Seravalli: Seravalli links Demko to Philly and Tocchet

[jackjohnson]

Canucks trading Demko anywhere will be not be value their fans want. He is too risky to other teams.

"What would it cost Philly to snag Demko this off-season" is where you're already a bit on the wrong side. He isn't some hero, looking like a cap dump / LTIR. I'm guessing OP and other canucks fans will be pissed about offers and want more, no one will want to offer anything due to his health.

Canucks are better off to keep him then to trade him for nothing. But I guess that's Canucks motto, sell low or give away players for nothing like Miller, Podkolzin, Boeser etc. while buy at high cost like Chytil, Lindholm etc.

 

[jackjohnson]

I wouldn’t be shocked if Vancouver moves off Demko. They know how good he can be, but he simply hasn’t been available to them when they’ve needed him the most over three seasons now.

You can’t be a playoff team and not know if your goalie is going to be ready to play or not each year.

Yeah same with Tanev give away good players because they had injuries in the past and buy mediocre players that can play every game and still be mediocre.

 

[jackjohnson]

Why the hell would Demko be "very loyal to Tocchet"?

Tocchet wasn't a long term coach. He wasn't the coach that made him a starter. Very strange turn of phrase.

I can see Philly being interested. I can even see Demko maybe wanting a fresh start. But the loyal to Tocchet thing is weird and reeks of "former coach is now coaching over here" line drawing.

Then again this is Frankie who is only marginally more successful with his rumors than Eklund.

And really, Demko has very little value right now. Everyone knows that when healthy he is a fantastic goaltender. They also know that there is no guarantee he is going to play more than a couple dozen games.

Doesn't make sense for the canucks to move him and instead makes more sense to see if he can regain form. Not just for their season but for his trade value. Only way I see them moving him is if a GM offers up something close to what a healthy Demko is worth or if they really need the cap space.

I also don't think Silvos enters into the discussion. He's had a great playoff. But he was not good this year as a whole. He will have to earn a job and not be given it.

Don't believe anything that hack Serevelli says. I bet he lies about his age too.

 

[n8]

Poor Frank can't mix in a salad or a piece of fruit. He's 38 and looks 78. Does Fattycakes have another decade in him. He looks as old as Trump does now.

I think you are trying insult someone but it makes no sense. Like you tried to mix words with a piece of pizza to make a word salad.

 

[biturbo19]

Demko trade is just so tough to even ballpark a value on, because of the health concerns. He's worth a fortune if he's healthy, and very little if he's not. The questions about his health and how many more years he'll even have to offer at all...basically just create a next to impossible gulf in "value" between what he's worth.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Interesting. The Canucks actually are in a good spot on D and goalie right now but do need a little more cap space to add at forward a couple of top 6 guys. I could see Demko being moved. Let me be clear, Demko, when healthy, is one of the best goalies in the league. The problem has been his health. The Canucks signed a multi-year contract with Lankinen and even though Silovs was absolutely horrific to start the NHL season he has been a revelation in the AHL playoffs.


I can't tell if there would be a bidding war but I would guess the starting price is a 2nd and a back-up goalie earning $2.5 mil/year and under.

If there's an actual bidding war I do not suspect it goes much past another minor prospect or mid round pick.
Fantastic goalie, but it's his health and contract and I'm a huge fan.

 

[BernieParent]

the voices in my head are saying it's Jett Luchanko 1 for 1.

Call professional help if these same voices advocate self-harm.

 

[ArizonaCoyotes19]

Canucks fans are definitely overvaluing Demko. Any team that is going acquire him is has to have a solid backup plan in place. You just can't rely on the guy to play a full season. There is a reason why Canucks fans are willing to move on from him and it's not because Lankinen is a top tier goalie.

 

[Chainshot]

the voices in my head are saying it's Jett Luchanko 1 for 1.

So they can have a lineup to confuse Winnipeg by putting Luchanko and Woo on the ice at the same time?

 

[FlameChampion]

Probably better for Vancouver. You can’t rely on Demko at this point.

 

[SnS]

They have three first round picks, which ever is the highest, likely edmontons.

God that’s terrible value for the Flyers.

 

[BCNate]

They need assets to acquire a center which is the bigger need.

Canucks would get a 3rd, maybe a 2nd for Demko until he has shown he is healed from last years injury. That doesn't move the needle in terms of getting a C. Certainly not at the risk of dealing a goalie like Demko.

 

[Banana duck]

They have three first round picks, which ever is the highest, likely edmontons.

A guy with an injury described this way is probably not worth as much as you think he is.

> I’ve talked to a couple of people that have been doing this at the NHL level for 30 years. They’ve never seen it. So everything they’re telling us tracks, and despite it being small and somewhat insignificant, there’s obviously uncertainty that comes when there’s no sort of prescribed way to either improve it.”

 

[Rebels57]

I'd rather they kick the goalie can down the road until 2026 so they are still in contention for Gavin McKenna.

 

[Rebels57]

EDM 1st for Demko makes a lot of sense for both sides. Philly fills a position of need, and Vancouver will have much better luck turning their pick at 15 + another in the 30s into a player that can help now rather than just the one first rounder on its own with how weak this class is perceived to be.

The Canucks stand a very good chance at retooling super quickly this summer between whoever they pick up in that move plus Wallinder joining the team and Lekkerimaki having another year of development under his belt. They should also have $12-14 million in cap to sign/acquire a couple more forwards of note depending on who they trade their picks for.

Briere should be fired immediately if he trades a 1st for Demko, who is damaged goods.

 

[joestevens29]

Shit disturber Seravalli trying to stir the pot and take shots at Vancouver yet again

Not worth discussing

I don't even know if he's stirring the pot. The whole thing is just him trying to put two and two together. Nowhere does he even suggest that the Nucks are actually trying to move him. Just that maybe they might.

 

[joestevens29]

Demko trade is just so tough to even ballpark a value on, because of the health concerns. He's worth a fortune if he's healthy, and very little if he's not. The questions about his health and how many more years he'll even have to offer at all...basically just create a next to impossible gulf in "value" between what he's worth.

Think the only way they get good value is if he is playing a starters load well and is healthy come January.

Unless there is a GM out there who is on the hot seat and desperate to try save his job, I don't see Demko returning much value this summer.

 

[PAZ]

Vancouver would be smart to limit his minutes next season and trade him at the deadline. Nobody is going to give anything of significant value this summer with his injury history. But if hes healthy at the deadline teams will be desperate. The Canucks will almost certainly be on the outside of the playoff picture, playing in the tougher western conference and if Boeser walks having no 1st line forwards

Silovs is waiver eligible, so one of Demko or Silovs need to be traded this offseason.

 

[jackjohnson]

Silovs is waiver eligible, so one of Demko or Silovs need to be traded this offseason.

Silovs can just be waived and see if anyone picks him up. He wasn't good this year as an NHL backup, in fact he was terrible. Doing good in AHL playoffs but not sure if he is cut out to be an NHL goalie. Demko should be kept, knee jerk reaction because of his injuries is how Canucks lost Tanev and Tanev seems to be playing more games every season than when he was with Canucks. Keep Demko and give him 40 games. Better than having Lankinen and Silovs duo in net and miss playoffs again. Canucks with Demko in net have higher chances of making the playoffs than without him in net unless of course Canucks want to rebuild again.

 

[jackjohnson]

Think the only way they get good value is if he is playing a starters load well and is healthy come January.

Unless there is a GM out there who is on the hot seat and desperate to try save his job, I don't see Demko returning much value this summer.

Why would Canucks trade Demko if he is healthy and can play a starter load? While making 5 mil per year. Are the Canucks rebuilding? Only make sense of they are rebuilding and will want draft picks for Demko while aiming to be terrible and trying to get high picks. If they aren't rebuilding, it's completely stupid to trade him and pay the same salary or more to get another mediocre goalie if Silovs completely fails again.

 

[jackjohnson]

Probably better for Vancouver. You can’t rely on Demko at this point.

Knee jerk reactions to players that went through bad luck and some injuries never work out. Canucks did the same with Tanev, didn't sign him because they wanted a more reliable D man and thought Tanev was too injury prone to be relied upon. What happened was the Canucks became terrible defensively and couldn't find a good defensive d man for the next 4 to 5 years until they traded for Marcus Pettersson who is still no Tanev but can somewhat fill the void. If they trade Demko for next to nothing and he plays 65 games for another team next season, Canucks fans will riot and want Alvin to be fired. It's not worth it to trade Demko and his cap space is not problematic at all.

 

[Qwijibo]

Knee jerk reactions to players that went through bad luck and some injuries never work out. Canucks did the same with Tanev, didn't sign him because they wanted a more reliable D man and thought Tanev was too injury prone to be relied upon. What happened was the Canucks became terrible defensively and couldn't find a good defensive d man for the next 4 to 5 years until they traded for Marcus Pettersson who is still no Tanev but can somewhat fill the void. If they trade Demko for next to nothing and he plays 65 games for another team next season, Canucks fans will riot and want Alvin to be fired. It's not worth it to trade Demko and his cap space is not problematic at all.

I don't think it's an isolated case of a bad luck injury. Demko has a long list of injuries and this latest one is something never seen in the NHL before. That said there's not much sense in trading him. Either he bounces back and provides Vancouver with outstanding goaltending or he continues to battle injuries until his contract ends. I don't see any rival gms looking to take a huge risk on him unless they can aquire him for next to nothing

 

[PAZ]

Silovs can just be waived and see if anyone picks him up. He wasn't good this year as an NHL backup, in fact he was terrible. Doing good in AHL playoffs but not sure if he is cut out to be an NHL goalie. Demko should be kept, knee jerk reaction because of his injuries is how Canucks lost Tanev and Tanev seems to be playing more games every season than when he was with Canucks. Keep Demko and give him 40 games. Better than having Lankinen and Silovs duo in net and miss playoffs again. Canucks with Demko in net have higher chances of making the playoffs than without him in net unless of course Canucks want to rebuild again.

A team would definitely gamble on Silovs. He had a good NHL playoff run the season before and very good AHL playoff run. Like all young goaltenders, there's questions whether he's good enough to be a NHL goalie, but the potential is there.

 

[edevils]

The Flyer's goaltending is awful. I could see them making a deal for a starting netminder.

 

[edevils]

Shit disturber Seravalli trying to stir the pot and take shots at Vancouver yet again

Not worth discussing

What is something a conspiracy theorist would say.