Speculation: Speculation, Rumours, and all ArmChair-GM-ing Needs v.12

[Johnny Hoxville]

A Sharks fan suggested this and I like it for both teams.

Marleau for Wideman

Wonder if they would take Raymond at 2 million in that deal?

 

[Lunatik]

Wonder if they would take Raymond at 2 million in that deal?

I'd do 50% honestly.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I'd do 50% honestly.

If they would take him, Marleau fills that spot on our 2LW. Then we roll with Smid, Schlemko, Morrison, Wotherspoon, etc. on our bottom pairing.

 

[Skobel24]

A Sharks fan suggested this and I like it for both teams.

Marleau for Wideman

I would do that so fast. I am a huge Marleau fan.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Hudler
Marleau - Bennett - Frolik

Gio - Brodie
Hamilton - Russell
Schlemko - Engelland/Smid

 

[Lunatik]

Rumours out of Germany have Wolf heading back home.

 

[Kahvi]

From what I understood, during Gio's injury last year that defensive depth was big concern. While Marleau might have better value than Wideman, I think Flames shouldnt trade any top-4 defencemen away before some of the younger guys show if they have developed etc.

 

[Demetric]

I would love to have Marleau on the Flames, I played a little with him in high school

 

[RedHot]

It's not the worst value, but why would the Sharks ever make that deal?

 

[Skobel24]

Rumours out of Germany have Wolf heading back home.

Meh. Very small chance he'd have ever made the roster this year. It was a no risk experiment.

 

[Skobel24]

It's not the worst value, but why would the Sharks ever make that deal?

I can't see why they would either.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

A Sharks fan suggested this and I like it for both teams.

Marleau for Wideman

I strongly dislike this.

Don't get me wrong, player for player the value is there, but as a 35-year-old, Marleau is due for a drop-off in production/ability very soon. Probably too soon for it to matter for the Flames, we're not contenders yet.

I would much rather deal Wideman for futures as it would fit better with the team's long term plan. Would also like to hang on to him as well, until one (or more) of our prospects show that they're ready for the NHL.

 

[Wayne Primeau]

I strongly dislike this.

Don't get me wrong, player for player the value is there, but as a 35-year-old, Marleau is due for a drop-off in production/ability very soon. Probably too soon for it to matter for the Flames, we're not contenders yet.

I would much rather deal Wideman for futures as it would fit better with the team's long term plan. Would also like to hang on to him as well, until one (or more) of our prospects show that they're ready for the NHL.

But with a top six of Monahan, Gaudreau, Hudler, Bennett, Marleau, and Frolik, and with our current defensive core, would we not be contenders?

 

[Ace Rimmer]

But with a top six of Monahan, Gaudreau, Hudler, Bennett, Marleau, and Frolik, and with our current defensive core, would we not be contenders?

No, because without Wideman the defensive core looks like this:

Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Russell
Engelland - Smid(if returning?)/Wotherspoon/UFA plug-in

One injury to the top four and the Flames are no better off than last post-season, playing three guys to death. And keep in mind that Mark Giordano has only made it through two seasons injury-free, one of which was shortened by a lockout. Odds are pretty good he gets injured again.

 

[Lunatik]

I know it is likely just an oversight by the website, but Corey Potter is listed on the roster page on the Flames official site and is our only UFA that appears.

 

[Skobel24]

I know it is likely just an oversight by the website, but Corey Potter is listed on the roster page on the Flames official site and is our only UFA that appears.

Very rarely does a team roster remove a UFA until later on.

 

[Lunatik]

Very rarely does a team roster remove a UFA until later on.

Sure, but they have removed Schlemko

 

[Wayne Primeau]

Even fitness freaks lose a step or two with age, see Iggy. The thing that scares me about a long term deal with Gio, is that he really doesn't excel in any specific area of the game. What makes him so special is that he's incredibly well rounded, seemingly without holes in his game. Gio's all about balance, where as a guy like Iggy was a prolific scorer(still one the best one timers in the game) and power forward. When his legs and physical play started to fade he could still rely on sniping goals. I'd argue that because Gio's so balanced, losing a couple steps could have serious implications to his overall game and make him look extremely mediocre.

Iggy is still one of the best power forwards in the game (not that he has much competition). Really, he’s only worse than guys like Lucic, Kane, Simmonds, Ladd, Ovechkin, Hossa, Perry, Backes, and Getzlaf.

 

[Wayne Primeau]

Sure, but they have removed Schlemko

Oho maybe that means EVERYBODY’S FAVOURITE DEFENSEMAN IS BACK!

COREY POTTER, bae

:​

 

[Bouma Fett*]

Yer a wizard Corey

 

[Sparky93]

Iggy is still one of the best power forwards in the game (not that he has much competition). Really, he’s only worse than guys like Lucic, Kane, Simmonds, Ladd, Ovechkin, Hossa, Perry, Backes, and Getzlaf.

He's a shell of what he once was and Iggy making 8-9 million right now would be brutal!

 

[DFF]

He's a shell of what he once was and Iggy making 8-9 million right now would be brutal!

He didnt help the Flames winning much in his prime....why anyone would think he would be able to help them now

 

[slappipappi]

Iggy is still one of the best power forwards in the game (not that he has much competition). Really, he’s only worse than guys like Lucic, Kane, Simmonds, Ladd, Ovechkin, Hossa, Perry, Backes, and Getzlaf.

Iggy is not a power forward, and hasn't been for some years.

He's a perimeter player, and looks for one timers to score.

 

[Anglesmith]

He didnt help the Flames winning much in his prime....why anyone would think he would be able to help them now

That's a fallacy of the highest degree. Do you really think that follows logically?

I mean, it's like saying that Ray Bourque couldn't help the Bruins win in his prime, ergo there's no way he could help the Avs win.

 

[tmurfin]

Iffy hasn't been a Powerford for years. He's a pure sniper, that's it now, the power flashes have became more and more rare as the years have past.. Still a useful player who's guaranteed to pot at least 25, but definitely no power forward.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Iggy is not a power forward, and hasn't been for some years.

He's a perimeter player, and looks for one timers to score.

While I agree he doesn't play a power game anymore, when I watched him with Boston (haven't really seen Colorado much the past year) he was actually very active forechecking and getting toward the slot. Not a perimeter player at all like he was his last year or two in Calgary.