Not having Kuch carry him on the PP was always going to lead to this kind of result this season.

Cringed at a select few Wings fans who wanted him.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Crazy as it is, he'd be PPG in Tampa probably. He shoulda took a discount for the legacy and possibly another cup, but money talks. Guy was a hell of a player in his prime.. He's only 34, it really makes you think how that knee injury 7-8 years ago is ruining his play right now.

 

[DFC]

Crazy as it is, he'd be PPG in Tampa probably. He shoulda took a discount for the legacy and possibly another cup, but money talks. Guy was a hell of a player in his prime.. He's only 34, it really makes you think how that knee injury 7-8 years ago is ruining his play right now.

If he played 5v5 with Kucherov, ppg wouldn't be out of the question. But there are only 3 or 4 guys in the league who can get that kind of production out of Stamkos.

 

[Sky04]

Production aside, Stamkos got away with doing a ton of stupid shit while on the ice too, extremely careless passes, turnovers and defensive lapses that were just glossed over because he's Stamkos in Tampa, not surprised at all with those "detrimental" results - we've seen it for years. On the other side of that Guentzel almost never does anything stupid with the puck, an extremely solid and consistent player.

 

[dragonballgtz]

Thought he would have at least one somewhat productive season, similar to Fedorov leaving the Wings in his mid 30s. Unfortunately for the Preds this doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[Rschmitz]

His first few seasons in the league he was just as likely to get an odd man rush goal as he was to get a goal purely off his shot. He lost that elite speed after the Boston leg injury, his speed is now noticeably average/below average. For years his ability to generate offense on his own because of that has diminished.

He also had a lethal wrist shot that he doesn’t use as much any more thanks to upper body injuries. I think it’s purely psychological, because he still has that shot. I seen a stat last year that mentioned how he did more slapshots/ one timers than any other high scoring forward in the league. Historically this is why he’s struggled in the postseason, when the games are played tighter you have less of an opportunity to wind up your shots.


Still knows how to get to dangerous scoring areas of the ice, still knows what to do when the puck is on his stick, but if the other guys on the team don’t get him the puck in the o zone he’s a passenger. He defines the phrase power play specialist now.

 

[Jack Spider]

I don't understand how Trotz was fooled into signing Stamkos on that term. Stamkos's stats would look sexy in Swiss league in a year or two.