Post-Game Talk: SCQ #3 - 8/4/20 | hurricanes @ RANGERS

[Siddi]

He literally missed the first two of 3 games to injury

Did he look injured to you? I didnt get the feeling that he was hampered by anything.

 

[bleedblue94]

Thanks for sharing homeslice!

No doubt. I guess I should just emphasise that the words he said are what you'd expect, but what stood out to me was the noticeable change in demeanor when he answered that particular topic.

I also think it's worth noting CK flat out said the team let the 1st goal in game one hang on them through the first two games and couldn't believe how they played. He said in tonight game it felt like the first time in the series they played ranger hockey. He said the whole team was affected and blamed himself in part for it noting how they were running around trying to just hit people with no purpose to anything that they were doing.

I really like the elimination interviews bc sometimes you get some good, raw responses, not the typical cut and paste stuff

 

[Siddi]

Basically the ultimate praises you give a legend when he's about to leave. Also CK looked like he was in pissed off shock the whole time answering questions, but when henke came up his attitude changed and it was very much extreme respect towards him when talking about him. I don't know exactly how to explain it, but there was a noticeable shift of how he answered the henke question compared to the others.

It would be sad if he had to go out like this. Imagine having had the career he has and play your last game in an empty arena. He deserves a better send off. Hopefully he backs up Igor next season.

 

[Kovalev27]

Did he look injured to you? I didnt get the feeling that he was hampered by anything.

No he was tremendous tonight. But not having him in first two games completely changed the series. We lost the game tonight when Chytil couldn’t bury a simple empty netter.

and of course the best players on paper Mika and Panarin were not the best players in this series. They were awful Mika especially

 

[hacknwack]

Oy vey. One of the many comments in here that is just absurd.

Let's point out a few things:

1. This was not a real playoff series. Teams go into the playoffs after 7 months of growing and building as a team. Young players find their grooves. Teams that were not gelled at the beginning of the season now are clicking on all cylinders, etc. This is a COVID Cup tournament, that is strictly being played to salvage some of the lost revenue. Having a 4 month layoff (actually longer than many offseasons) and then playing one warm up game before hopping into the 'playoffs' is just ridiculous.

2. To blame any of these players for their performance is equally ridiculous. We have no idea how their last 4 months looked like. And I highly doubt it looked like a traditional off-season. What was their workout regime like? Did some suffer from COVID? Were their family members suffering? Were they even able to skate? Judging any of these players on a 3 game performance after one of the most unique 'off-seasons' in history, is just crazy (especially when you've watched Panarin for 70+ games).

3. This team exceeded all expectations this year. Lest we forget how solid they looked in the final stretch. They are growing, maturing, have a ton of young and established talent and really took a huge leap this year.

4. Finally, this is for the best. Giving us a chance at another high quality pick is far better than having a short playoff run (we're not winning the cup anyway) in front of no home or hostile fans, without the real magnitude or feel of what it actually means to play in a legitimate playoff game. It's not that I think this entire playoff tournament is worthless, but I do not think it will prepare rookies or young players for what's to come in an actual playoff series. The most important aspect of making the playoffs for young teams is to help them grow with that experience. This is nothing like that. The best teams are coming off a four-month hiatus and are not going in guns blazing and with no fans, it's really like a weird teenage tournament, rather than an actual series and I just don't believe it will prepare young players for what the reality will be in the future.

You could make an argument that playing in a neutral site with no fans actually proves who the best team is. These games had the physicality of legitimate playoff games. The layoff is unfortunate. Call it the Covid Cup if you want, but at the end of this tournament a team is going to get Lord Stanley's cup.

Their may not be a parade. You may not be able to see fans bang on the glass but the NHL is doing a good job...and after this year I'll be happy as hell if the Canes bring it down. Anyway good series. Rangers have some good pieces, some of their stars seemed to be missing a killer instinct though. Good luck and stay safe all.

 

[Rempe73]

CK answer about henke is kind of telling what the team thinks is coming

What did he say?

 

[bleedblue94]

What did he say?

Scroll up, asked and answered ha

 

[17futurecap]

You could make an argument that playing in a neutral site with no fans actually proves who the best team is. These games had the physicality of legitimate playoff games. The layoff is unfortunate. Call it the Covid Cup if you want, but at the end of this tournament a team is going to get Lord Stanley's cup.

Their may not be a parade. You may not be able to see fans bang on the glass but the NHL is doing a good job...and after this year I'll be happy as hell if the Canes bring it down. Anyway good series. Rangers have some good pieces, some of their stars seemed to be missing a killer instinct though. Good luck and stay safe all.

People are just pissed we got eliminated so aimlessly. Whoever wins this thing deserves the cup, and you should celebrate like all hell if you guys wind up being the champs, good luck.

 

[bernmeister]

Good news is, no chance Henrik retires like this. He's too much of a gamer. He'll play for 2 more years on league minimum backing up somewhere good.

could be here in NY, sell Geo to highest bidder, Wall/Huska your emergency.

Your premise is good as long as he stills has his reflexes, and if he insists on playing and will do so for league min after end of contract, why not, with Shesty as #1?

 

[Siddi]

No he was tremendous tonight. But not having him in first two games completely changed the series. We lost the game tonight when Chytil couldn’t bury a simple empty netter.

and of course the best players on paper Mika and Panarin were not the best players in this series. They were awful Mika especially

He certainly wasnt bad or the one deserving of the blame for the loss but I wouldnt say that he was tremendous.

He posted almost a sub .900 save % (i know save % wont tell the entire story but still, not good enough and worse than any of Hanks previous 2 games) and didnt bring anything really that different compared to Hank when all said and done.

For all your talk about the team needing 4-5 goals on any given night when Hank starts and that you cant see us losing with Igor in net, the team still needed to score 4+ to win tonight with Igor in net. Matter of fact, in Igors 13 starts this season (including tonight) he has been letting in 3+ goals in almost 50% of his starts.

 

[mas0764]

If no Laf, we should draft BPA, but I hope that prospect is a center.

Zibanejad, Panarin, heroes to zeroes in playoffs.
Kreider- talking about himself needing to get to that intensity level quicker. This, 1000%, and keep it up for 60 mins of a game, not just the first period. Such a headcase of a player.
Kakko- why did he disappear in the 3rd game though ? MVP of our playoff, him or Trouba.
Gauthier- mistakes or cuz he's a rookie, he's turning to be Quinn's new scapegoat
Chytil- you'd love to see a 20 yr old like him become a beast at 23-25... we really have to be patient, but it's hard to watch when our prospects just can't "put it together" quicker
Buchnevich- games 1-2 feisty, engaged, physical. I want to keep him

Strome, Howden, Staal, Smith, entire bottom 6, they're just so irrelevant, so meh, so bland, bad contracts, etc.... get rid of them.

Trouba is only player captain personality to me, but he's not our best player.

Lundqvist= King forever

Just my thoughts. Fun regular season, and NHL has done a fantastic job imo with these bubbles & covid playoffs. I guess I'm rooting for McDavid & Draisaitl now to go far.

If no Lafrieniere then we need to trade up into the top 10 to get someone like Holtz or Rossi or at least secure Lundell.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Stinker of a hockey week for us. It’s evident Coach Q has some homework to do - we need a system - this freeballin it approach is garbage. Teams simply need to stop the long breakout pass and we can do nothing.

Hopefully that was Staal and Strome’s last game in blue. Liked Lindgrens game and some of Smiths even.



It was said to see Henrik talking to himself in the final few minutes - he’s a top 5 ranger of all time.


Carolina is us three four years from now. They have some nice pieces and a killer first line.

 

[Crease]

Gained major respect for Svechnikov this week. I want one of those.

 

[Rempe73]

I thought Shesterkin was supposed to make them a better team, transition better, leading to more goals, stopping a higher percentage of shots, just making the team superior in every way.

Lundqvist was a .901 and Shesterkin was a .900.

Maybe Lundqvist wasn't the problem in this series? People made him sound like he can't play at the NHL level. That he was most to blame for their struggle. Yet we see Shesterkin come in, and not a lot changed. End result was still the same.

They were a much better team, at least in the first half of the game. They didn’t get the bounces, and the Hurricanes did. Igor didn’t let up any bad goals. Most of us knew that Hank wasn’t the issue, just that Igor could possibly do more to help. And I’ll admit it didn’t help as much as I thought it would.

 

[Thirty One]

Gained major respect for Svechnikov this week. I want one of those.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Gained major respect for Svechnikov this week. I want one of those.

That kid's already a monster, but he's only going to get better

 

[PuckLuck3043]

He certainly wasnt bad or the one deserving of the blame for the loss but I wouldnt say that he was tremendous.

He posted almost a sub .900 save % (i know save % wont tell the entire story but still, not good enough and worse than any of Hanks previous 2 games) and didnt bring anything really that different compared to Hank when all said and done.

For all your talk about the team needing 4-5 goals on any given night when Hank starts and that you cant see us losing with Igor in net, the team still needed to score 4+ to win tonight with Igor in net. Matter of fact, in Igors 13 starts this season (including tonight) he has been letting in 3+ goals in almost 50% of his starts.

Igor is far superior to Hank at this point. Igor was 10-2, 2.52 GA and .930 save %, all much better numbers than Hank not to mention he's a much better puck handler. Love Hank and wish him well.

 

[Rempe73]

Scroll up, asked and answered ha

Thank you, legend

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Basically the ultimate praises you give a legend when he's about to leave. Also CK looked like he was in pissed off shock the whole time answering questions, but when henke came up his attitude changed and it was very much extreme respect towards him when talking about him. I don't know exactly how to explain it, but there was a noticeable shift of how he answered the henke question compared to the others.

Yeah i mean Kreider has been with Hank through all their years of contention. He must have immense respect for him with how good Hank was for that window after already being an established star before Kreider even got there.

I don’t think the comments are telling to what will happen this off season necessarily but it’s kind of an elephant in the room as a possibility so a thoughtful guy like Kreider is aware of that.

 

[Siddi]

Igor is far superior to Hank at this point. Igor was 10-2, 2.52 GA and .930 save %, all much better numbers than Hank not to mention he's a much better puck handler. Love Hank and wish him well.

And none of what you posted had anything to do with what I was conveying.

But yes, Igor at this point is the better goalie and I also love Hank for what he has done for this franchise and wish him well whatever he choses to do next season.

 

[Machinehead]

Lots of universe brains out there who are like "ha I knew the Rangers would lose!"

So did we.

 

[Machinehead]

Imagine winning cup in an empty building with no fans. LMAO. And then you could not even have a parade and a real celebration LMAO. Rather take Lafreniere and win when the cup win really matters. This is a Covid cup. Who cares.

Idk, I just won a championship in an empty arena and it was still f***ing better than sex.

 

[Machinehead]

This was a very good season for the Rangers. Don’t @ me.

@Thirty One

 

[egelband]

Now I have to go back to my old faithful of rooting against the Leafs with every fibre of my being.

That’s fun too, though. And usually more fruitful.

 

[egelband]

I see Carolina losing in 5 to their next opponent.

Yeah. They play good defense and have some skill, but so does every team remaining. The Rangers I still think have just as much talent, or more, than Carolina. It just wasn’t the time.