Post-Game Talk: Sharks 7, Oilers 4

[Cloned]

Very true on Tkachuk. Boy that's frustrating.
I think Jones has "it" but he is untapped. I think Nurse is better at Nurse's game than Jones is at Jones' game right now. At this level.
Do I make sense? Nurse is closer to his peak and knows his role when the team is healthy.

Jones is about to be Sekera but more mobile and a more accurate shot. But he isn't there yet.

This feels like rambling, so I am gonna shut up and concede you're probably better at analysing Dmen than I am.

I think you hit it perfectly with Jones having “it.” Some players just get how to play the game and you can tell they have the ability very early on (Brayden Point is a good example). Others are more gifted genetically in terms of height or speed but can never really put it together because they can’t process the game at the NHL level.

I’m flattered, but we are all just (very opinionated) fans here lol

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

And he got an Apple

#oilerpositives

 

[StevenF1919]

Neither of them carry the other, but you probably have a Taylor Hall sock you use.

Sure. I guess it's a coincidence that Larsson has been a tire fire since Klefbom got hurt?

The guy is trash.

 

[Pointteen]

I think you hit it perfectly with Jones having “it.” Some players just get how to play the game and you can tell they have the ability very early on (Brayden Point is a good example). Others are more gifted genetically in terms of height or speed but can never really put it together because they can’t process the game at the NHL level.

I’m flattered, but we are all just (very opinionated) fans here lol

Point was such a secret last season in my pool. Not anymore.

Nah I will admit I suck at analysing D in their own zone and them starting the rush. Goalies I really only notice rebound control, puck handling. Talbot taught me to watch how they play high shots.

 

[Missing smitty]

Guess we know which dman was the one carrying the top pairing 2 seasons ago.

Larsson ****ing sucks.

Or he can't make up for Nurse being absolutely dog shit defensively? Larsson hasn't been very good, but Nurse has been an absolute tire fire.

 

[Pointteen]

Sure. I guess it's a coincidence that Larsson has been a tire fire since Klefbom got hurt?

The guy is trash.

Larsson is good at hockey. Great at shutting down. He's just a chemistry culprit. He needs a partner he clicks with. I doubt we have anyone he can do that with right now. I would love to see a prime Sekera partnered with him.

 

[Canada Drai]

Nurse + JP for Couturier. Bite the bullet on both of them.

Couts > Nurse defensively. I would do it. JP is a risk but idk if he will pan out here. Likely to leave and score 40 goals a year for a decade on another team.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Bet the Jets are just salivating right now.

 

[StevenF1919]

Or he can't make up for Nurse being absolutely dog **** defensively? Larsson hasn't been very good, but Nurse has been an absolute tire fire.

They both suck.

Larsson is good at hockey. Great at shutting down. He's just a chemistry culprit. He needs a partner he clicks with. I doubt we have anyone he can do that with right now. I would love to see a prime Sekera partnered with him.

Needs a partner he clicks with AKA someone who can carry him. Klefbom is a stud and Larsson is a borderline second pairing dman.

 

[Pointteen]

Couts > Nurse defensively. I would do it. JP is a risk but idk if he will pan out here. Likely to leave and score 40 goals a year for a decade on another team.

JP won't score 40 on any team. 35 at his peak, sure.
I do that. I wanted Couts in that draft. But he wouldn't be the player he is now in Edmonton. Voracek and Nuge would be dynamite together. Let's expand this trade.

 

[CycloneSweep]

They both suck.

Needs a partner he clicks with AKA someone who can carry him. Klefbom is a stud and Larsson is a borderline second pairing dman.

I love hyperbole

 

[Oilers in NS]

Bet the Jets are just salivating right now.

Could be multi point nights for a few of them. Pretty powerful team. Hard to believe, 2 weeks ago we were in the Penthouse top 10. Now we are on our way to the Outhouse

 

[Pointteen]

They both suck.

Needs a partner he clicks with AKA someone who can carry him. Klefbom is a stud and Larsson is a borderline second pairing dman.

How quickly you forget how there were quite a few Oilers fans ready to ship Klefbom out because it looked like Larsson was the key to that pairing.

They're both the key. That's why they are able to play against top forwards. Individually, not so much. Together, they can shut down a team with proper backchecking forwards.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Bet the Jets are just salivating right now.

Winnipeg has lost 2 in a row at home.. and they've only scored 3 goals total in their last 3 games... this Oilers game coming up is a great slump buster for their offense.

 

[elmeroil]

Goaltending is a strength for this team - Ken Hitchcock

It was a smart thing to say to show confidence in them in hopes it would build them up.

 

[booyakasha]

Or he can't make up for Nurse being absolutely dog **** defensively? Larsson hasn't been very good, but Nurse has been an absolute tire fire.

???

He has been awful and has lagged down anyone paired with him.
It's easy to deflect blame to the other person, ...I get it, we paid a premium to get him, but he is a lemon.
stop blaming others for his deiciencies.

 

[Missing smitty]

How quickly you forget how there were quite a few Oilers fans ready to ship Klefbom out because it looked like Larsson was the key to that pairing.

They're both the key. That's why they are able to play against top forwards. Individually, not so much. Together, they can shut down a team with proper backchecking forwards.

His spreadsheets don't tell him stuff like that.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Nurse a -9 in the last 3 games.

"Top pairing defender"
"5+ mill is a steal"

 

[McDrai]

Wild goat looking motherf***er Couture with some more points against us (2 goals). Nice

 

[Cloned]

Winnipeg has lost 2 in a row at home.. and they've only scored 3 goals total in their last 3 games... this Oilers game coming up is a great slump buster for their offense.

Remember how Chia fired TM after a bad loss on a weekend and on the same day as the next game? Might see the same on Monday with Nicholson firing Chia.

Poetic symmetry, I guess.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Remember how Chia fired TM after a bad loss on a weekend and on the same day as the next game? Might see the same on Monday with Nicholson firing Chia.

Poetic symmetry, I guess.

Doubtful

 

[Pointteen]

Nurse a -9 in the last 3 games.

"Top pairing defender"
"5+ mill is a steal"

He isn't a top pairing D yet. He could be, if he was insulated correctly and allowed to grow. But the injuries to this D are out of control.
Every player is two spots up the depth chart except for Larsson. How anyone can be hard on any of these D is beyond me. Unless they do something outrageously stupid, they aren't qualified to play the minutes, PK, PP or competition they are up against.
Except for Larsson, who has to deal with Nurse who is very clearly not a top pairing D at this point. That's not an insult. Not many can play those top pairing minutes at his age.

 

[Boom not bust]

they were straight up shit that game. Probably the worst of the year. Got lucky on offense to score 4. Terrible zone coverage, transition game, 'top pair' completely exposed.

 

[Del Preston]

Wild goat looking mother****er Couture with some more points against us (2 goals). Nice

Bucky beaver :B

 

[CycloneSweep]

He isn't a top pairing D yet. He could be, if he was insulated correctly. But the injuries to this D are out of control.
Every player is two spots up the depth chart except for Larsson. How anyone can be hard on any of these D is beyond me. Unless they do something outrageously stupid, they aren't qualified to play the minutes, PK, PP or competition they are up against.
Except for Larsson, who has to deal with Nurse who is very clearly not a top pairing D at this point. That's not an insult. Not many can play those top pairing minutes at his age.

Nurse isn't a top 4 defender at this point. I showed it earlier .This year before the bump to the top, he was defensively our worst regular defender by a good margin.