Ledge And Dairy
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Vastly? He's like 1.5M overpaid at most. Especially with the cap going up. He averages 25 minutes a night and plays both special teams.
Speculation: Seth Jones says he's talking with the Blackhawks about the possibility of a trade
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Well that's mostly for a lack of a better option. He's still overpaid at 8M, most UFAs are overpaid too...
Behn Wilson
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If he brought his A game every day, then he would be worth the $8.5 million. THe problem is those games are few and far between.
Ulysses31
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ploppsdman
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The man signed a ridiculous contract. He ain't innocent.
He makes 9,500,000.
Why would I have the slightest sympathy?
The dude has played on loser teams his entire career and guess what ... he's part of the reason they are loser teams.
But when has this dude ever pointed a finger at himself?
He wants to whine about being on a bad blackhawk team but that didn't happen in a vacuum.
He wanted the money. He got it. Shut up and play.
Kevin Musto
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Prior to going to Chicago, his clubs had made the playoffs more often than not. 4 playoff appearances and 2 series wins in 5 1/2 half years in Columbus.
No comment on the rest of what you're saying.
Ulysses31
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I don't think these are going to be easy trade talks, because I'm not sure the holdup has been his NMC, but rather the contract and Chicago's unwillingness to retain so much for so long to facilitate a trade.
I think they'd retain a little, but doubt that gets them to a point where teams are interested. I get the sense that Chicago thinks that if it starts contemplating heavy retention, then a heavily retained Jones should be really valuable. Yet I think other clubs view that as the bare minimum needed to get them to consider acquiring him, not reason to fork over a king's ransom.
There seems to be room between where the Blackhawks value a heavily retained Jones for five more years and where the rest of the league values that package. There's a decent chance they hold on to him. His increasingly clear desire for a trade might not matter very much.
Retention is simple for pending UFAs. It's a hell of a lot more complicated when it's for multiple years. Heavy retention over five years on a big contract? It's rarer than people think.
I think they'd retain a little, but doubt that gets them to a point where teams are interested. I get the sense that Chicago thinks that if it starts contemplating heavy retention, then a heavily retained Jones should be really valuable. Yet I think other clubs view that as the bare minimum needed to get them to consider acquiring him, not reason to fork over a king's ransom.
There seems to be room between where the Blackhawks value a heavily retained Jones for five more years and where the rest of the league values that package. There's a decent chance they hold on to him. His increasingly clear desire for a trade might not matter very much.
Retention is simple for pending UFAs. It's a hell of a lot more complicated when it's for multiple years. Heavy retention over five years on a big contract? It's rarer than people think.
