Value of: Spencer Knight to Winnipeg

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

So, with the Hellebuyck rumours, but not just that along with Dubois and Scheifele I could see potentially a Spencer Knight trade as the Panthers might want to free up some cap space. I think Spencer Knight gets his chance as a starter in Winnipeg if he were to get traded there.

But just pretend here that Scheifele, Hellebuyck and Dubois are already traded. Because I see those four already not bound for Florida. Maurice left cause of Scheifele, Dubois wants the money Florida can't give him, and finally, the Panthers have Bobrovsky in net for three more seasons.

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[Qwijibo]

Is he still in the employee assistance program?

 

[GhostfaceWu]

I dont think Winnipeg has the pieces to even have a convo right now.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Why would Florida give up on their goalie of the future after they already traded Levi? Doesn’t make sense for them.

 

[nhlfan9191]

So, with the Hellebuyck rumours, but not just that along with Dubois and Scheifele I could see potentially a Spencer Knight trade as the Panthers might want to free up some cap space. I think Spencer Knight gets his chance as a starter in Winnipeg if he were to get traded there.

But just pretend here that Scheifele, Hellebuyck and Dubois are already traded. Because I see those four already not bound for Florida. Maurice left cause of Scheifele, Dubois wants the money Florida can't give him, and finally, the Panthers have Bobrovsky in net for three more seasons.

Bobrovsky had a nice run but Florida would be absolute dummies to think a month hot streak erases the last 4 years. They need Knight to be their goalie of the future and they’re still likely going to have to address Bobrovsky’s contract at some point.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Is he still in the employee assistance program?

Yes, he is. And I don't think Zito is cold enough to trade him before he returns.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Think there'd be a horrible narrative if Florida moves Knight while in PAP.
I think Bob is a Panther until end of next year and then his NMC opens up and his salary drops to around $6 mil and Panthers likely retain a chunk and move him if he has another decent year (Reg. Season + playoffs)

It gives Knight another year to see where he's at as I personally think he'll be back next year after a full year off to regroup and deal with his issues.

Not sure if there's a proposal here from OP or more asking if Knight is available?

 

[Beezeral]

Think there'd be a horrible narrative if Florida moves Knight while in PAP.
I think Bob is a Panther until end of next year and then his NMC opens up and his salary drops to around $6 mil and Panthers likely retain a chunk and move him if he has another decent year (Reg. Season + playoffs)

It gives Knight another year to see where he's at as I personally think he'll be back next year after a full year off to regroup and deal with his issues.

Not sure if there's a proposal here from OP or more asking if Knight is available?

It’s just random speculation and wishing

 

[heilongjetsfan]

I dont think Winnipeg has the pieces to even have a convo right now.

Lol wut? Disregarding entirely the fact that there's 0% chance we're looking to add a 22 year old from the assistance program to be our starter, and also the fact that such a player won't actually get you any assets, I'd like to know which assets you think Winnipeg lacks to make a trade that benefits only Florida?

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Lol wut? Disregarding entirely the fact that there's 0% chance we're looking to add a 22 year old from the assistance program to be our starter, and also the fact that such a player won't actually get you any assets, I'd like to know which assets you think Winnipeg lacks to make a trade that benefits only Florida?

No you're totally right his life a career is over derp derp. This from a fanbase that thinks a 30 yr old goalie ufa to be looking for a retirement contract will net them more.

 

[mouser]

Is he still in the employee assistance program?

We don’t know.

The assistance program strongly recommends that players not participate in the playoffs even if they’ve completed their treatment program in time to do so.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

It was vastly talked about all playoffs that Bob plays best when his workload is lighter. People seem to forget that he'll be 35 next year. Florida just signed their 2 star players to 8 year deals I highly doubt they plan to rebuild when Bob falls off in the next 2-3 years, Knight is his predecessor like Saros was for Rinne in Nashville (in fact they are the same age gap too)

 

[MardyBum]

No thanks.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

No you're totally right his life a career is over derp derp. This from a fanbase that thinks a 30 yr old goalie ufa to be looking for a retirement contract will net them more.

I didn't say that. What I said is that no NHL team would take him as a starter for this season. And also that he has next to zero trade value.

Inexplicably you think a guy with 3 Vezina nominations in the past 5 years is worth less than him even though he has fewer lifetime GP than Hellebuyck did this season?

I dunno if you're an s-tier troll or you're directly related to this kid, but there are very few other explanations for what you're saying here.

 

[Guffman]

I dunno if you're an s-tier troll or you're directly related to this kid, but there are very few other explanations for what you're saying here.

Ran into him recently in another thread. Definitely the former.

 

[Laus723]

I didn't say that. What I said is that no NHL team would take him as a starter for this season. And also that he has next to zero trade value.

Inexplicably you think a guy with 3 Vezina nominations in the past 5 years is worth less than him even though he has fewer lifetime GP than Hellebuyck did this season?

I dunno if you're an s-tier troll or you're directly related to this kid, but there are very few other explanations for what you're saying here.

A. According to Seravalli he’s ready to go for next season and they expect no issues. Go back a podcast or two where he talks about the possibility of trading Bob due to his playoff run.

B. that poster’s a troll yet you’ve shit on the kid twice AND doubled down on him not having any trade value? Lmao, pretty funny. Sure, a 23 year old former first round pick who’s got decent numbers after 57 games, was honest enough to seek help and could come back even stronger has “next to zero trade” because he was in the program.

Wrong!

He’s not going anywhere anyway, but wow.

 

[Guffman]

A. According to Seravalli he’s ready to go for next season and they expect no issues. Go back a podcast or two where he talks about the possibility of trading Bob due to his playoff run.

B. that poster’s a troll yet you’ve shit on the kid twice AND doubled down on him not having any trade value? Lmao, pretty funny. Sure, a 23 year old former first round pick who’s got decent numbers after 57 games, was honest enough to seek help and could come back even stronger has “next to zero trade” because he was in the program.

Wrong!

He’s not going anywhere anyway, but wow.

I don’t think I would be throwing out a three year, $4.5M AAV RFA contract based on “decent numbers” after 57 games. That’s a lot of $ ties up with middling goaltender performance.

I think it is fair to say that no team should be pencilling Knight as their #1 goalie for next season.

What so you think his trade value currently is?

 

[Laus723]

I don’t think I would be throwing out a three year, $4.5M AAV RFA contract based on “decent numbers” after 57 games. That’s a lot of $ ties up with middling goaltender performance.

I think it is fair to say that no team should be pencilling Knight as their #1 goalie for next season.

What so you think his trade value currently is?

A lot more than “next to nothing.” Surely you’re wise enough to understand that.

Maybe Zito jumped the gun on the deal, and he won’t start here, but it’s absurd to say the kid has no value.

 

[Guffman]

A lot more than “next to nothing.” Surely you’re wise enough to understand that.

Maybe Zito jumped the gun on the deal, and he won’t start here, but it’s absurd to say the kid has no value.

I think it’s a situation where other teams would want to see him back to playing and see how he holds up.

I don’t see teams wanting to trade for him right now with his playing uncertainty and excessive cap hit.

Basically, his trade value is at its lowest point.

 

[Laus723]

I think it’s a situation where other teams would want to see him back to playing and see how he holds up.

I don’t see teams wanting to trade for him right now with his playing uncertainty and excessive cap hit.

Basically, his trade value is at its lowest point.

Ok, but it’s not next to zero. The fact that Seravalli has said the Panthers expect no issues and he’s good to go tells you he’s not going anywhere, and while I agree his value is at its lowest, that alone should tell you he’s not going anywhere.

But next go nothing? You think he’d go for a 6th? A 7th? A cap dump? Honestly? What’s the motive for Florida to do that?? Imo you’re asking me the wrong questions.

 

[Guffman]

Ok, but it’s not next to zero. The fact that Seravalli has said the Panthers expect no issues and he’s good to go tells you he’s not going anywhere, and while I agree his value is at its lowest, that alone should tell you he’s not going anywhere.

But next go nothing? You think he’d go for a 6th? A 7th? A cap dump? Honestly? What’s the motive for Florida to do that?? Imo you’re asking me the wrong questions.

We should have a thread to ask the forum what the value of Knight is. It won't be great. I can't see any team really interested in adding a $4.5M AAV goalie with a middling NHL track record who needed to take time off last year.

Maybe it is next to nothing... so for that reason, Florida would not trade him.

 

[Laus723]

We should have a thread to ask the forum what the value of Knight is. It won't be great. I can't see any team really interested in adding a $4.5M AAV goalie with a middling NHL track record who needed to take time off last year.

Maybe it is next to nothing... so for that reason, Florida would not trade him.

You mean a forum that regularly both over and under rate player values? Players are worth what a GM is willing to pay anyway. We see that every year.

But yes, Florida would not/is not going to be trading Spencer.

 

[Ainsy01]

Hart makes more sense

 

[GhostfaceWu]

I didn't say that. What I said is that no NHL team would take him as a starter for this season. And also that he has next to zero trade value.

Inexplicably you think a guy with 3 Vezina nominations in the past 5 years is worth less than him even though he has fewer lifetime GP than Hellebuyck did this season?

I dunno if you're an s-tier troll or you're directly related to this kid, but there are very few other explanations for what you're saying here.

As a ufa that is prob gonna ask for 8 million long term minimum yeah no one should be giving up a butload for him florida certainly wouldnt trade for him. Knight is still one of the best goalie prospects in the game the fact he was mature enough at a young enough age to address a personal issue doesn't decrease his value on the ice. Who does Winnipeg even have to offer to get Florida to listen exactly? They aren't putting connor on the table and they dont have any prospects or picks that would be enticing so where exactly did the shock and awe about my comment come from for you.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

A. According to Seravalli he’s ready to go for next season and they expect no issues. Go back a podcast or two where he talks about the possibility of trading Bob due to his playoff run.

B. that poster’s a troll yet you’ve shit on the kid twice AND doubled down on him not having any trade value? Lmao, pretty funny. Sure, a 23 year old former first round pick who’s got decent numbers after 57 games, was honest enough to seek help and could come back even stronger has “next to zero trade” because he was in the program.

Wrong!

He’s not going anywhere anyway, but wow.

I mean, won't be actually zero. Certainly would be disappointing compared to the pick he was taken with.

I didn't shit on him, I said no GM in the world would consider him a starter. That just means that if you have 57 games played they better be pretty freaking good games to hand him full custody of a net for a couple years. There's very little to judge his quality by and GMs don't usually take big swings on unknowns in net - especially not ours.

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As a ufa that is prob gonna ask for 8 million long term minimum yeah no one should be giving up a butload for him florida certainly wouldnt trade for him. Knight is still one of the best goalie prospects in the game the fact he was mature enough at a young enough age to address a personal issue doesn't decrease his value on the ice. Who does Winnipeg even have to offer to get Florida to listen exactly? They aren't putting connor on the table and they dont have any prospects or picks that would be enticing so where exactly did the shock and awe about my comment come from for you.

You don't know that he was "mature enough" for anything. It's not fair to speculate one way or the other, and there are reasons beyond substance abuse to be involved in that program. But in cases where it is substance abuse, sometimes the "choice" the player has is "enter treatment or we're terminating the contract."

Again, Winnipeg is not trying to get Florida to listen to anything. If he were playing for Winnipeg, it would be as a backup and that's not the way he's being paid. We have numerous options open around the league through trades we've signalled we intend to make (Dubois, Hellebuyck and probably Scheifele) and there are good cheap backups that we know like Brossoit, Comrie and Rittich that all seemed to enjoy their time here. Not to mention guys like Korpisalo who probably wouldn't cost much more than what Helle costs now.

The shock and awe comes from the fact that you tried to make an apples to apples comparison between a troubled goalie prospect and a guy that might win his 2nd Vezina next Monday (probably will be Ullmark though cos his season was historic). You said directly that Knight had a higher trade value, which is literally insane.