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Should we strongly consider Trading W. Nylander while his value is high?

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Should we strongly consider Trading W. Nylander while his value is high?

  • yes

    Votes: 130 61.0%

  • no

    Votes: 83 39.0%
  • Total voters
    213
RoadWarrior said:
Bingo.

Right now Kadri > Tavares on a much better contract. In that world the leafs can re-sign Hyman and strengthen the bottom six with a true 1A goaltender.

The Tavares signing and Kadri trades were a disaster. All because management didn't like Kadri cross checking the Bruins in the playoffs. Do you think the Bruins would have traded a player for being over aggressive in the playoffs? Not a chance.
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Let’s see what Kadri’s new deal will be next season. He’s a pending UFA.
 
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killer1980 said:
It's little wonder to me that so many of the ex-Leafs flourish with their new teams. Kadri, Hyman, Moore, Brown, even Colton and Barrie are doing better. Somehow, it seems to me that the coach and management team didn't get the best out of these guys. Dubas' ridiculous overpayment created a situation where he couldn't afford to a pay an elite 2nd tier or decent goalie. He has defended his core through 5 failures. Unfortunately, the way this team is structured, it has peaked and gone as far as it can go.
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I’m not gonna argue with this, infact I agree with most of it

Kadri: is a 2C, we played him like a 3C
Moore was unfortunate cuz whenever a spot would open up he’d get injured tok
Brown: he was a 20 goal guy, babs decided to make him a grinder
Barrie: played over his head here
Ceci: did the same


He needs to add a top 6 LW, ideally a 50-60 point player so that each of the top 2 lines are good

He also needs a starting goalie
 
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Jeypic said:
It wont be 11 million. I’m a fan of Dubas, but the Tavares signing was a mistake at that price especially since we already had Kadri. I have to agree with that one.
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Lol yea a career ppg go to guy at 28 years old
Vs a 10 year avg 50 point guy with 1 year ppg wanting a 7 year contact until hes 38
 
Jeypic said:
It wont be 11 million. I’m a fan of Dubas, but the Tavares signing was a mistake at that price especially since we already had Kadri. I have to agree with that one.
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Keep in mind Tavares’ actual salary drops to $7.95 next year for the last few years of his deal.

But that was always the risk with Tavares. They’ve gotten near PPG production for the first 4 years (including a monster 47 goal season). The next few years will be dicey.

Kadri replicating this season will be tough. Should be very interesting to see what his new deal is because it could be an ugly contract.
 
Shooter2x said:
Here's a thought.

You need a team with both a Nylander and Hyman.

The Nylander is the harder one to find.

Bunch of idiots trying to build this team I swear.
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It's no use for multi quote everyone bashing my comment... I clearly stated "mind set"....

.... Hymans.......... Mindset......

Is what will win you play off Games, when you attach Hymans mindset to a player with higher skill you get a more competitive team.... Digging in corner, playing through Injury, never quitting on plays (I understand 82 season is long.. but in the playoffs that mindset should always be on if you want to be successful in it) is what gets you out of the first round.

We don't have enough players with HYMANS.... MIND SET. I'm not surprised that you guys would jump to "oh trade Nylander for Hyman, that's this guys solution".... Come on.

I stated in my OP that I like Nylander... He is a PPG finesse player. We have enough scoring... Again scoring wasn't the issue in the play offs.... The other team always beats us in the first round because they play like the want it more CONSISTENTLY. A "Wanting it more" quality of play is what a player like Hyman and many other really good 3rd liners being to the table, it's when the stars buy into it too that gets you out of the first round! When we see Willy quitting on plays in the play offs is showing he isn't capable of bringing his team into the fight.



Again.... Mind set.
 
Yes it has to start with him (retool). Has a very good contract and would give us the best return I think. This is the Derozan move
 
You don't blow this up but everything should be on the table not named AM
Anf if there is a better coach out there....

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Dubas won't too loyal too attached too stubborn
 
Eh, I'm torn on trading Nylander. I love the guy as a hockey player. He has his warts but he's a damn good hockey player on a good contract (even accounting for warts). I think that the most important thing in team building is having a lot of really good hockey players, and Nylander certainly fits the bill. He's a good enough player to win with, considering he's our 5th or 6th most important player. Was our best player for the first few months of this year, that's the kind of talent that's worth holding onto and not changing just for the sake of change.

That said, I think Dubas has to be solemnly considering ending the big4 experiment. I loved every minute of it and believe in all four of these guys as good enough to win a cup with. But at some point after enough losses you gotta look around and make a serious decision on a shakeup. This team doesn't need big changes, but a new look and maybe trading some talent for depth would make the team better when it counts the most.

So yeah, I say strongly consider it. I think I'll be okay with whatever Dubas decides on this one, with all of my respect to Nylander as having been a really good Maple Leaf.
 
m1ker said:
The question is, if we do keep Nylander, whats our strategy in 2 years? How do we sign UFA Matthews and Nylander the same year, and then have enough money to match UFA offers on Marner the year after? Someone please answer this for me... Dubas is bluffing when he says hes rolling it back..
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The teams cap situation is always going to be changing; other roster players taking up space may not be here in two years. There's also serious speculation from analysts that.the league will be due for a significant cap raise in 2024, which fortunately for the Leafs given their UFAs that year.

Ultimately coming up with a couple mil for a raise really isn't that hard to do - if the team wants to keep him (and their other high profile guys)
 
Moving Nylander is a high risk/high reward scenario.

High risk in that he's proven his talent level and offensive ability which could make any trade a loss quickly.

But if done right, the rewards gotten from dealing him could be massive.

The Leafs' need a Duchene-like haul that Colorado got . I don't know if a 1 for 1 hockey trade works here.
 
BertCorbeau said:
Moving Nylander is a high risk/high reward scenario.

High risk in that he's proven his talent level and offensive ability which could make any trade a loss quickly.

But if done right, the rewards gotten from dealing him could be massive.

The Leafs' need a Duchene-like haul that Colorado got . I don't know if a 1 for 1 hockey trade works here.
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Scheifele 1 for 1 is something I'd do.
 
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A1LeafNation said:
In a 5-0 game when the objective is to get yourself ready and healthy for the next...sure.

I guess Campbell avoids contact too, he was pulled for the same reason.
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Hard to win with that mentality bleeding down into the rest of the team.

Need hard nosed, must-win mindset players.

Nylander is fantastic but he's a complementary guy. He would look fantastic on a more rugged team where his shortfalls aren't as glaring, IMO.

He would fetch a LOT in a trade too, given his contract and upside.
 
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