Proposal: Samsonov (WSH) for a veteral goalie
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MicronMega
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Fleury with money retained in this scenario for both contending and cap purposes.
Why in the world would you trade a 24 year old promising goalie for some sort of a veteran rental ?
His record this year is 13-5-3 when Vanecek is 10-6-5.
His record this year is 13-5-3 when Vanecek is 10-6-5.
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I would do that if im the Hawks. They have no goalies under contract next year and probably arent going to attract one of the top UFA's. Sammy despite his struggles still has starter potential and is young enough too
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That's actually spelled "venereal" I don't make the rules.
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The Devils could provide secondary retention on Fleury in exchange for Samsonov and Hagelin.
txpd
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They could have Holtby back
Actually, I am pretty sure that is the plan
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This still makes me laugh. Samsonov has a .903 sv% with 3 shutouts. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that past those 3 games, he has not been good at all. The Caps may win anyway. The Caps give up the fewest shots in the league. Meanwhile Vanecek has been consistent for 2 seasons. He has improved steadily.
1 goalie plays well. 1 goals plays badly. The result? Trade the goalie playing well?
1 goalie plays well. 1 goals plays badly. The result? Trade the goalie playing well?
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For whom? Islanders, Washington, you or the Original Post/er?
Islanders - not sure if it does, was spitballing.
Washington - not sure it does, because it’s not my place to pretend I know the nuance of their circumstances.
You - see Washington above
OP - It satisfies the criteria somewhat (extra year may be a sticking point). Satisfying the original post WAS my primary focus.
Personally I think it would be a mistake to sell so low on Sammy. He might not be quite ready for a full time starter role, but he has shown flashes of brilliance, and has absolutely no leash. How is a young player in any position supposed to gain any confidence if they keep sitting him after a loss? Not that he's been great his last 4 games but his team has scored all of 7 goals during those starts.
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If Caps don't want him, Edmonton will take him in a heartbeat.
I'd personally take Vanecek over Samsonov.
txpd
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Varly is playing no better than Vanecek is right now and with another at $5m is a cap issue. Its great for the Islanders. They get out from under a $5m back up goalie and they get a 1st picked young goalie.
I doubt Washington has any interest here
txpd
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You are kidding, right? You are thinking that Samsonov is being treated badly? In January with a struggling team, Vanecek has a 2.0gaa and a .929sv %. In December his gaa is 2.42 with a .920%. 10 starts. In January Samsonov was 3.84 and .876. In December was 2.65 and .894. 10 starts
Samsonov has admitted that he is having trouble adjusting to the lifestyle. He has trouble with the language. He has had trouble being a professional hockey player at almost every level. His track record is consistent. I doubt the Caps give up on him but I would be shocked if to keep him they dumped the hard working, reliable player that the other guy has proven to be
