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Random thought but I would welcome back the Fox Puck Tracker. Caveats. Needs to be an option on a smart tv or web broadcast. And it has to be less intrusive. The original one was massive.
 
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Im comfortable giving Mika a longer deal if there's at the very least no nmc after year 3. Give Zib 3 years here, give him his long contract and have the ability to move him after that. I think that works for everyone and maybe we keep Zib but atleast we have the option, he gets paid, everyone is happy.
 
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EdJovanovski said:
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He’s starting to look like a man which of course means that AK/stat boy will stop following him
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mjolnir said:
I think it matters because of the insurance -- fusion is covered, not replacement. I just don't see Buffalo footing the bill just to trade him. As you can see, there aren't many (if any) teams willing to foot the bill either (especially when Buffalo is so secretive about JE's medical records).

I've wondered why JE hasn't offered to pay it himself if he's so confident it will work.
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Just something to think about. Insurance isnt just the cost of the surgery, but if the surgery goes wrong, and he did it without team approval, his contract could entirely be voided. It would be a fight with the PA obviously, but it would be a fight buffalo would legit go after and likely win. Theres no 100% guarantee the surgery goes well. Eichel likely could care less about the cost of the surgery, but his agents have likely advised him that the CBA makes clear the potential for him losing 50 million.
 
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KreiderBomb said:
All these moves we made imo were made more to deal with the Islanders than Tom Wilson, Wilson is just the scapegoat now.
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Yeah. The Islanders were the ones jamming it down our throats all year. Wilson was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Those days are over... this team will be hard to play against with some serious jam at the very minimum. If the kids take the next step... this team will be deadly.
 
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IDvsEGO said:
Just something to think about. Insurance isnt just the cost of the surgery, but if the surgery goes wrong, and he did it without team approval, his contract could entirely be voided. It would be a fight with the PA obviously, but it would be a fight buffalo would legit go after and likely win. Theres no 100% guarantee the surgery goes well. Eichel likely could care less about the cost of the surgery, but his agents have likely advised him that the CBA makes clear the potential for him losing 50 million.
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Thanks for explaining this a lot better than I ever could. I knew there were a more elements besides the insurance.
 
Bluto said:
Yeah. The Islanders were the ones jamming it down our throats all year. Wilson was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Those days are over... this team will be hard to play against with some serious jam at the very minimum. If the kids take the next step... this team will be deadly.
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More importantly the kids can play with more freedom knowing someone has their back, people dismiss that but its a tangible thing that changes a players abilities.
 
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More importantly the kids can play with more freedom knowing someone has their back, people dismiss that but its a tangible thing that changes a players abilities.
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Yeah that will play a huge part. Also, lets not forget Goodrow is actually good at faceoffs. I remember when Zenon Kenopka almost stole a series from us a series on faceoffs alone. We are walking into next year with an improved roster across the board. Someone has to take Buch's place... but it's entirely feasible with the cast we have. I think Kakko is more than up to the task on the PK/Def end and then offensively, it'll be a group effort.
The defense should be better as well with everyone having a full offseason to regroup. I expect a better year from Trouba, KAM will improve, Fox is a monster, Lindgren is solid. Really Lundqvist just needs to come in and play smart hockey on the third pair and we'll be solid.
I think this is a playoff team. The kind that does damage in the post season. The kind you don't want to play against. We might not win the cup, but whoever plays us will be so beat down that neither will they.
 
Bluto said:
Yeah that will play a huge part. Also, lets not forget Goodrow is actually good at faceoffs. I remember when Zenon Kenopka almost stole a series from us a series on faceoffs alone. We are walking into next year with an improved roster across the board. Someone has to take Buch's place... but it's entirely feasible with the cast we have. I think Kakko is more than up to the task on the PK/Def end and then offensively, it'll be a group effort.
The defense should be better as well with everyone having a full offseason to regroup. I expect a better year from Trouba, KAM will improve, Fox is a monster, Lindgren is solid. Really Lundqvist just needs to come in and play smart hockey on the third pair and we'll be solid.
I think this is a playoff team. The kind that does damage in the post season. The kind you don't want to play against. We might not win the cup, but whoever plays us will be so beat down that neither will they.
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I’ll be satisfied with simply sticking up for each other and not getting ragdolled by every team not called Flyers.
 
IDvsEGO said:
Just something to think about. Insurance isnt just the cost of the surgery, but if the surgery goes wrong, and he did it without team approval, his contract could entirely be voided. It would be a fight with the PA obviously, but it would be a fight buffalo would legit go after and likely win. Theres no 100% guarantee the surgery goes well. Eichel likely could care less about the cost of the surgery, but his agents have likely advised him that the CBA makes clear the potential for him losing 50 million.
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The other side of the coin is if the surgery doesn't go wrong, which is the more likely scenario I would think. There could be repercussions down the line, but the short term prognosis would likely be success. In that event, Buffalo isn't going to void his contract and let him become a UFA. Eichel may or may not get 10 mil per year on a new contract, but the overall amount could exceed 50 mil depending on the term. The problem there is that there are a limited number of teams that have enough cap space to actually give him a contract like that at this point. He could opt to sign a short term deal and then look for a long term deal next year.

All of that said though, if Eichel hasn't gotten the replacement surgery by now, it isn't happening unless the team agrees to it. If he wanted to do it regardless and take the risk, he would have done it already.
 
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SA16 said:


NHL - can’t move a player from wing to center. Way too difficult.

NFL - can take a player who had never played football in his life, start him, and watch him turn into a player worth 60M
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I mean with all due respect...that position in football is more about athleticism, size and strength than it is about developing a skill like, for example, ice skating, skating backwards, etc
 
Bluto said:
Yeah that will play a huge part. Also, lets not forget Goodrow is actually good at faceoffs. I remember when Zenon Kenopka almost stole a series from us a series on faceoffs alone. We are walking into next year with an improved roster across the board. Someone has to take Buch's place... but it's entirely feasible with the cast we have. I think Kakko is more than up to the task on the PK/Def end and then offensively, it'll be a group effort.
The defense should be better as well with everyone having a full offseason to regroup. I expect a better year from Trouba, KAM will improve, Fox is a monster, Lindgren is solid. Really Lundqvist just needs to come in and play smart hockey on the third pair and we'll be solid.
I think this is a playoff team. The kind that does damage in the post season. The kind you don't want to play against. We might not win the cup, but whoever plays us will be so beat down that neither will they.
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This is all accurate. And there’s a lot to be excited about. The final product still could be better with some tinkering, but It looks like Drury/Gallant are content to wait to see how the Chytil/Strome situation works itself out.
The only thing I would want done is to move Georgiev. A lot of our success is going to be relying on how well shesty plays. I would really like a back up tender who solid. When called upon he needs to give shesty a break and put up a consistent effort and at least give the team a chance to win.
Georgi was too inconsistent, and had far more stinkers then years past. He also costs more then your average back up. There is still a market for him and I would explore it. But he does have success against teams like the isles in division as well. I just think we can get a better player for a cheaper cost.
But overall this team is much better then last seasons. Our kids are a year more mature and hopefully better. Our 3rd D pair has been massively upgraded, as for the 3rd/4th lines, and theres more toughness injected in the overall line up. We also have some interesting prospects that are close to, or ready to make the jump to the nhl if needed later in the year.. there’s a lot to like.
Most excited to see our overall team effort increased every game and the fact we are vastly improved at the dot as well.
 
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Larry always leaves the actual small nugget of new info at the very end of the article. In this case, that Lundkvist will get a shot at 'running' the second PP unit.

Based on the footage from Sweden, however, he seems much more of a fit in the triggerman position on the left side half boards than he does as the actual man up top. I wonder if they put both Trouba and Nils on PP2.
 
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Inferno said:
I mean with all due respect...that position in football is more about athleticism, size and strength than it is about developing a skill like, for example, ice skating, skating backwards, etc
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So you’re saying it’s easier to teach a person an entirely new sport than just teaching someone new positioning? And that position isn’t all size and strength it is a lot of technique and recognition. There’s a reason not all 6’7 300 lb guys aren’t exactly ad good and many aren’t good at all.

Also, all NHL players already know how to skate. I obviously agree it would be near impossible to bring a player to the NHL who has never skated in his life before.
 
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SA16 said:
So you’re saying it’s easier to teach a person an entirely new sport than just teaching someone new positioning? And that position isn’t all size and strength it is a lot of technique and recognition. There’s a reason not all 6’7 300 lb guys aren’t exactly ad good and many aren’t good at all.

Also, all NHL players already know how to skate. I obviously agree it would be near impossible to bring a player to the NHL who has never skated in his life before.
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No I'm saying teaching someone to be a lineman from nothibg isn't as impressive as teaching someone to skate or learn a skill like that.

Ie .I don't think the comparison made earlier makes sense to me.
 
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