Soft Playoff Teams, does not exist, or do they??

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RangersFan1994

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What would be the softest team to do anything in the playoffs?
Based on finesse style of their team. Even those Red Wings teams had grit, same with those Penguins teams, those Hawks team had that too..


Rangers within the whole organization NHL, AHL and their prospect pool needs to improve their grit and aggressive style of play via their personal and mentality..
 
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Dude the team is a bunch of kids. Wait until Lafreniere and Kakko are in their primes.
I understand that. Hopefully they will have some fire and pushback. Regardless of youth or not, they are hockey players. They need to be physically engaged. Why play hockey if you’re gonna just rely on skill and not battle physically. Rangers not a physical team is a big issue here. But fans are fine with just finesse. Those are non playoff teams that rely on just finesse. Sadly it took the Wilson incident for the whole organization to realize that. Every team has physical type of players with skill. Not the Zac Rinaldo Tanner Glass types but skilled guys willing to play that way to help the team. Can’t dangle much in the playoff, AV teams don’t last because they’re a regular season type of team rely mainly on skill..
 
The biggest improvement we needed to make is behind the bench and we're doing that.

So with the same personal we would get the same result in my opinion, they would not add grit to their game because it is asked of the coach. They either have it or don’t.. This team would get abused in any playoffs even at the AHL level right now no matter who is coaching.
 
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So with the same personal we would get the same result in my opinion, they would not add grit to their game because it is asked of the coach. They either have it or don’t.. This team would get abused in any playoffs even at the AHL level right now no matter who is coaching.

The idea that you either have this intrinsic thing or you don't is some comic book shit. You can absolutely get guys to buy into playing more physical. Tampa got swept because they were mentally soft and they all needed to do was add a couple of guys. Everyone else got on board.

Also, it's more so about the system. Quinn's tactics were east-west grabbyass AV hockey. I don't care how much he screamed about playing north-south, HE didn't do it, and that's probably why the vets tuned him out.

Might have to take a break from HF if every other post is grit this and grit that.
Hang in there, buddy!
 
The idea that you either have this intrinsic thing or you don't is some comic book shit. You can absolutely get guys to buy into playing more physical. Tampa got swept because they were mentally soft and they all needed to do was add a couple of guys. Everyone else got on board.

Also, it's more so about the system. Quinn's tactics were east-west grabbyass AV hockey. I don't care how much he screamed about playing north-south, HE didn't do it, and that's probably why the vets tuned him out.


Hang in there, buddy!


I’m sorry but it should not take a few players to get that type of game in your DNA. If it that is what it takes, then they should be figure skating or pick a profession that they wont get abused physically, this is hockey. Not finesse school.
 
They definitely lack a swagger and personality that the big teams have. They are a little too Toronto in my opinion. On the plus side, I think a few clever additions along with an experienced head coach could go a long way like it did for TB. I think the young guys would get on board and hopefully the NYR can build a mentality similar to a team like Boston. The talent should be there, they just need to incubate it properly.
 
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I feel like this general "toughness" thing has permeated like every single thread lately. Whether it's the front office building a tougher team, a coach coaching a tougher team, acquiring tougher players as a general concept, discussion of whether players we already have are tough enough, etc.

I know I can pick which threads I choose to read by my god, this is getting f***ing old.
 
They definitely lack a swagger and personality that the big teams have. They are a little too Toronto in my opinion. On the plus side, I think a few clever additions along with an experienced head coach could go a long way like it did for TB. I think the young guys would get on board and hopefully the NYR can build a mentality similar to a team like Boston. The talent should be there, they just need to incubate it properly.


Agreed with everything. One reason I was hoping for Wayne Simmonds this past summer or that type of player, despite the rival player, he was always a great teammate with great leadership to his players on his team.. People been waiting for the Rangers to name a captain, they know something we also know.. No leadership here or not much emotion from the leaders here. Would any of them stick up for their teammates, leaders have to do this in my opinion, even Malkin and Crosby does this despite his antics, Ovechkin does, Landeskog, Nathan MacKinnon does. Kreider and that is it from the vets of this team, Smith who knows if he will be back or not. One of the few that willing to do this. Sadly the vets and leadership group should be ashamed of themselves. Mika got elbowed and he did not do anything not even to defend himself. And people wanted him captain :sarcasm:.
 
The Rangers lack an edge that will come with experience, and adding a few vets who play with that aggressive mentality.

The embarrassing Wilson incident could also serve as a wake up call to the players, similar to the Gaborik-Carcillo situation before the Rangers became a powerhouse
 
Might have to take a break from HF if every other post is grit this and grit that.

I play Final Fantasy XIV on and off. The tank stance for dark knights is called grit, but the tank stance for paladins is called iron will. Hence forth, I will refer to this team as needing to have an iron will!
 
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The organization sees there’s a problem and they’re trying to address it. Let’s see what they do this summer now that they have some cap space to make improvements.

Also, remember that the team is young. Just look at Kakko. He went from looking lost to playing a 2 way game and dominating along the boards and in possession, and he started producing towards the end of the season.

I also think making a coaching change was a good decision. I think Quinn is an okay coach, but he clearly had a problem getting his guys ready to play.
 
There is no difference between the regular season and the playoffs. It is a myth. Powerplays go up in the playoffs so you can even argue skill is more important.
 
I feel like this general "toughness" thing has permeated like every single thread lately. Whether it's the front office building a tougher team, a coach coaching a tougher team, acquiring tougher players as a general concept, discussion of whether players we already have are tough enough, etc.

I know I can pick which threads I choose to read by my god, this is getting f***ing old.

Exposes the meatheads on the board.
 
Can we at least get through training camp before another lack of toughness complaint?
Drury will address it. There will be options out there.

Many quality names have already been mentioned in the roster building thread. Whether they’re fighters or not, there are good players available that play a heavier game.
 
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I feel like this general "toughness" thing has permeated like every single thread lately. Whether it's the front office building a tougher team, a coach coaching a tougher team, acquiring tougher players as a general concept, discussion of whether players we already have are tough enough, etc.

I know I can pick which threads I choose to read by my god, this is getting f***ing old.

well, we’ve spent almost two years reading about skill and how “this is a different league”. As if skill supersedes all and anything resembling physical play is voodoo.
 
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