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I doubt an expansion team will be that high but it certainly should be over a billion. Kinda hard to say a new team is worth what an established team with 3 Cups is.

They aren't gonna get much offers especially if they want to keep things as balanced as possible and it would be dumb to go to 33 just for the sake of expanding.
 

Things moving slowly with July 1 expiration date of current lease. "Cities move slowly". More than $100m in deferred maintenance on arena, that the Sharks are seeking some funding from San Jose city to cover. San Jose city facing $47m deficit.
 
Went on the CA road trip this year for the first time following the Caps. SAP Center felt extremely minor-league to me.
 
It sounds like the sharks want to stay and that San Jose wants to keep them there so I wouldn't be surprised that if they don't work out a full deal by July 1 that they simply sign what amounts to a one year extension on the current lease and keep talking.

But, as usual, I could be wrong.
 
Has to he image and fear of being the mayor/city council/whatever that let a team leave

I have yet to find an economist- without a conflict of interest- who argues a sports team has an economic benefit for a city

it does to an extent when Seattle lost the NBA the nearby local businesses felt the impact of people no longer going there during game day.
 
it does to an extent when Seattle lost the NBA the nearby local businesses felt the impact of people no longer going there during game day.
That was a specific area; I am referring to the entire city economy. I have yet to see a claim that a city's economy shrank after a sports team left. In fact, it's only one case but one economist claimed Winnipeg's economy grew after the Jets left and tied it to them leaving.
 
They're in a rebuild and just had one of the worst seasons in franchise history.
Worst combined two seasons in league history. Finished 32nd two season in a row.
Has to he image and fear of being the mayor/city council/whatever that let a team leave

I have yet to find an economist- without a conflict of interest- who argues a sports team has an economic benefit for a city
Zero top 3 major league teams before Sharks.

There's a reason Dionne Warwick had a hit with "Do you know the way to San Jose?" in the 1960s. San Jose (city) was an also ran in the region, after SF and Oakland. Even with rise of SJ as the center of Silicon Valley, it was not well known.

But with the Sharks and new arena, got on many music tours and more attention.

With hundreds of events annually at venue, that's a lot of folks who come to the area and may have dinners before/after events at arena. So don't say there is no financial impact to the region.
 
Worst combined two seasons in league history. Finished 32nd two season in a row.

Zero top 3 major league teams before Sharks.

There's a reason Dionne Warwick had a hit with "Do you know the way to San Jose?" in the 1960s. San Jose (city) was an also ran in the region, after SF and Oakland. Even with rise of SJ as the center of Silicon Valley, it was not well known.

But with the Sharks and new arena, got on many music tours and more attention.

With hundreds of events annually at venue, that's a lot of folks who come to the area and may have dinners before/after events at arena. So don't say there is no financial impact to the region.
Tell that to the economists who study this stuff. I'm just going by what my interest in the subject led me to find. Tourism is one of the major arguments for people who like to argue for an economic benefit and I have yet to find any study or claim that that is in fact true.

Re: events. The city could still have concerts and such, they don't need a permanent tenant.

One trend I seem to notice is arenas are built, a sports team is anchored there and then used as a basis for drumming up pedestrian traffic for an entertainment district (as done in Nashville and Columbus and the basis for new arenas in Altanta, Ottawa, Phoenix, and others). More or less used as a foundation to a redevelopment real estate project

And a side tidbit: I've always had a soft spit for the Sharks. In fact, one of the first jerseys I ever bought was a Sharks/Link Gaetz jersey. Are you old enough to know and remember him? 😏
 
If this lease deal falls through, expect Houston, Atlanta, and Phoenix to be champing at the bit.
Houston- apparently the Rckets owner doesn't want a hockey team (from what I have heard)

Phoenix- no arena to speak of

Atlsnta- no arena to speak of (unless the ownership group there changed their minds about having a hockey team)
 

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