SSM Greyhounds 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

[dirty12]

Idk, to each their own. My point was keeping someone for thr future, instead of going for it this year. If they think Hopkins can't be upgraded, keep him and run with him.

Ersonally, I'd look at sending a package of gibson, allard and shenkle to Kingston for Hopkins and picks.

you would be getting Heyes in return, and Kingston is very unlikely to kick local OA goalie and family friend of the owner to the curb; so, no to Schenkel and no picks in return. Maybe add Cloutier or Mignosa for Vellaris and picks; then it's one stop shopping for the frontenacs.

 

[DWI Dale]

It's less about not giving a piece of the team's future but more about also not giving up a big piece of their present. Hopkins is Kingston's 2C and is just shy of PPG.


The biggest NCAA fish Kingston has is Matthew Manza - PPG and rookie of the year for the entire CJHL last year as a 16 year old, moved out to the BCHL and after missing the first couple months has 2 pts in 7 games, committed to Ohio State for 25-26.

I do think Weir needs a change of scenery but his value is at the absolute best equivalent to a 4th.

Totally fair, although I'd argue a 17 year old centering your 2nd line isn't enough to win a championship.

That's just my 2 cents but I'm a firm believer that contenders are built around 19 and 20 year olds with "neckbeards", and that when the ice shrinks and things get more physical a 17 year old centering the 2nd line won't cut it.

 

[DWI Dale]

Ersonally, I'd look at sending a package of gibson, allard and shenkle to Kingston for Hopkins and picks.

2 overagers would be a tough deal to make, but would certainly give the Fronts some "win now" firepower.

 

[Houndzfan20]

you would be getting Heyes in return, and Kingston is very unlikely to kick local OA goalie and family friend of the owner to the curb; so, no to Schenkel and no picks in return. Maybe add Cloutier or Mignosa for Vellaris and picks; then it's one stop shopping for the frontenacs.

I heard that lalonde is local but imo shenkle is an upgrade. And I know he beat Charlie last year but IMO saginaws d was stronger.

Be a shame to keep a kid in a go for it year juat because he's a friend tho..seems a disservice to the fans.

 

[leafs4life94]

Totally fair, although I'd argue a 17 year old centering your 2nd line isn't enough to win a championship.

That's just my 2 cents but I'm a firm believer that contenders are built around 19 and 20 year olds with "neckbeards", and that when the ice shrinks and things get more physical a 17 year old centering the 2nd line won't cut it.

I 100% agree that the team should be built around 19/20 year olds - but the issue with trading a contributing 17 year old is that then Kingston would need to find another 19/20 year old to replace/improve on Hopkins' production, while also potentially looking at an OA upgrade on Heyes.

This is the exact situation that proves Kingston really blew it with a defected 1st this year - if Kingston had Malhotra there would be a clear starting point to negotiations.

 

[HockeyPops]

Tyler Hopkins would be bumped down to 3C on a true contender. An OA upgrade (Allard?) would get them there. Very similar to the year the Hounds had Hayton as 3C when they lost in the finals to Hamilton. In fact, I think his production at this point was right around where Hopkins' is too.

The problem with trading him is that your third line production dries right up and now you need to go out and spend more to replace that lost production.

EDIT: sniped by leafs4life

 

[DWI Dale]

This is the exact situation that proves Kingston really blew it with a defected 1st this year - if Kingston had Malhotra there would be a clear starting point to negotiations.

We know all about defective players in the 2024 draft lol