Soshnikov vs. Abbruezze
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Well, if the new guy plays 17 games and gets a goal and an assist, statistically he will have matched what the old guy did in the NHL for the post-trade balance of his career.
One is named Nikita and the other is named Nick. Presumably, they would both answer to "Nik" and neither will take any more or less energy to give them shit or praise them.
Abruzzese and Soshnikov are both nine-letter words.
Abruzzese is an inch shorter ànd 11 pounds lighter.
Abruzzese is five years and seven months younger, and has two years of an Ivy league education.
The trade was made four years and one month ago, so having waited four years the Leafs get a player coming in who is one year and six months younger than Soshnikov was when left.
The trade was made by Lou and the draft pick was made Kyle, so that's kind of a draw if you would care to pre-judge the transaction based on whether you're a Lou-guy or a Kyle-guy, or neither or both
(whew. I can't take more of the Lou-Kyle fan-boy wars!).
Other than that, I didn't watch the US at the World Juniors, so I've never seen him play and wouldn't have a clue how to compare them.
As a last resort, I guess I'll just have to watch him play before making any meaningful comparisons and drawing many conclusions.
The book on him opens tonight.
However, IMO the 2018 trade of Soshnikov for a 2019 fourth is already a success just because the new guy here and will play at least one NHL game. The rest is all gravy.
So long, Nikita Soshnikov!
Hello, Nick Abruzzese!
One is named Nikita and the other is named Nick. Presumably, they would both answer to "Nik" and neither will take any more or less energy to give them shit or praise them.
Abruzzese and Soshnikov are both nine-letter words.
Abruzzese is an inch shorter ànd 11 pounds lighter.
Abruzzese is five years and seven months younger, and has two years of an Ivy league education.
The trade was made four years and one month ago, so having waited four years the Leafs get a player coming in who is one year and six months younger than Soshnikov was when left.
The trade was made by Lou and the draft pick was made Kyle, so that's kind of a draw if you would care to pre-judge the transaction based on whether you're a Lou-guy or a Kyle-guy, or neither or both
(whew. I can't take more of the Lou-Kyle fan-boy wars!).Other than that, I didn't watch the US at the World Juniors, so I've never seen him play and wouldn't have a clue how to compare them.
As a last resort, I guess I'll just have to watch him play before making any meaningful comparisons and drawing many conclusions.
The book on him opens tonight.
However, IMO the 2018 trade of Soshnikov for a 2019 fourth is already a success just because the new guy here and will play at least one NHL game. The rest is all gravy.
So long, Nikita Soshnikov!
Hello, Nick Abruzzese!
Not comparable to each other.
Abbruzzese is all skill. Has really good hands, vision, and is a great contributor on the pp. Big question mark is whether he can handle physical contact. ECAC conference allows for forwards to have too much space. His straight line skating speed is average to above average.
Soshnikov is a bottom six player (fourth liner). Much higher floor than abbruzzese. Not enough skill to play in top six so his ceiling was limited. He was very tenacious. It’s unfortunate he got injured. He probably could have played a few more years in the nhl.
Abbruzzese is all skill. Has really good hands, vision, and is a great contributor on the pp. Big question mark is whether he can handle physical contact. ECAC conference allows for forwards to have too much space. His straight line skating speed is average to above average.
Soshnikov is a bottom six player (fourth liner). Much higher floor than abbruzzese. Not enough skill to play in top six so his ceiling was limited. He was very tenacious. It’s unfortunate he got injured. He probably could have played a few more years in the nhl.
It's Abruzesse to say with hindsight that the Leafs won the trade now that the other guy is Soshnikov an NHL roster.
....I'll show myself out.
....I'll show myself out.
kerk
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probably a good comparison. i think abbruzzese's offensive upside is higher if he can reach it, though.
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Soshnikov would be an NHL regular and fan favourite if Chara wasn't such a psychopath.
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Small detail, but Abruzzese has three years of an Ivy League education. The Harvard hockey was canceled for 2020-21 but not the academic program. (Though none of us knows how many actual courses he took.)
Don't like that he stands still defending in his own zone. Small guys should always try and be like Marner and keep their feet moving. Otherwise it's 4v5.
He will get scratched for our next game
He will get scratched for our next game
riffle
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Be stunning if he doesn't get scratched for the next 2.
That kid looked like he doesn't think he belongs and probably wants a do-over on the Harvard vs. turning pro thing.
Some guys will just walk in and own the place and others may never feel comfortable and anywhere in between. Curious to see if they jettison the idea of playing him altogether until next season. Feels like the Leafs aren't big on long auditions. Show them something or they'll show you the press box, A, or the door. I do think they are fascinated with him but have to feel discouraged with how he looked tonight. Just far from ready to go.
Watching his College highlights, nothing really stood out for him.
He isn't NHL ready right now, he will need to spend 2 more years on the Marlies, thereafter, it will be up to him to display his NHL readiness.
Knies on the other hand, I have higher expectations for him. I think Knies will come out guns blazing in his debut and will stay on the line-up come playoff time.
He isn't NHL ready right now, he will need to spend 2 more years on the Marlies, thereafter, it will be up to him to display his NHL readiness.
Knies on the other hand, I have higher expectations for him. I think Knies will come out guns blazing in his debut and will stay on the line-up come playoff time.
Soshnikov was a really good player. His body just couldn't hold up to the intensity with which he played the game. By the time he was traded, he was a shell of himself.
Cool fact that the pick we received yielded Abbruezze, though.
Cool fact that the pick we received yielded Abbruezze, though.
Soshnikov, foof, that kid won me over the second he took the ice. Him scoring I believe his first goal, and jumping into the boards and glass and screaming something, was something I I will never forget.
Kid could play, he had NHL skills to be sure.
We received far too little of his presence. Sad story, hope he is well.
I don't understand why anyone would tank their final year of Harvard, guess the allure of the instant million plus had its say in the ELC.
With all due respect to Abruski, I am patiently waiting for Knies.
Is he playing today? For Minnesota?
Kid could play, he had NHL skills to be sure.
We received far too little of his presence. Sad story, hope he is well.
I don't understand why anyone would tank their final year of Harvard, guess the allure of the instant million plus had its say in the ELC.
With all due respect to Abruski, I am patiently waiting for Knies.
Is he playing today? For Minnesota?
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Sounds like his careers all but over. It was a good 9-minute run!
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Sosh played the game bigger than his body could handle, and he didn't have the durability to sustain it without getting hurt.
He had a laser of a shot though and nice hands, but lacked the IQ to play in the top 6. Loved his tenacity but moving on from him was a good call.
Getting a pick that's turned into a potential NHLer in Abruzzese was the right move.
He had a laser of a shot though and nice hands, but lacked the IQ to play in the top 6. Loved his tenacity but moving on from him was a good call.
Getting a pick that's turned into a potential NHLer in Abruzzese was the right move.
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riffle
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I just meant to say that he doesn't look ready.His interviews make me feel uncomfortable because I'm picking up on his uneasiness.
Keefe had kind nurturing words for him last night in his post-gamer. I hope he gets acclimated sooner rather than later.
EDIT: I'm high on him, but I have greatly tempered my expectations given how uncomfortable he looks and sounds. I think it is more realistic to think he might be something down the road than right now but nobody knows how quickly he can get over his nerves. Maybe, it's the next time he laces them up, or it might not be for quite some time. Who knows?
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Yeah. I hear you. It feels hard to really extrapolate anything from that game for him. Robertson didn’t look much different on the 4th either. It seems like a tough slot for a young guy to come in and fill.
His interviews make me feel uncomfortable because I'm picking up on his uneasiness.
Keefe had kind nurturing words for him last night in his post-gamer. I hope he gets acclimated sooner rather than later.
EDIT: I'm high on him, but I have greatly tempered my expectations given how uncomfortable he looks and sounds. I think it is more realistic to think he might be something down the road than right now but nobody knows how quickly he can get over his nerves. Maybe, it's the next time he laces them up, or it might not be for quite some time. Who knows?
