Fox is a pacer, but I really worry that Lindgren is going to be down 2 liters of blood and 8 teeth by game 70. Ryan Lindgren's game isn't designed on picking his spots, and that wear is cumulative.
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Fox is a pacer, but I really worry that Lindgren is going to be down 2 liters of blood and 8 teeth by game 70. Ryan Lindgren's game isn't designed on picking his spots, and that wear is cumulative.
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Devils announcing their Camp PTOs
(Vesey, Jankowski, Wotherspoon - wasn't he 'Prospect Park fave as a Junior player?)'
has me curious for NYR's Training Camp roster
per CF these are UFAs who played at least a little in NHL last
( team logos indicate NHL PTO try-out in-place, ironically 3 of 4 ex-NYR)
(Vesey, Jankowski, Wotherspoon - wasn't he 'Prospect Park fave as a Junior player?)'
has me curious for NYR's Training Camp roster
per CF these are UFAs who played at least a little in NHL last
( team logos indicate NHL PTO try-out in-place, ironically 3 of 4 ex-NYR)
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FWIW, I don't see any PTOs for the Rangers. There's enough internal depth and competition for spots.
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Sooooo creepy.Buch just posted a video of him skating on his IG story… still wearing Rangers stuff
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I agree there ain't much need, but w new HC and FO, you can't be sure...
Perhaps it would make more sense if you explain in what ways Miller is more physically gifted than Fox in the game of hockey.
I wasn't talking about him being a rookie.
People have been pushing an excuse for Miller that he hasn't been playing D very long.
All I asked is when that will no longer be a viable excuse. 1 year? 2 years?
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I don’t even have to explain, you’re just playing dumb if you think Fox is more physically talented than Miller.
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I'd take Staal just to try and flip him at the deadline to recoup some assets from 2016
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Miller had his struggles, and he had his flashes. But the thing that gets glossed over, is that even the most optimistic people thought that he would be, at best, in the AHL last season. I thought he'd still be in the NCAA at that point. Sky high upside, and he's literally pacing like 1.5 years ahead of realistic expectations.
He is much, much closer to developing to his ceiling now than he was on draft day. That's all we can ask for.
He is much, much closer to developing to his ceiling now than he was on draft day. That's all we can ask for.
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I know Gerard Gallant is on record as saying he doesn't like having rookies on his 4th line. And I tend to agree with that as a general rule. But, the Rangers forward depth is really impressive this year. The combo of players for that 4th line could end up making it quite productive and reliable. Which could mean that 4th line won't nec be a D and Dump line like it's been the last 3 seasons with the total lack of depth. They could actually cycle and possess with some combo of the below.
Here are just some names that could end up there:
Barron, Hunt, Blais, Kravtsov, Goodrow, Rooney, Reaves, Richards and Gauthier.
Now, I understand that many of these guys might be up on higher lines and likely should be. But there's some good depth there and several players are pretty good at board work/gaining possession. As such, if Barron ended up on a line with Hunt/Blais or Blais/Reaves or Hunt/Kravtsov or even Rooney/Blais -- those to me feel like a very formidable lines that could be quite effective against the isles, bruins, etc.
On top of that, you might not have a 3rd pairing D that gets caught in their own zone for shifts at a time. And if we end up having a truly useful 4th line that could really spread out the minutes and provide interesting depth and opportunity for a youngster that wasn't really there on the 4th line in past seasons. Just something to consider when hearing so-and-so is on the 4th line. It may not be a big deal.
Here are just some names that could end up there:
Barron, Hunt, Blais, Kravtsov, Goodrow, Rooney, Reaves, Richards and Gauthier.
Now, I understand that many of these guys might be up on higher lines and likely should be. But there's some good depth there and several players are pretty good at board work/gaining possession. As such, if Barron ended up on a line with Hunt/Blais or Blais/Reaves or Hunt/Kravtsov or even Rooney/Blais -- those to me feel like a very formidable lines that could be quite effective against the isles, bruins, etc.
On top of that, you might not have a 3rd pairing D that gets caught in their own zone for shifts at a time. And if we end up having a truly useful 4th line that could really spread out the minutes and provide interesting depth and opportunity for a youngster that wasn't really there on the 4th line in past seasons. Just something to consider when hearing so-and-so is on the 4th line. It may not be a big deal.
I have been saying this for a while now. This year Lundkvist is fine at 3rd pair RD.
Odds are, if Schneider doesn’t beat him out in camp this year, Schneider likely breaks into the league next season as 3rd pair RD.
In order to maximize Lundkvists talents here, he’s gonna need top 4 mins/spot in the very near future. Not too mention PP opportunities.
If they aren’t going to have that on the Right side for 3 seasons at a minimum, Nils is either switching to LD or will most likely be traded.
This season is fine with
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Nemeth-Lundkvist
Next year expect Schneider to be ready for full time Duty. Jones and Robertson aren’t far behind either. At most maybe a half / to a full season after Schneider is my guess
For Lundkvist to be a ranger long term, he’s going to have to displace 1 of Lindgren or Miller in 1.5-2 years. Otherwise, I’m willing to bet his future lies with a different team
Schneider’s timeline for RD is a little easier of a path. Full season in the A this year ( likely)
Next season 3 rd pair duty with NYR.
By the end of that year, he hopefully will start taking Troubas minutes away slowly on PK and 5v5. At that point Trouba only has 1 year left with the NMC turning into a MNTC.
Schneider has the Size/Nasty/ puck moving ability/ and perhaps more offense to replace what Trouba brings in the top 6. That’s why most think he’s the ideal candidate to replace him in the Top 4 playing behind fox for years to come.
It’s not Lundkvists fault that NYR has Fox and Jones who all have a similar physical build and style of play. I don’t see any version of a NYR D that’s going to have Fox-Lundkvist- Jones on it if Schneider-Robertson-Miller keep progressing and Fox-Lindgren pair is still Dynamite.
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Fox is the target so I'd be more worried about him losing teeth before Lindgren.
Lindgren is going to tasked with crazy expectations.
He's going to have to sit back and cover/defend against the best players in the league, add physicality plus guard the house.
Kids a gamer but if he pulls this off, you have your captain.
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I get the sense that the team is trying to, and has succeeded on paper at least, build a 4th line that will be made up of guys who understand their roles and play every game (or most). Something like what the Islanders have. That means that when players come out of the lineup it may be from the 2nd or 3rd line rather than just shuffling guys on and off the 4th line.
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I'd sign Eric Staal for league minimum yesterday. Never a bad thing to have insurance in case Chytil gets hurt (again). He probably would be able to learn a thing or two from Staal too.
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He would need to show a lot more defensively and a willingness to go to the dirty areas than he has so far. As it stands he will live or die with his offense. And that doesn’t bode well for him either.
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He actually moved the puck quite well. I think you're underselling him a bit here. He was quite competent early in his career prior to his injuries. Was he Fox or Deangelo? No, but he wasn't awkward by any stretch.
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He was very inconsistent this past season. To me, it's an open competition for a few spots this season. I do expect Miller to make the team from the outset, but if he starts off poorly and is outplayed then I don't see an issue with him starting the season in the AHL playing big minutes in all situations then getting the call back in season when a spot will certainly up (injuries, struggling player... etc). I don't think he has a spot guaranteed to him from the start, but he probably has a step up.
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