Don't f*** this up Hughes. Iginla is our man. He's got the heart of a champion.This is very telling.
Iginla is definitely a Habs type pick with the character.
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Don't f*** this up Hughes. Iginla is our man. He's got the heart of a champion.This is very telling.
Iginla is definitely a Habs type pick with the character.
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Also it's not like the injury Lindstrom has is some life altering injury, It will heal and he'll be back to his regular self.They all have flaws that could cause them to end up disappointments, that's the nature of drafting 17 year olds. And yes it's extremely important that we get this pick right, meaning we get a great player even if not the absolute best pick in a re-draft 5 years from now.
One of the things I find somewhat ironic with regards to Lindstrom is when games played is brought up as a concern. Like sure 32 regular season isn't ideal, but you never seem # of games played brought up for Demidov with 30 MHL regular season games + 1 VHL and 4 KHL games. And just like Lindstrom has no international games either to raise/lower their stock.
Health is obviously a concern, but none of us our doctors with access to his medical files. If the team doctors review his files and say there's no concern you have to trust them, if they say there are some concern you also have to trust them and go with someone else.
It's the Fantilli effect. He does a lot of things at a high level so teams are afraid his offensive upside is limited compared to a prospect that displays a couple of elite skills and bases their game around that.
Had Lindstrom completed his 50 goals -100 pts season, he'd be out of reach.
Gallagher’s an interesting case. I’d say he was a first liner in the context of what he did. He went to the net and created havoc. He and Max did well when together but both could’ve used a center. And both were scoring in the mid 2010s and scoring was way down. But he was definitely not your typical first line player.Yes Kovalev could have been greater but i still take him in a top 6 before a guy like Gallagher. I take Gallagher only if my top 5 is elite level and i need some sandpaper. The weird thing with Kovalev is his stats in playoffs are better than regular season. Both his ppg and gpg are beter in playoffs.
In stats and toughness, sure. In terms of making the team win long term it’s a hard no. He’s been good but Ottawa has stunk while he’s been there and he was vocal about making it tough for the team to sign him.Yeah, I love Xhekaj, but for Tkachuk, it's a no-brainer.
Lil'Des at the #1C spot was a great injustice to the team. He tried his best and I'll never fault him for any of it. It was a Hockey Ops error in a very big way.Gallagher’s an interesting case. I’d say he was a first liner in the context of what he did. He went to the net and created havoc. He and Max did well when together but both could’ve used a center. And both were scoring in the mid 2010s and scoring was way down. But he was definitely not your typical first line player.
Desharnais never should’ve been anywhere near the first line.
You could get a top 6 power forward that's gonna score a crap ton of goals.
but what if you could get a mystery box instead? IT COULD LITERALLY BE ANYTHING
We need it long term. The priority is to pick up players who will move the needle long term picking up a couple of good forwards might get the habs to the playoffs faster but it won’t help them win series. They need top players at pretty much all positions. If s top C id available, great, but if it’s a top pairing LD vs a second line winger I’m voting LD.Laying it all on the goalie was a disaster waiting to happen, and it did...............
The teams that are left right now in the playoffs, have speed, skill, and some size....it's what is needed.
Also needed are guys who will go through a wall for each other, which is something the Habs are trying to build with some culture and character types.
6 footers, with some weight, 190-210 lbs are great but they have to have speed and skill to make it all work.
Our drafting has been so poor, especially at drafting forwards....we need skill and some size at the forward position, and we need this quickly as we move forward with the rebuild. The expectations are about to get a slight change in course, from the media and fans.
HuGo is on it, but we need to show progression and movement soon.
Don't f*** this up Hughes. Iginla is our man. He's got the heart of a champion.
When I think of Iginla, I think of a slightly better 6 foot Gallagher with a little better skating. Warrior, competitor, etc but no elite traits but can pop in 25-30 goals here and there. Sure Gally was a great complimentary top 6 in his prime but at #5 would that be our best pick, especially over some others? I’m not sure if I’m crazy to compare him to gally but that’s just what I envision.
Better skater than GallyWhen I think of Iginla, I think of a slightly better 6 foot Gallagher with a little better skating. Warrior, competitor, etc but no elite traits but can pop in 25-30 goals here and there. Sure Gally was a great complimentary top 6 in his prime but at #5 would that be our best pick, especially over some others? I’m not sure if I’m crazy to compare him to gally but that’s just what I envision.
This is very telling.
Iginla is definitely a Habs type pick with the character.
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Incorrect. Pavelski is undoubtedly under 6. Duchene almost certainly. Seguin as well. I know they're listed on NHL.com higher, but those are inflated.The only sub-six feet tall top six forwards still playing are Trochek and Stankoven. That’s 2 of 24. Sure we’ve had a skill issue up front but teams today are not winning Cups with half of their top six forwards under six feet.
Incorrect. Pavelski is undoubtedly under 6. Duchene almost certainly. Seguin as well. I know they're listed on NHL.com higher, but those are inflated.
Agreed. Height isn't the be all, end all. I'm just simply pointing out that people are basing arguments off false information.To unblock this "height" conversation, look at the difference in grit between these guys..
Johnston: 6'-1" and 185 lbs
Dadonov: 5'-11" and 189 lbs
Duchene: 5'-11" and 195 lbs
Pavelski: 5'-11" and 200 lbs
Height/Weight should be looked at. Not just height. Then look at how gritty they are. It's all about work ethic and if they have the height/weight to support that style of game.
Someone like Drouin is 6'-0" and 203 lbs but he just don't like the rough stuff.
Agreed. Height isn't the be all, end all. I'm just simply pointing out that people are basing arguments off false information.
There was a scout who had him 3rd when Bob Mackenzie did his NHL scouts survey that released a few weeks ago, most of them had him 7-10.I keep hearing that Helenius is being very under rated by many. Could he go top5?
He's the 2nd best Center in a draft where there is a lack of them in the top 15, I doubt he would go in the top 5 though.I keep hearing that Helenius is being very under rated by many. Could he go top5?
To unblock this "height" conversation, look at the difference in grit between these guys..
Johnston: 6'-1" and 185 lbs
Dadonov: 5'-11" and 189 lbs
Duchene: 5'-11" and 195 lbs
Pavelski: 5'-11" and 200 lbs
Height/Weight should be looked at. Not just height. Then look at how gritty they are. It's all about work ethic and if they have the height/weight to support that style of game.
Someone like Drouin is 6'-0" and 203 lbs but he just don't like the rough stuff.
This is very telling.
Iginla is definitely a Habs type pick with the character.
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