Speculation: Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXIII

[Amazing Kreiderman]

This is true.

Apologies to The other dude.

Your point still stands though. Hertl isn't a finesse player.

 

[brakeyawself]

Gotta learn who to block.

Until you're practically all alone in a bubble bath. So comfy.

 

[Fitzy]

Hertl isn't a finesse forward.

He's a better player than Landeskog.

Known perimeter player Johan Franzen should have been the nail in the coffin of this stereotype.

 

[brakeyawself]

If you are not following guys like Aaron Portzline, Michael Russo, Sean McIndoe and many others, you don't really know what is going on.

So they've cornered the market on insight? Good to know.

 

[NYR94]

Did Hertl have the 4 goal game against NYR in 2013?

 

[Tob]

So the Eichel emoji was on August 19th. Friedman said the meeting between Sabres, Eichel's agents, NHLPA was on the 18th. His agent is fired a week later. Eichel must have been pushing for something tangible and substantial in that NHLPA meeting that Friedman said went nowhere. Seems like he's serious about this disc replacement surgery and it may not just be posturing against the Sabres. Safe to say that meeting was the final attempt at moving forward between team and player. Jack will most likely sit at home until he's traded at the Sabres' leisure. They have him signed for the long haul. They have control of his medical decisions. This late into the off season with Eichel still needing months and months to heal, I doubt any team will make a move for a player that won't help them make the playoffs unless it's Vegas. This might end up being a January acquisition to sneak Eichel back in at the playoffs if the surgery takes 3-4 months of recovery.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Did Hertl have the 4 goal game against NYR in 2013?

Also known as Martin Biron retirement night

 

[brakeyawself]

So according to your post if Chytl can't handle 2C duties he is gone by next year? So he has no value besides a 2C? Not a big fan of his and not high on him like some here are but assuming he does fail he probably would have little value to someone else. The other possibility is he could fair better at a wing position.

If he doesn't end up at center, which I think he will and be fine there, he's probably a top 6 winger. As the roster is for now and seemingly into the future, I am not sure there is room for him. If one of our 3 young wingers fail though, it would be good to have him. Right now, obviously he's not taking Panarin's spot until at least 2026 if we don't extend Pan, but he's not overtaking Laf or Kakko until they've had years to fail, if they fail, hopefully not. And I doubt the situation with Kravtsov is much different. And then he'll have Othmann and who knows how many more future drafted wingers to contend with. As much progress as he's made on defense, at center at least, I am not sure he would work out as a 3rd line winger. Maybe, but I just think he will get to the point where he deserves top 6 time. I do think it's most likely, if he has a long term future with the Rangers, it's at center. If he does end up not quite suited to the top 6, then that could change. But at 21, I think he's made a lot of progress all ready and we are starting to see that higher capability. Per ATOI, he was our most complete center last season. I'm really not sure where to cap his plausible ceiling, but at this point, with top 6 minutes, I think his floor would be somewhere around 60 points. On a third line, 40-50 maybe. Rough estimates. Without PP1 time. So mostly PP2 time, which I think will be used under Gallant way more than it was under Quinn. But I am pretty high on him still.

 

[will1066]

Did Hetl have the 4 goal game against NYR in 2013?

Yes, as a rookie, in AV's third game as HC and Biron's last.

 

[Tob]

Yes, as a rookie, in AV's third game as HC and Biron's last.

Biron played 1 more against Anaheim. Stop with the lies. Also, what happened to my waiving thread? I was hoping for a read when I woke up.

 

[Hire Sather]

Did Hertl have the 4 goal game against NYR in 2013?

The night everyone wanted AV gone and had already declared him a failure here

We went on to be probably the best team in hockey for the next 2 years

 

[Tob]

The night everyone wanted AV gone and had already declared him a failure here

We went on to be probably the best team in hockey for the next 2 years

I miss the good old days when our team would actually improve from learning a system and getting settled in rather than the tire fire of never figuring anything out under Quinn for 3 years.

 

[will1066]

Biron played 1 more against Anaheim. Stop with the lies. Also, what happened to my waiving thread? I was hoping for a read when I woke up.

The mods snuffed it out. Maybe I should've used OT instead of Waived in the thread title Lol

 

[Levitate]

Yes, as a rookie, in AV's third game as HC and Biron's last.

ugh what a wild ride that season was. they looked absolutely terrible for like the first 15 games or something, just horrible, then suddenly everything clicked and they went wild and got to the finals (though the route to the finals was pretty tough)
then the next season, they started terrible and looked awful...then won the Presidents trophy and went to the ECF
then the next season, they started terrible and looked awful and...well, it was downhill from there

 

[Levitate]

I miss the good old days when our team would actually improve from learning a system and getting settled in rather than the tire fire of never figuring anything out under Quinn for 3 years.

to be honest I'm not really sure the Rangers totally figured things out under AV either as every season they looked like they had no idea what they were about at the start of the season

 

[aufheben]

Well, if one of those reasons is that they've mastered "clickbait" like few Youtubers could possibly fathom, then I would agree.

And they also post articles that should be HFboard thread rants.

But otherwise, sure.

Dude “clickbait” as a concept is like hundreds of years old.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

to be honest I'm not really sure the Rangers totally figured things out under AV either as every season they looked like they had no idea what they were about at the start of the season

2015-16 being the exception but yeah, every other season they were slow to start

 

[will1066]

ugh what a wild ride that season was. they looked absolutely terrible for like the first 15 games or something, just horrible, then suddenly everything clicked and they went wild and got to the finals (though the route to the finals was pretty tough)
then the next season, they started terrible and looked awful...then won the Presidents trophy and went to the ECF
then the next season, they started terrible and looked awful and...well, it was downhill from there

They started the season on an extended California swing and road trip that year too because MSG was finishing up renovations. Those first 15 games, they were still getting their bearings and living day to day on the road.

 

[will1066]

to be honest I'm not really sure the Rangers totally figured things out under AV either as every season they looked like they had no idea what they were about at the start of the season

Plus their system was a loose term.

 

[rangers1314]

 

[will1066]

Forever linked to the Nash trade.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

2015-16 being the exception but yeah, every other season they were slow to start

Even that year.

Hank was on another planet for the first half of that season. Him falling off as late as he did is the only reason why they got into the playoffs. That team sucked balls.

 

[Kords]

Too funny not to share



Drury asleep at the wheel. Could of had a plus dman, smh.

 

[Levitate]

Plus their system was a loose term.

Yes, I honestly think AV's system is not particularly easy for players to play. It seems like it relies on everyone getting everything just right and things "clicking" together. When it does, it can be magical, but when it doesn't it looks like no one knows what is happening on the ice

 

[NYR94]

I heard the Blues could be interested in Chara, not sure if he wants to play another year or where.