Value of: Silovs

[Buresflyingelbow]

Wondering on what the value is on a 23 year old Goalie who has proven he handles pressure well in big moments like the World Championships and NHL playoffs.

Having a young cost controlled Goalie who can grow with a team on the rise should have some value.

NHL teams love taking chances on potential and the fact they can lock up a player on a decent contract due to lack of experience doesn’t hurt, it’s what Vancouver did with Demko and it looks like he’s the next one on the rise.

Curious what teams would offer as I see lots of teams interested in Goaltending this offseason.

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[rea]

Wondering on what the value is on a 23 year old Goalie who has proven he handles pressure well in big moments like the World Championships and NHL playoffs.

Having a young cost controlled Goalie who can grow with a team on the rise should have some value.

NHL teams love taking chances on potential and the fact they can lock up a player on a decent contract due to lack of experience doesn’t hurt, it’s what Vancouver did with Demko and it looks like he’s the next one on the rise.

Curious what teams would offer as I see lots of teams interested in Goaltending this offseason.

Don't think he's shown enough for anyone to take a risk of offering anything of value to vancouver. History is chalk full of short term success stories that ultimately disappeared just as quickly into obscurity.

Also given what you just described, it's all the more reason why Canucks would just hold onto a cheap cost controlled backup, which understands their system and has the trust of teammates if needed

 

[rypper]

Nothing that would make it worth Vancouver moving him.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

There's no reason Vancouver would do this right now. Next summer when they're able to sign Demko to an extension? Sure maybe. I'd personally hang onto him until 2026 or 2027 anyways until you get a situation like we see in Boston right now with Ullmark and Swayman, but that's just me.

I could see a team that really likes him offering two 2nd rounders. Likely not more than that IMO.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

A team would've had to have fallen in love with his playoff performance to offer something worthwhile.

Don't think his value is really much right now, 12ish games experience? Don't see a decent offer coming.

 

[MisterT]

This year Silovs starts as the back-up and if he continues to play at a level above league average, he'll get more ice time. As the Canucks have cap issues, a young cost-controlled back-up goalie is exactly what they need.

Like with other situations of this nature, the goal would be to eventually have him inherit the net, once he proves capable, so the pricier goalie can be traded for assets to address other areas of concern.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

One thing this organization has done right consistently for 20 odd years is draft, develop and target goaltending culminating with giving Ian Clark 100% automany in all goalie related decisions and Silovs and Tolipilo are his guys he's anointed as the future.
combined with the fact goalies time wise are a massive investment and Silovs little value as of now a trade seems unlikely.

I think with the way Demko's contract is and where Silovs and Tolipilo are age wise it's a perfect situation. Silovs backs up this year and next while pilo takes full reign in Abby and then once Demko is due a new deal they make a decision and at that point if one of Silovs or pilo or both have shown enough they can make their decision then.

The crazy thing is Tolipilo according to Clark has the highest ceiling and raw tools of any goalie he's worked with.
I think in 3 years he ends up as the starter and not Silovs

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Don't think he's shown enough for anyone to take a risk of offering anything of value to vancouver. History is chalk full of short term success stories that ultimately disappeared just as quickly into obscurity.

Also given what you just described, it's all the more reason why Canucks would just hold onto a cheap cost controlled backup, which understands their system and has the trust of teammates if needed

I don’t disagree but Schneider had a better team in front of him and I’d say Silovs has roughly a higher pedigree due to game pressure and how he’s tracking (if both assessed at the same age)

The world championships where Latvia placed 3rd for bronze is no small feat as well especially with the pressure of the home crowd.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

A team would've had to have fallen in love with his playoff performance to offer something worthwhile.

Don't think his value is really much right now, 12ish games experience? Don't see a decent offer coming.

My point exactly, how has a team not seen the potential as I feel he’s firmly in the top 3 goalie prospects in the world.

 

[BCNate]

Silovs has huge upside and potential, but I don't think he would have much value on the trade market. I'd be surprised if he returned more than a third round pick at this stage. Canucks won't deal him until they get a look at Tolopilo in the NHL and know what Demko's next deal will look like.

 

[StreetHawk]

The crazy thing is Tolipilo according to Clark has the highest ceiling and raw tools of any goalie he's worked with.
I think in 3 years he ends up as the starter and not Silovs

If Clark prefers Tolipilo then I can see Canucks moving Silovs. But, hard to say what other clubs think of him. He's not a starter yet. Should back up in 24/25. But, if you are a team with a bad track record of goalie development from A to NHL, best to get someone who is basically done their AHL time via trade. And rely on your NHL goalie coach to work with him.
Canucks drafted Aku Kosenkuo from Finland, but in 3 years since he played another year in Finland, 2 years at Harvard where he only got into like 1/2 games as a Freshman but into the teens as a Sophomore. That's not a lot in NCAA. See what he does this year.

Ty Young from PG is the other goalie prospect they have. He lost his starter job to a 2025 draft eligible kid. But, he's a long ways off.

Always important to have that pipeline in the event you suddenly need a guy to step up ala Silovs this PO. Not wait til you need a goalie to develop them.

 

[HockeyVirus]

More likely Vancouver keeps it's tradition of punting their star goalie as the backup takes over being cheaper and younger.

Demko would be moved if Silvos shows he is legit.

 

[mydnyte]

Wondering on what the value is on a 23 year old Goalie who has proven he handles pressure well in big moments like the World Championships and NHL playoffs.

Having a young cost controlled Goalie who can grow with a team on the rise should have some value.

NHL teams love taking chances on potential and the fact they can lock up a player on a decent contract due to lack of experience doesn’t hurt, it’s what Vancouver did with Demko and it looks like he’s the next one on the rise.

Curious what teams would offer as I see lots of teams interested in Goaltending this offseason.

his Value resides in Vancouver, unless Demko magically stops getting hurt.

 

[Djp]

Value has not changed thatn pre-playoffs

 

[The Nuge]

Value has not changed thatn pre-playoffs

It definitely has. He was the Canucks best player by far. It’s just too small of sample size for Vancouver to get the value you’d want based on how he played. It’s hard to imagine he was worth more than like a 5th before. Now it feels like more like a 3rd

 

[StreetHawk]

It definitely has. He was the Canucks best player by far. It’s just too small of sample size for Vancouver to get the value you’d want based on how he played. It’s hard to imagine he was worth more than like a 5th before. Now it feels like more like a 3rd

I would say, that you don't trade for him with the expectation that he becomes your #1 this season. He needs a season as a backup first. But, if you are a team looking down the line it makes sense to pull the trigger now, vs scrambling for one when you finally do need one, if you do not currently have a prospect you believe can be a #1 in the near future and your starter is aging or not good enough.

 

[Djp]

It definitely has. He was the Canucks best player by far. It’s just too small of sample size for Vancouver to get the value you’d want based on how he played. It’s hard to imagine he was worth more than like a 5th before. Now it feels like more like a 3rd

Game count not enough. There have been too many flash in pan goalies for anyone to put down anything.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

He and Demko will likely be the 1A and 1B for the Canucks starting next season.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

He has more value to Vancouver than he would to the rest of the league right now. They'd be offered a mid round pick for him at best. GM's don't usually fall for the small sample size even if it's in the playoffs.

 

[rea]

I don’t disagree but Schneider had a better team in front of him and I’d say Silovs has roughly a higher pedigree due to game pressure and how he’s tracking (if both assessed at the same age)

The world championships where Latvia placed 3rd for bronze is no small feat as well especially with the pressure of the home crowd.

No, higher pedigree would be Schneider. Without trying to be an asshole, maybe you meant something else, but I think you need to look up the term pedigree.

Also again with the championship, yea he did well, if was a tournament. These were sudden death games when it went into medal contention rounds and anything can happen.

I'm not trying to downplay his value to you, he could very well end up an amazing goalie, but being objective, these are all small windows, and no team will offer anything for a backup of more value than he would be for the canucks, because no team would try to trade for him to make him a starter.

 

[crazychimp]

He’s worth keeping for Vancouver to develop his game. I think based of the surgery Demko had he was overworked during the regular season which lead to his injury.

Personally I think more responsibility should be given to Silovs next season so you don’t overwork Demko maybe 70-30% or 60-40% starts and Silovs takes the other half.