Prospect Info: Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #17

[Xspyrit]

Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023

1- Ridly Greig 70.2% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #1)
2- Tyler Kleven 78.7 % (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #2)
3- Zack Ostapchuk 41.7% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #3)
4- Mads Søgaard 47.9% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #4)
5- Leevi Meriläinen 32.3% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #5)
6- Jacob Bernard-Docker 37.9% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #6)
7- Roby Järventie 41.4% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #7)
8- Oskar Pettersson 37.9% (Prospect Info: - Prospect Info: Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #8)
9- Tyler Boucher 45.8% (Prospect Info: - Prospect Info: Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #9)
10- Lassi Thomson 31.3% (Prospect Info: - Prospect Info: Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #10)
11- Egor Sokolov 34.0% (Prospect Info: - Prospect Info: Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #11)
12- Angus Crookshank 33.3% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #12)
13- Stephen Halliday 33.3% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #13)
14- Maxence Guénette 34.8% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #14)
15- Jorian Donovan 50.0% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #15)
16- Filip Nordberg 37.5% (Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2023 #16)
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As we have been doing since 2004, we are going to use the HF criterias for prospect eligibility (less than 65 NHL games and under 25 y/o).

Remember to vote based on all factors and not just NHL readiness. Overall skillset, hockey IQ, upside potential vs floor, age, stats, skating ability, shot quality, leadership qualities, size/strength, etc

Personally, I always ask myself, who would I draft BPA among these players?

Try to do some research on these kids, particularly the most recent ones. People are free to post links and videos about some of the prospects that should be voted soon, or even try to persuade others why a guy should be voted next! Spread info to help people vote.


Graduated players from 2022 (who are still in the organization) :

Jake Sanderson, Shane Pinto, Mark Kastelic and Parker Kelly


To be added :

Matthew Andonovski
Owen Beckner
Vladimir Nikitin
Nicholas VanTassell
Oliver Johansson
Cameron O'Neill
Kevin Reidler
Tyson Dyck
Theo Wallberg


Also, leaving the link of pre-2017 polls if anyone wants to bookmark the page

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[Xspyrit]

Came back from the States last night, didn't have my computer as I was on vacation and didn't want to do this on a phone lol

Let's see if we can build a top-25. I know the depth after the Top-16 is horrible but what can you do?

The way I see it :

- Good Top-8 (but well below the top pools though)
- Pretty decent top-15 (middle of the pack I'd say)
- Horrible depth

It looks like the pool of a team that has started making the playoffs a few years ago. I have no idea why the strategy was not to be overflowed with assets like the Coyotes, Habs or Ducks are doing for example

Coyotes have SEVEN (7) extra 2nd rounders in the next 3 drafts! They just had the 6th OA and 12th OA picks in 2023. In 2022, they had #3, 11, 29, 36 and 43. In 2021, they had 9th OA and three 2nd round picks. Now they have prospects like Simashev, But, Cooley, Geekie, Lamoureux, Guenther, Räty, etc and young vets/players like Keller, Schmaltz, Crouse, Maccelli, Hayton, McBain, Durzi, Välimäki, Söderström, Vejmelka. I really like what their new GM has done.

 

[RickyLafleur]

Came back from the States last night, didn't have my computer as I was on vacation and didn't want to do this on a phone lol

Let's see if we can build a top-25. I know the depth after the Top-16 is horrible but what can you do?

The way I see it :

- Good Top-8 (but well below the top pools though)
- Pretty decent top-15 (middle of the pack I'd say)
- Horrible depth

It looks like the pool of a team that has started making the playoffs a few years ago. I have no idea why the strategy was not to be overflowed with assets like the Coyotes, Habs or Ducks are doing for example

Coyotes have SEVEN (7) extra 2nd rounders in the next 3 drafts! They just had the 6th OA and 12th OA picks in 2023. In 2022, they had #3, 11, 29, 36 and 43. In 2021, they had 9th OA and three 2nd round picks. Now they have prospects like Simashev, But, Cooley, Geekie, Lamoureux, Guenther, Räty, etc and young vets/players like Keller, Schmaltz, Crouse, Maccelli, Hayton, McBain, Durzi, Välimäki, Söderström, Vejmelka. I really like what their new GM has done.

Coyotes do this every couple of years and it never materializes into anything. This team will remain shitty forever, its just the way it is.

 

[Xspyrit]

Coyotes do this every couple of years and it never materializes into anything. This team will remain shitty forever, its just the way it is.

When have they done anything close to that?

Maybe they won't ever become contenders due to them being in this market with their financial situation but they're now doing it the right way when it comes to assets (picks/prospects)

 

[BUCKLE UP]

Hamara is quietly a decent player.

 

[RickyLafleur]

When have they done anything close to that?

Maybe they won't ever become contenders due to them being in this market with their financial situation but they're now doing it the right way when it comes to assets (picks/prospects)

They accumulate top prospects every single year because they draft in the top 10 nearly every single year. They sell off assets as soon as they ask for money outside of Keller because they gave him 57M after his ELC ended. Teams consistantly trade retired players to Arizona in exchange for draft picks which allow them to consistantly have more picks than average teams, and by virtue of having more prospects. If you think Arizona will ever become anything but a bottom feeder who losses money every single year, more power to you, but history suggests otherwise.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Hamara is quietly a decent player.

We want him to make some noise

 

[jbeck5]

When have they done anything close to that?

Maybe they won't ever become contenders due to them being in this market with their financial situation but they're now doing it the right way when it comes to assets (picks/prospects)

When have they loaded on picks?

2010:
-2 firsts
-2 seconds

2011:
-2 seconds

2014:
- 2 seconds

2015:
-2 firsts
-4 thirds

2016:
- 2 firsts

2017:
- 3 thirds

2018:
-2 thirds

2021:
-3 seconds

2022:
-3 firsts
-2 seconds
-2 thirds

2023:
-2 firsts
-4 thirds

They've historically doubled or tripled their first 3 rounds.

 

[armani]

I chose Sebrango because of recency bias. Would have selected Jabronie if that was an option.

 

[Xspyrit]

Would have selected Jabronie if that was an option.

Added.

 

[armani]

Changed my vote to Jabronie.

 

[DrEasy]

This should be a tight race between Hamara and Jabronie.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Xspyrit]

 

[DrEasy]

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Most of the credit should go to Dorion...

 

[Ouroboros]

What's the argument for Hamara being better than Andonovski? They played on the same team last season but were on totally different trajectories. Hamara's role/icetime consistently diminished as the season progressed due to poor results whereas Andonovski's expanded.

Even considering player archetypes, Hamara will have a tough time transitioning to North American pro hockey. The rise of the 4F PP has effectively killed the role of depth PP specialist/puckmover. More and more you're seeing teams go with bigger, rangier, heavier players on their bottom pairing.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Hamara had a disappointing year in 2022-23. He has a lot to prove this year.

 

[Xspyrit]

They accumulate top prospects every single year because they draft in the top 10 nearly every single year. They sell off assets as soon as they ask for money outside of Keller because they gave him 57M after his ELC ended. Teams consistantly trade retired players to Arizona in exchange for draft picks which allow them to consistantly have more picks than average teams, and by virtue of having more prospects. If you think Arizona will ever become anything but a bottom feeder who losses money every single year, more power to you, but history suggests otherwise.

The reason you are giving (finances) has already been pointed out in my post.

When have they loaded on picks?

2010:
-2 firsts
-2 seconds

2011:
-2 seconds

2014:
- 2 seconds

2015:
-2 firsts
-4 thirds

2016:
- 2 firsts

2017:
- 3 thirds

2018:
-2 thirds

2021:
-3 seconds

2022:
-3 firsts
-2 seconds
-2 thirds

2023:
-2 firsts
-4 thirds

They've historically doubled or tripled their first 3 rounds.

Thank you as it illustrates my point. I am talking of what they have done recently since they changed their GM in September 2020

2021 :
-1 first
-3 seconds

2022:
-3 firsts (acquired 11th OA)
-2 seconds
-2 thirds

2023:
-2 firsts (acquired 12th OA)
-1 second
-4 thirds

2024 :
-1 first
-3 seconds
-3 thirds

2025 :
-1 first
-4 seconds
-2 thirds

2026 :
-1 first
-3 seconds
-2 thirds

Yes they have been "rebuilding" and selling players a lot of years in the past but nothing close to what they have done recently. They have much more wealth that ever before