Value of: Sam Reinhart to New Jersey Devils

[Stephen Gionta]

Futures based package. Any interest, Florida fans? What would be the ask?

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[TheImpatientPanther]

2023 or 2024 1st?
Zito will likely want a 2023 1st.

Florida need C prospects up front or good defensive defense prospects.

IMO, Reinhart should be moved in either two ways.
Either a top 4 LD of similar contract status or a good futures package (1st + 2nd/good prospect) which maybe used to help move a retained Bobrovsky.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

I guess trading Weegar with Hub for Tkachuk didn't work out as they'd hoped..

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I guess trading Weegar with Hub for Tkachuk didn't work out as they'd hoped..

Tkachuk is outproducing both Huberdeau and Weegar tho...

 

[BB88]

I guess trading Weegar with Hub for Tkachuk didn't work out as they'd hoped..

I don’t think you know what their plan is/vision.

 

[Genny Screamer]

For reference, Sabres traded Reinhart in July/2021 for Devon Levi and a 1st rd pick (Jiri Kulich). Reinhart was a pending RFA. Florida signed Reinhart to a 3 year contract at $6.5M AAV. Reinhart will be an UFA after the 23/24 season at 28 years old.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Tkachuk is outproducing both Huberdeau and Weegar tho...

Once is a defenseman who is playing a different roll in CGY. But who cares if he is outproducing, they are a worse team currently without Weegar.

I don’t think you know what their plan is/vision.

To suck this year while they have no 1st in 2023, 24 and 25?

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Futures based package. Any interest, Florida fans? What would be the ask?

I don't think NJ can take that cap hit.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

I don't think NJ can take that cap hit.

They can facilitate the deal by sending Johnsson the other way. 750K cap hit this season. Shouldn't even cost an additional asset to move. Just a player to include to facilitate the trade.

 

[Xirik]

unless Florida is getting a Lottery pick or the 1st OV pick itself it doesn't make sense to trade their good players for picks. a player from this draft that becomes "something" two to three seasons from now isn't what they need. They would need basically ready prospects going there way and pretty good ones.

Holtz+ Gritsyuk/Mukhamadullin + Bahl/Okhotyuk

for

Reinhart

 

[Stephen Gionta]

unless Florida is getting a Lottery pick or the 1st OV pick itself it doesn't make sense to trade their good players for picks. a player from this draft that becomes "something" two to three seasons from now isn't what they need. They would need basically ready prospects going there way and pretty good ones.

Holtz+ Gritsyuk/Mukhamadullin + Bahl/Okhotyuk

for

Reinhart

That's a pretty large overpay from NJ.

If Holtz is going to Florida, the ++ won't be pieces like Gritsyuk/Mukhamadullin/Bahl/Okhotiuk. It would have to be be something more minor like Nolan Foote or Misyul or Tyce Thompson.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

It would have to be a 3 team deal with money from NJ going somewhere else. I don’t think they can take that cap hit even with Johnsson moving out.

 

[Dabeast]

There's no reason for Florida to trade good players with term for futures

 

[HBK27]

They can facilitate the deal by sending Johnsson the other way. 750K cap hit this season. Shouldn't even cost an additional asset to move. Just a player to include to facilitate the trade.

According to CapFriendly, the Devils have $390K in cap space. They have not been accumulating any space this season since they're leaning into LTIR.

Johnsson's contract counts as $2.275M against the cap, so there's still another $3.835M or so that NJ needs to clear out - which basically means that the Devils need to move out Tatar or Severson as well (or multiple other players). For a 2nd line center that would be getting 3rd line minutes in NJ, while creating another hole somewhere else.

Not sure why this really makes sense for the Devils.

 

[Beezeral]

There's no reason for Florida to trade good players with term for futures

This. The ONLY reason for the Panthers to trade Reinhart is to get a similar aged/talented player on defense. NOT futures.

 

[Schemp]

This. The ONLY reason for the Panthers to trade Reinhart is to get a similar aged/talented player on defense. NOT futures.

Gostisbehere@50% & a waiver exempt AHLer? Shouldn't be an issue with re-signing Ghost.

 

[Eggtimer]

I think there are other deals out there that could work better for NJ than Reinhart. I just dont think he is what we need , especially considering what it would cost to get him.
This is not even considering the Panthers side of a trwde , where I cant see them moving him unless it was for an overpay and helped their D core? At best , a long shot they move him.
I’d way rather go big and try for Meier . He is more what we need.
High volume shooter that is a proven finisher and can play a heavy style game .

 

[Mogo]

I guess trading Weegar with Hub for Tkachuk didn't work out as they'd hoped..

Yes, that was the only move Panthers made in the off season. Nevermind losing 1/3 of the roster

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Yes, that was the only move Panthers made in the off season. Nevermind losing 1/3 of the roster

He's an expert Mogo, never doubt their superior Canucks knowledge

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

unless Florida is getting a Lottery pick or the 1st OV pick itself it doesn't make sense to trade their good players for picks. a player from this draft that becomes "something" two to three seasons from now isn't what they need. They would need basically ready prospects going there way and pretty good ones.

Holtz+ Gritsyuk/Mukhamadullin + Bahl/Okhotyuk

for

Reinhart

oh boy, no thanks.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

According to CapFriendly, the Devils have $390K in cap space. They have not been accumulating any space this season since they're leaning into LTIR.

Johnsson's contract counts as $2.275M against the cap, so there's still another $3.835M or so that NJ needs to clear out - which basically means that the Devils need to move out Tatar or Severson as well (or multiple other players). For a 2nd line center that would be getting 3rd line minutes in NJ, while creating another hole somewhere else.

Not sure why this really makes sense for the Devils.

Ah, so it wouldn't work cap wise. Good call.

However, Reinhart would be coming to NJ to play with Hughes or Hischier. Not to play on the 3rd line

 

[Savant]

I guess trading Weegar with Hub for Tkachuk didn't work out as they'd hoped..

Maurice is killing them. Letting Brunette go was their error

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Reinhart probably wouldn't be worth the ask for the Devils right now, maybe in the offseason.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

I think there are other deals out there that could work better for NJ than Reinhart. I just dont think he is what we need , especially considering what it would cost to get him.
This is not even considering the Panthers side of a trwde , where I cant see them moving him unless it was for an overpay and helped their D core? At best , a long shot they move him.
I’d way rather go big and try for Meier . He is more what we need.
High volume shooter that is a proven finisher and can play a heavy style game .

I would love Meier too, but with his contract status so up in the air, it's tough to gauge what a trade would look like and if it would even make sense.

For all we know, he has full intentions of either: A. Taking his 10 million qualifying offer and heading straight to UFA in summer 2024, or B. Not getting qualified by Team X and heading straight to UFA this summer.

So it's tough.

With Reinhart, you at least know you have him for 2 playoff runs at a fair $6.5 million.

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

unless Florida is getting a Lottery pick or the 1st OV pick itself it doesn't make sense to trade their good players for picks. a player from this draft that becomes "something" two to three seasons from now isn't what they need. They would need basically ready prospects going there way and pretty good ones.

Holtz+ Gritsyuk/Mukhamadullin + Bahl/Okhotyuk

for

Reinhart

Nobody should or would give that up for Reinhart....Especially not NJ