Confirmed Trade: [SJS/DET] Jake Walman and 2024 2nd round pick for future considerations

[Pinkfloyd]

Are you thinking they hadn’t already offered him for free to everyone before the deal?

They hadn’t because they never put him on waivers. Even if he asked them all and got shot down, they should’ve waived him before paying to get rid of him. Regardless, it’s a negative whether he got rid of him for nothing or not. This was a mistake to not get something for him. Hell, a buyout at least lets you keep the pick and would’ve been cheap.

 

[centipede2233]

Yzerman has not done a good job. Hronek and wallman given away

 

[bleedgreen]

They hadn’t because they never put him on waivers. Even if he asked them all and got shot down, they should’ve waived him before paying to get rid of him. Regardless, it’s a negative whether he got rid of him for nothing or not. This was a mistake to not get something for him. Hell, a buyout at least lets you keep the pick and would’ve been cheap.

Cap space is the most valuable thing in the league. I think every gm in the league would choose giving up a second rounder over a buyout. Putting him on waivers is a ridiculous move mid summer. If someone wanted him for free they would just take him for free. Yzerman could win three cups in a row and people would still be tearing him down over crap like this.

They’re five pts out of a wild card spot with two games in hand on Philly and Boston. It’s December. They’ve been better every year under Yzerman and missed the playoffs on the last night by a point last year. This would be the first actual year of disappointment under the guy if they don’t make it. He’s come this far without a star and losing the lottery multiple times.

He’d still be hired by many teams tomorrow if he was free and they needed a gm. He inherited one of the worst situations in the cap era. A team with cap issues, with vets no one wanted on long term deals, no big prospects and no extra picks. Gimme a break. He’s doing the job.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Yzerman has not done a good job. Hronek and wallman given away

The Wings got ASP for Hronek, I think that's a good deal.

 

[oceanchild]

I don’t think they miss him, they made space for their younger guys that they needed - and if Walman was worth more why didn’t he bring more back? He was offered to the league and the only team interested was the only team taking on cap dumps. Good for them for finding value but I still don’t see the world ending fuss here, and I’m not a Detroit fan. Walman had struggled at times in Detroit, on and off the rink? Walman got suspended already this season on a team that needs him. Maybe we don’t all agree with the reason, but it’s also the player telling us the reason not the team. Maybe there’s more there?

Whenever you have to attach anything to move a player that tells you a lot about the players worth to the league. This isn’t the smoking gun the curiously fanatic anti-Yzerman crowd needs it to be. I don’t think anyone is really minding this trade aside from SJ fans and the aforementioned fanatics.

The reporting was the Yzerman did not make him available and that it was a targeted trade.

The problem with the Yzerplan is that they still don’t have an elite forward on the roster or in the system and have no realistic path to acquiring one. Losing a 28yo 2nd pair dman and a late 2nd round pick doesn’t make a difference.

Lots of good players come from the second round… elite forwards at times. Why give the second up?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Cap space is the most valuable thing in the league. I think every gm in the league would choose giving up a second rounder over a buyout. Putting him on waivers is a ridiculous move mid summer. If someone wanted him for free they would just take him for free. Yzerman could win three cups in a row and people would still be tearing him down over crap like this.

They’re five pts out of a wild card spot with two games in hand on Philly and Boston. It’s December. They’ve been better every year under Yzerman and missed the playoffs on the last night by a point last year. This would be the first actual year of disappointment under the guy if they don’t make it. He’s come this far without a star and losing the lottery multiple times.

He’d still be hired by many teams tomorrow if he was free and they needed a gm. He inherited one of the worst situations in the cap era. A team with cap issues, with vets no one wanted on long term deals, no big prospects and no extra picks. Gimme a break. He’s doing the job.

You can think that about every GM but it isn’t true. Getting value out of draft picks and elc’s is more important than the space. Putting him on waivers in the summer is a normal occurrence. Goodrow was claimed off waivers in the summer. It was clearly known the Sharks were open for business with waivers if it came to that but Yzerman jumped the gun. Yzerman’s job isn’t in jeopardy because of this deal but it is a clear negative. He’s the one that gave Walman the deal that needed to be cleared in the first place so regardless, he bears responsibility for it.

 

[Hodge]

The reporting was the Yzerman did not make him available and that it was a targeted trade.


Lots of good players come from the second round… elite forwards at times. Why give the second up?

Who’s the last elite forward to be drafted 53rd overall or lower? Kaprizov when the “Russian factor” was still a thing? It’s not a valuable pick at all.

 

[oceanchild]

Who’s the last elite forward to be drafted 53rd overall or lower? Kaprizov when the “Russian factor” was still a thing? It’s not a valuable pick at all.

Second round NHL draft picks<br>Points leaders

Second round NHL draft picks<br>Points leaders

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[ijuka]

Getting paid a 2nd round pick to take a #1 defenseman locked up for 2 years at 3.4mil AAV.

Not bad!

 

[Pavels Dog]

Still could’ve gotten rid of him for nothing but chose to pay a 2nd anyway. Either way, it’s a negative for Yzerman. How bad of one is debatable but pretty undeniable that it is one.

They paid a 2nd that they got for free in another trade. It's not amazing but it's also not terrible. Bottom line is they didn't want Walman on the team.

 

[Shark Finn]

If Red Wings fans are happy Walman is gone and Sharks fans are happy they have Walman, what's the problem?

 

[lilidk]

If Red Wings fans are happy Walman is gone and Sharks fans are happy they have Walman, what's the problem?

We are not happy he is gone, we have no idea what is wrong with him. My guess is both GM know the reason, but they are not telling us, so no reason to continue to speculate