Speculation: So what happens to Jake Allen?

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

So now that Jordan Binnington has won the cup ge is the automatic #1 next year and he should be.

But that beg the question what happens to Jake Allen? Is he traded? Bought out? Are they going to have a 4.3 million dollar backup? I highly doubt it.

What do you do with Jake Allen?

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[nabby12]

Binnington-Husso tandem in St. Louis next year.

 

[nturn06]

Binnington will probably sign a huge contract and, after half season or so, Allen will probably regain the starting job...

 

[tsujimoto74]

Can't imagine teams will be lining up to trade for Allen. Terrible goalie, terrible contract. I'd think the Blues would most likely just ride it out. I could see them buying Allen out if they just want to be done with him, but they don't have a pressing need to clear cap space.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Can't imagine teams will be lining up to trade for Allen. Terrible goalie, terrible contract. I'd think the Blues would most likely just ride it out. I could see them buying Allen out if they just want to be done with him, but they don't have a pressing need to clear cap space.

But keeping a 4.3 million dollar backup makes no sense

 

[GhostfaceWu]

But keeping a 4.3 million dollar backup makes no sense

Exactly who wants to add a 4.3 million back up? Because if he's anyones number 1 they may as well forfeit the season immediately.

 

[Ivan13]

They gonna Ol' Yeller him

 

[tsujimoto74]

But keeping a 4.3 million dollar backup makes no sense

Makes a lot more sense than paying someone else to take him.

 

[Son of Petter]

Buyout or backup. Not many options w that contract.

 

[Fig]

I may stand alone, but I still like Allen. Allen/Rittich tandem isn't too bad.

Maybe something around Frolik? Blues shift the salary to forward from goalie and can juggle another trade to clear forward cap. If Blues can retain to 3-3.5 AAV, we kick in an appropriate asset.

Flames roll the dice on Allen and hope a change of scenery helps. Worst case scenario, he's no better than resigning 38 year old Mike Smith.

 

[Rafafouille]

If the Blues really want him out and are willing to retain 50%, I'm down for him with the Habs. Guessing he'd still come very cheap. He's a decent goalie, reminds me of Dubnyks career. Very good start of his career but has hit a rough patch. He's a 915 save percentage goalie all day every day.

 

[Dog]

They gonna Ol' Yeller him

Robidas Island him?

 

[Ivan13]

Robidas Island him?

He has the NHL equivalent of rabies, and no one wants to touch him. Only way to get rid of rabies is to bite the bullet. If they want him gone they'd probably need to bite the proverbial bullet and buy him out.

 

[CaliforniaBlues310]

I wouldn’t be upset if he was our backup next year. However, if he wants to start, I could see a swap with Ottawa for Anderson. Craig has one year left, and we can have Husso replace him after next season

 

[north49er]

Be careful.....

 

[torniojaws]

I guess the smart deal would be to trade him for a draft pick or two, to a team that needs a decent goalie ASAP.

Devils?

Flyers?

 

[danielpalfredsson]

It's Allen vs Husso or whoever else is next in line in their organization. The only reasons to buy out Allen is that they want to open room up for Husso, or they want short term cap space at the expense of longer term cap space.

They only save about 3 million over the course of the contract buying him out. Then they also have to pay another goalie 1 million as the backup. It's almost cap neutral. The benefit is that the money gets spread over 4 years and frees up a lot of short term cash at the expense of more money on the books in years 3 and 4 of the buyout. If they ride out his contract, there'd be 0 dollars on the books in years 3 and 4.

A trade with half salary retained might be a more viable middle ground. Whether another team would do that, I don't know. The free agent goalie market is not very strong. Allen at 2.175 x 2 isn't that great of an overpayment. He probably gets in the 1.5-2 type range as a UFA.

Ultimately, it won't hurt to have goaltending depth.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

keep that goalie tandem and itll still be under 10 mill a year for both combined

 

[Curufinwe]

I guess the smart deal would be to trade him for a draft pick or two, to a team that needs a decent goalie ASAP.

Devils?

Flyers?

I'll take Allen on the Flyers to back up Hart, but he'd be coming with a draft pick and getting nothing in return.

 

[Crosside]

I wouldn’t be upset if he was our backup next year. However, if he wants to start, I could see a swap with Ottawa for Anderson. Craig has one year left, and we can have Husso replace him after next season

Done deal

 

[yogintheaveragebears]

Eat em for two years... Binnington is a 25 yo rfa da feasts on these types of negotiations. Jake back up for two years with Binnington at a low cap hit still less than most teams goalie tandems

 

[bernmeister]

So now that Jordan Binnington has won the cup ge is the automatic #1 next year and he should be.

But that beg the question what happens to Jake Allen? Is he traded? Bought out? Are they going to have a 4.3 million dollar backup? I highly doubt it.

What do you do with Jake Allen?

But keeping a 4.3 million dollar backup makes no sense

Buyout or backup. Not many options w that contract.

congrats on the SC.
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I have said this before and despite allusions to something better which I have not seen, there is a thread the needle win win here.

overpriced for overpriced

Jake Allen G for Brendan Smith D/W
virtually identical contracts, cap

Creates space for Blues to add a reasonably priced back up, restructures their net situation. Adds emergency D or 4th line W depth, or send him to the A. Allen only has value if his game is at peak AND there is opening --- hard to move --- likely caused by injury to a starter somewhere, creating an emergency. Blues still need to get their backup in place, and can't keep Allen with the team and suddenly ship him off. So it's either eat him at the A, or get something for him.
Smith as a skater may be easier to unload, esp if you eat half of that 4.35.

Rangers ARE overloaded in G.
However, 2 big things.
First they can ship off Georgiev for swag = spot for Shesty, who may/may not be ready day 1. Even still, I take that chance. Hank is starter. Kid will be ready soon enuf.
Second, they have all world goalie coach Benoit Allaire. They max Allen's performance, upping his value, and wait for opportune time to move as per injury scenario, which happens every year, just can't say when, or if you have to wait extensively for it.

Rangers have emerging LD and excess vets need to go.
Allen not a fit for SLB

win win

 

[Yannickg]

Saint louis just need , to retain 1.3 mil or a roster player + a second round this year and a third next year to any team with cap space and who need a back up.
Similar to Steve Mason trade (winnipeg/Mtl)

 

[Snakepit]

I may stand alone, but I still like Allen. Allen/Rittich tandem isn't too bad.

Maybe something around Frolik? Blues shift the salary to forward from goalie and can juggle another trade to clear forward cap. If Blues can retain to 3-3.5 AAV, we kick in an appropriate asset.

Flames roll the dice on Allen and hope a change of scenery helps. Worst case scenario, he's no better than resigning 38 year old Mike Smith.

I was thinking the same thing but I think it only works of the Blues retain more than they're comfortable with. Would pretty much need to keep 50% and I can't imagine they'd want to retain more than 1 mil

 

[YP44]

I could see St. Louis keeping him for at least 1 more year. Definitely at least till Binnington is re-signed as they would lose all leverage if dealt before.

At the end of the 19-20 season when he has only 1 year left I could see a market for him but would not expect a big return if dealt.