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News Article: Should the Panthers consider Matheson for Nylander?

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It's caught a bit of fire on the twitterverse after LeBrun discussed it on the radio yesterday then again on the Athletic today. Here are my thoughts on it if you want a full breakdown but figured the topic was worth it's own thread here.

 
I would not do this. Who takes his place?


Petrovic already looks over-exposed.

Yandle looks to be in the correct spot.

Pyskyk should be playing where Petrovic is at.
 
I honestly think its a smart trade for Toronto. They will hate it at first because all florida players not Barkov or huberdeau are trash... But having a young locked up pucking moving defenseman that skates like the wind is better than a player who won't be with you most likely. Bold move for Tallon. He wanted Nylander at that draft. If we didn't get #1 and Ekblad we would have drafted Nylander or Ehlers (going off memory that year). Tallon most likely would not really want to trade Matheson. HE obviously is a bit better then what he has been doing lately. Hypothetical here but if Toronto wanted this deal. I believe we take that deal. That gives us barkov, daddy, hoffman, huberdeau, nylander, bjugstad:), McCann, Malgin with some very nice prospects coming...

Thing is if we had drafted Ty Smith in the first round this trade would make the sting a bit less. Although it does leave a hole.. hello
JACOB MACDONALD


Also do we really play D outside of weegar and bogdan???

So f it ... accept trade see what happens :)
 
I think it's important to mention that we're aware that MM is not as valuable as Nylander. But this trade doesn't make sense for us. Also. Leafs need a RHD
 
Dreger already said that the Leafs want a Top4 D and a Top9 F for Nylander. So it would have to be Matheson plus one of Vatrano, Malgin or McCann.

Imo, this rumor is more about a GM (or someone in an org) getting an idea out there to get another GM to call.
 
Dreger already said that the Leafs want a Top4 D and a Top9 F for Nylander. So it would have to be Matheson plus one of Vatrano, Malgin or McCann.

Imo, this rumor is more about a GM (or someone in an org) getting an idea out there to get another GM to call.

OK... Petro and Malgin for Nylander and then flip Willie to ANA for Montour.
 
Yea I would.

Depending on the deal Nylander wants of course. I assume he's asking a lot since he still isn't signed.

Then maybe start shopping Tippett for another defenseman.
 
I get the whole "Florida's defense is already bad" point but the value in this trade to Florida is insane. You could move another winger and get a far better return than Matheson if the team got Nylander. This is an easy no from Toronto.

Yea I would.

Depending on the deal Nylander wants of course. I assume he's asking a lot since he still isn't signed.


8x8 is his ask, Toronto has apparently not gone above 6 million.
 
From the Panthers perspective, trading a top 4 D away makes no sense based on the way this squad is constructed. Yes, Nylander is an elite player, but goal scoring isn't a weakness for this team. They need defense just like Toronto.
 
Like I said in the other thread, it's hard to make the money work out with paying him big bucks now. We have Hoff and Dads who need to be reupped and the most pressing need next year in net needs to be paid for as well. We have plenty of forwards under controlled salary as well as Math long term at 4.5. I'd love to have Nylander in the top 6 but I think it hurts the team long term to do it.
 
They wont bring in Nylander and blow up the forward salary structure, there is only one 8 million dollar forward on this team, and he is playing for 5.9 at the moment.

Then again with the FLA taxes, he would not need to be that high to get his money.
 
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No thanks on Nylander and all the turmoil surrounding his contract demands. Make no mistake this drastically reduces his value. His ask is ridiculous and the fact he is holding out this far into the season is ridiculous. Trading for him doesn’t make our team
Better but it does destroy our cap

LOL and people bitched when Huby didn’t sign right until training camp. What would Brokin say about this guy if Huberdeau was a malcontent? I don’t want to be the Oilers so unless Tallon has another deal for a d-man in his pocket no thanks.
 
I really like Matheson but this is extraordinarily tempting. If we had even a modicum of depth on defense I'd bite on this without hesitation but man are we thin on the back end.
 
LOL and people *****ed when Huby didn’t sign right until training camp. What would Brokin say about this guy if Huberdeau was a malcontent? I don’t want to be the Oilers so unless Tallon has another deal for a d-man in his pocket no thanks.
Guys who quibble over 5% on a $35M contract and holdout want to make me puke. Most of these high school educated genius' couldn't get a job making $35K per year let alone spend all that money in their lifetimes if they have any financial sense. If you have a fair offer sitting in front of you, take it and get focused for the season. Don't sit around and grumble that you need to make as much as Barkov. It shows disloyalty and creates contention between players and management. :)
 
Guys who quibble over 5% on a $35M contract and holdout want to make me puke. Most of these high school educated genius' couldn't get a job making $35K per year let alone spend all that money in their lifetimes if they have any financial sense. If you have a fair offer sitting in front of you, take it and get focused for the season. Don't sit around and grumble that you need to make as much as Barkov. It shows disloyalty and creates contention between players and management. :)

However there are still plenty of mgmt groups that show no loyalty towards the players because after all it's a results driven business. I think that, like you expressed, Nylander is taking this mentality to the extreme especially considering that without hockey he'd be flipping burgers. All these types of players, like Hubs with his identical contract to that of Barkov, just shows how highly they think of themselves only to be screwed by themselves in the end i.e. pride comes before the fall. The Cats' brass, the Calculator specifically, tries to gauge how "painful" it is to deal with the players in order to slot them in their long term plans. Nylander is just showcasing his attitude that it's all about himself even though he was just abysmal when Matthews got hurt in the previous season. The Cats already have one such player in Ek who's more interested in posing than actually putting the effort in to make up for his contract expectations so the situation begs the question of how much dead weight a team can carry in terms of cap expenditure ...
 
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They wont bring in Nylander and blow up the forward salary structure, there is only one 8 million dollar forward on this team, and he is playing for 5.9 at the moment.

Then again with the FLA taxes, he would not need to be that high to get his money.
Barkov would make quite a bit more than 8M.
 
However there are still plenty of mgmt groups that show no loyalty towards the players because after all it's a results driven business. I think that, like you expressed, Nylander is taking this mentality to the extreme especially considering that without hockey he'd be flipping burgers. All these types of players, like Hubs with his identical contract to that of Barkov, just shows how highly they think of themselves only to be screwed by themselves in the end i.e. pride comes before the fall. The Cats' brass, the Calculator specifically, tries to gauge how "painful" it is to deal with the players in order to slot them in their long term plans. Nylander is just showcasing his attitude that it's all about himself even though he was just abysmal when Matthews got hurt in the previous season. The Cats already have one such player in Ek who's more interested in posing than actually putting the effort in to make up for his contract expectations so the situation begs the question of how much dead weight a team can carry in terms of cap expenditure ...
How do u know ekblad doesn’t put the effort in? Source?
 
However there are still plenty of mgmt groups that show no loyalty towards the players because after all it's a results driven business. I think that, like you expressed, Nylander is taking this mentality to the extreme especially considering that without hockey he'd be flipping burgers. All these types of players, like Hubs with his identical contract to that of Barkov, just shows how highly they think of themselves only to be screwed by themselves in the end i.e. pride comes before the fall. The Cats' brass, the Calculator specifically, tries to gauge how "painful" it is to deal with the players in order to slot them in their long term plans. Nylander is just showcasing his attitude that it's all about himself even though he was just abysmal when Matthews got hurt in the previous season. The Cats already have one such player in Ek who's more interested in posing than actually putting the effort in to make up for his contract expectations so the situation begs the question of how much dead weight a team can carry in terms of cap expenditure ...
Yes, Ekblad needs to only be taking pictures where he's working out, or looking depressed. Otherwise everyone's going to lose their ****. Lol
Because, you know, he was out of position that one time in that game...
 

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