TV: Severance - Apple TV

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WeThreeKings

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Anyone else watching/watched the first season?

One of the best seasons of TV I've watched and the finale was just incredible.

Excellent music, direction, story line and the actors have been pulling off incredible performances.

Real mind-f***y.
 
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TV: - Severance (Apple TV +)

Hands down my favourite show of the last few years. After getting waaay to absorbed by 'Lost' years ago I told myself I would check out of 'Severance' if they didn't give any answers to various mysteries. Turns out I'm a liar, they didn't answer bupkis and I loved every minute of it. Great finale. I don't like giving Apple my money for anything but I will be subscribing while Season 2 is being released.
 
TV: - Severance (Apple TV +)

Hands down my favourite show of the last few years. After getting waaay to absorbed by 'Lost' years ago I told myself I would check out of 'Severance' if they didn't give any answers to various mysteries. Turns out I'm a liar, they didn't answer bupkis and I loved every minute of it. Great finale. I don't like giving Apple my money for anything but I will be subscribing while Season 2 is being released.

I'm literally itching for season 2. I think they've given some answers but nothing major, it's still adding enough to the mystery and resolving some things to keep the tension and mystery up.
 
Anyone else watching/watched the first season?

One of the best seasons of TV I've watched and the finale was just incredible.

Excellent music, direction, story line and the actors have been pulling off incredible performances.

Real mind-f***y.
TV: - Severance (Apple TV +)

Hands down my favourite show of the last few years. After getting waaay to absorbed by 'Lost' years ago I told myself I would check out of 'Severance' if they didn't give any answers to various mysteries. Turns out I'm a liar, they didn't answer bupkis and I loved every minute of it. Great finale. I don't like giving Apple my money for anything but I will be subscribing while Season 2 is being released.
I just found this show and f***ing loved it.

My biggest complaint about "the Industry" today is all of the recycled ideas and reboots and repetitive super hero crap. This show is truly original.

3 thumbs up!
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LETSGOOOOOOO can't wait

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I don’t have high hopes for them to overcome the squabbling between show runners. Nevertheless I will be there for every episode. By far one of my favourite shows of the last decade+.

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Bumping this thread cause we're just a little over 2 weeks from season 2, only been waiting about 3 years for it :laugh:


Honestly I'm rewatching season 1 this week because while I remember most of what happened and where things ended, definitely forgetting some of the smaller details and things that happened.


Season 1 of this show was incredible. Pretty sure I binged it in like 2 days when I watched it. Trailers for Season 2 look just as promising honestly.
 

Reviews for season 2 are starting to come in.... 100% through 40 reviews so far. Truly think we're watching what's going to be considered an all time best series in a few years from now.
 
Season 2 premiere was so f***ing good... It some how leaves you with even more questions and even less answers then where we left off at the end of season 1.


I have no f***ing clue where some of these threads are heading.

I think they did a brilliant job at subtly but not so subtly showing that its Helena and not Helly that's inside with the innies. That's also brilliant writing IMO.
 
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I binged through the first season just in time to get caught up without even knowing season 2 was premiering last night. Season 1 hooked me hard. Not perfect as it felt like a lot that happened at Lumon HQ was too easy for plot convenience, but still a super fun Sci-fi mystery thriller from start to finish. Gonna watch the premiere sometime tonight.
 
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This is a pretty good supplemental (official) read for anyone that's through Season 1. Kind of calls into question my own theories about the work they're doing.

So the Lexington letter seriously implies that 1) this Peggy K story happened before the events of season 1 as they were still working on the tech for detecting writing while Peggy was at Lumon and 2) the work MDR does likely has some real life data analysis of some kind that could be utilized for corporate warfare...like the MDR codes may be connected to corporate espionage of some kind and they're decoding potential intel.

I assumed that they're doing an ongoing study on consciousness by trying to translate human responses into data that they can eventually use to further manipulate people psychologically. Maybe the codes can do both? Somehow? I thought the last shot of S2E1 lended credence to the idea that the MDR data was connected to psychological mapping, and Lumon was having Mark study Gemma's consciousness or subconscious for some reason. Maybe the timing of the bombing of Lumon's competitor's equipment was only incidental to the timing of Peggy clearing a file and while Peggy's letter is earnest, maybe the actual IRL author (think Ben Stiller himself wrote it) just put this out as a red herring to complicate people's theory crafting on the "important and mysterious work". This show is too good at putting a tinfoil hat on my head. Can't wait for episode 2
 
Pretty crazy how an episode that gives so many answers can replace them with just as many questions.

I was sort of agitated with outie Mark being so uninterested in finding out the truth about Lumon this episode. Like I get that after watching Graner get killed, he probably wanted to get away and stay away from it all and you could add that hearing that his innie came out and spilled the beans on being trapped and tormented, it would be understandable if he just wanted to quit for his own safety. But Scott wasn't playing Mark like he was afraid of getting too involved. He just seemed over it and exhausted. And then he gets suckered back in, not on the faint belief that maybe innie Mark meant that Gemma was still alive but just because he bought into Milchik's bullshit. It did kind of feel like they were writing/direction him to be jaded so that it would feel more dramatic when he had his confrontation with Cobel.

I mean that moment where Cobel unwillingly showed her cards and roused Mark's suspicions was so well done to begin with. She knows the danger of that happening but when confronted with the question about Gemma, some sense of moral decency or guilt trips her up and she takes too long to answer. That's so effective on its own, I don't know why they needed to write Mark more or less out of character to achieve the scene's purpose.

Interesting that they heavily implied that Helly is Helena on the severed floor but then they discuss that Mark would be getting "Helly R" and didn't show us whether she physically switched Severance states in the elevator, leaving it a bit open ended. I think it's more plausible that it's Helena but I'm wondering if they're going for misdirection for some reason.

Irving talking about getting a message to his innie to an unknown caller and then outie Burt watching him from a distance is the biggest head scratcher. Like we know outie Irving is investigating Lumon and maybe it's for this unnamed organization that Petey referred to but like, what's Burt's angle? How did outie Irving get a message to his Innie aside from the paint hallucinations? I really couldn't even begin to guess where they're going with that. If Irving is aligned with this shadow resistance organization, I can't fathom that Burt's in there with him if he's spying on him. Maybe it's a Cobel situation where he's still working for Lumon on the outside.

Interesting to see that Helena got chewed by her father. My guess right now is if she is down there as Helly long enough she'll decide on her own accord to undermine her family's corporation but that seems almost too obvious. I think it'd be more interesting if she was just the show's main villain the way we've seen her here.

Last, Cold Harbor. It's obvious that Lumon needs Mark specifically for the Cold Harbor project and it relates to Gemma. The four bins for the MDR data correlate to the "four tempers" of the human soul theorized by Kier and Mark confirmed that he saw and identified Gemma's dead body. I think that's a fair bit removed from "brain dead" but maybe it's possible she only looked dead? Maybe Lumon faked her death to use her as a test subject? In any case, my guess is Mark's cold harbor work is directly a project to try to somehow wire or rewire Gemma's consciousness or brain functioning or both. Cobel seemed really interested in seeing whether Mark and Ms. Casey could remember each other even slightly. In wellness, Mark sculpted a tree which is what Gemma allegedly hit with her car when she allegedly died. And Lumon *needs* Mark to do the MDR work on Gemma. There has to be something to that. Like only Mark could subconsciously understand the intricacies of Gemma's psyche and personality for whatever they're trying to do. Regardless of how f***ed up it is to make a presumed widower the catalyst of human experimentation on his believed dead spouse. Or maybe she's a clone and they're using Mark to try to restore her consciousness and personality. Maybe the goats are an example of goat cloning. I don't know. I feel like there's a lot of hints of what they're trying to do, but none of them are particularly strong.

Like I said, even more questions after getting a bunch of answers.
 
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Pretty crazy how an episode that gives so many answers can replace them with just as many questions.

I was sort of agitated with outie Mark being so uninterested in finding out the truth about Lumon this episode. Like I get that after watching Graner get killed, he probably wanted to get away and stay away from it all and you could add that hearing that his innie came out and spilled the beans on being trapped and tormented, it would be understandable if he just wanted to quit for his own safety. But Scott wasn't playing Mark like he was afraid of getting too involved. He just seemed over it and exhausted. And then he gets suckered back in, not on the faint belief that maybe innie Mark meant that Gemma was still alive but just because he bought into Milchik's bullshit. It did kind of feel like they were writing/direction him to be jaded so that it would feel more dramatic when he had his confrontation with Cobel.

I mean that moment where Cobel unwillingly showed her cards and roused Mark's suspicions was so well done to begin with. She knows the danger of that happening but when confronted with the question about Gemma, some sense of moral decency or guilt trips her up and she takes too long to answer. That's so effective on its own, I don't know why they needed to write Mark more or less out of character to achieve the scene's purpose.

Interesting that they heavily implied that Helly is Helena on the severed floor but then they discuss that Mark would be getting "Helly R" and didn't show us whether she physically switched Severance states in the elevator, leaving it a bit open ended. I think it's more plausible that it's Helena but I'm wondering if they're going for misdirection for some reason.

Irving talking about getting a message to his innie to an unknown caller and then outie Burt watching him from a distance is the biggest head scratcher. Like we know outie Irving is investigating Lumon and maybe it's for this unnamed organization that Petey referred to but like, what's Burt's angle? How did outie Irving get a message to his Innie aside from the paint hallucinations? I really couldn't even begin to guess where they're going with that. If Irving is aligned with this shadow resistance organization, I can't fathom that Burt's in there with him if he's spying on him. Maybe it's a Cobel situation where he's still working for Lumon on the outside.

Interesting to see that Helena got chewed by her father. My guess right now is if she is down there as Helly long enough she'll decide on her own accord to undermine her family's corporation but that seems almost too obvious. I think it'd be more interesting if she was just the show's main villain the way we've seen her here.
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There wasd a big hint that Helena is the one downstairs in the first ep of S2 when she reached to turn on her computer and fumbled looking for the power button
I was reading a review and the reviewer also pointed out that an innie would never describe an apartment as boring, that they would be super fascinated by it
 

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