GDT: Sabres vs Wild 7 PM ET - TV:MSG Radio:WGR550 - It's All Gravy (Boat)

[57special]

Good game by your team. On another night you would've had 3-4 goals. Thompson and Dahlin in particular seemed to not be able to pick the corners then they had wide open chances. I agree with the poster above who said that you missed Greenway or someone similar who could live in the paint and bang in a rebound. Basically, a lot to like in that game for the Sabres. Lost in the Gustavsson SO was that your goalie was just as good- he had zero chance on a well executed 4 on 1 involving Kaprizov, Boldy, Faber, and JEE....exactly the guys you don't want to see in that situation.



Bottom line is that you played a really good game, and deserved at least a point. Good to see the excellent goaltending.

 

[DapperCam]

There were 3-4 routine penalties on the Wild that went uncalled. Foligno hammering Quinn to the ice after the whistle being the most blatant.

I wasn't happy to see the 4th line get 2 shifts in the final 10 minutes while down a goal. Doesn't Lindy believe in shortening the bench in a situation like that?

I think the most blatant was the too many men missed call. It isn’t even a judgement call, inexcusable from the refs.

 

[Zman5778]

I couldn't watch the game, so it's hard for me to say. Joki is again the worst in metrics, it seems Kulich, Quinn, Krebs and Cozens weren't very noticeable.

Yeah, a lot of those metrics you cite don't match my eye test at all. Joki had a couple of key defensive plays and was just fine. Kulich and Quinn were VERY noticeable and frankly they each could/should have had a goal against a different goalie. Cozens ran hot and cold -- there were some shifts where he looked like his old self and shifts where he was disconnected with everyone. I think he tipped a puck on the PP that just barely missed the right post. Krebs? Seems like every time the last 1.5 years that he's given a chance in an offensive role, he completely falls on his face and did so again tonight.

 

[Zman5778]

I think the most blatant was the too many men missed call. It isn’t even a judgement call, inexcusable from the refs.

Either that or Kaprizov's bullshit on Krebs. Freaking yanking his stick out of his hand and then blatantly, obviously, intentionally tripping him on the way to the bench.

 

[Fjordy]

Yeah, a lot of those metrics you cite don't match my eye test at all. Joki had a couple of key defensive plays and was just fine. Kulich and Quinn were VERY noticeable and frankly they each could/should have had a goal against a different goalie. Cozens ran hot and cold -- there were some shifts where he looked like his old self and shifts where he was disconnected with everyone. I think he tipped a puck on the PP that just barely missed the right post. Krebs? Seems like every time the last 1.5 years that he's given a chance in an offensive role, he completely falls on his face and did so again tonight.

Well, those are the metrics. I'm just surprised that McLeod played 12 minutes and Cozens almost 20 minutes, I'm not sure that's the right use of players. Krebs 4C, it seems best to him there.

 

[michaelsaas]

Happy Thanksgiving all! That was a frustrating loss because we wanted and needed the win and I felt the Sabres played a great game. Unfortunate but sometimes you just get goalied, can't fault the team in this game though.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

They played well enough to get a point. Unfortunately they didn’t.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

McLeod has played 12 minutes, while Cozens has played almost 20 minutes and continues to average around 30 points on the season, which is unacceptable. I'm glad Quinn's game seems to be improving, but he needs to better his shot, he has one empty-net goal in 21 games.

Watching the highlights, there was definitely a lack of a guy like Kreider at front of the net, so many shots to Gustavsson, but no one is around net.

True.... the Sabres were easily boxed out by the Wild D. And a LOT of Sabres were knocked on their butts. This is where Greenway thrives in front of the net.

Last nights game had a bit of a smash mouth style to it. Minny plays that way in their zone and sends the puck up ice quickly to a waiting quick Wild forward to catch their opponent napping or overly focused on trying to score. Sabres were unable to grind it out along the back boards and get position in front.

 

[Sabre the Win]

I want Cozens gone and replaced. Cozens for Rossi 1:1, Cozens is that big body that Minnesota is looking for if the rumors are true Rossi is being shopped. Rossi has the hockey IQ that we need.

 

[Fjordy]

I want Cozens gone and replaced. Cozens for Rossi 1:1, Cozens is that big body that Minnesota is looking for if the rumors are true Rossi is being shopped. Rossi has the hockey IQ that we need.

I'm not sure the Wild would agree unless Guerin is truly obsessed with size, because Rossi is simply a better player than Cozens at this point, especially as a center.

 

[MagnumForce2]

Well, those are the metrics. I'm just surprised that McLeod played 12 minutes and Cozens almost 20 minutes, I'm not sure that's the right use of players. Krebs 4C, it seems best to him there.

I didn’t agree with the Krebs move to wing from 4th line center and putting McLeod at 4th line center. In my opinion, I would have like to seen the lines:

Zucker Thompson Tuch
Peterka Kulich Quinn
Benson McLeod Cozens
Malenstyn Krebs Lafferty

 

[GrierIsGod123]

I didn’t agree with the Krebs move to wing from 4th line center and putting McLeod at 4th line center. In my opinion, I would have like to seen the lines:

Zucker Thompson Tuch
Peterka Kulich Quinn
Benson McLeod Cozens
Malenstyn Krebs Lafferty

Love these. Personally would swap Benson and Zucker for chemistry reasons. I think McLeod and Zucker play well together, while Benso and Cozens haven't found any chemistry at all. Not to mention that Benson has looked good with Thompson and Tuch in short stints. Cozens with two veterans seems and at wing could really be the way. Zucker can show him a thing or two about playing along the boards.

 

[joshjull]

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Not a fan of these types of graphs/charts. They do love to throw a bunch of stuff togther that really shouldn’t be, like different game states.

Just look at Dahlin and Byram. They’re partners and both played well in that game. Dahlin’s underlying 5v5 stats were slightly better but they both had good numbers, especially factoring in their matchup with Kaprisov.

Now look where Dahlin and Byram fall on the graph above. Some of the reasons for that…….

1) The X -axis is QoT/QoC. Dahlin essentially gets punished for being the more prominent player and getting 5 more minutes overall. Roughly 4 of those minutes were PP+goalie pulled (6v5). Those are game states that will up his overall QoT and lower his overall QoC for the game. Not a ton but enough to notice a difference when presented in a graph like this.

2) Dahlin was on the ice for the one goal against. Byram had changed about 5-10 seconds before it was scored.

None of the above warrants a rating thats as far apart as the graph above.

 

[Fjordy]

Not a fan of these types of graphs/charts. They do love to throw a bunch of stuff togther that really shouldn’t be, like different game states.

Just look at Dahlin and Byram. They’re partners and both played well in that game. Dahlin’s underlying 5v5 stats were slightly better but they both had good numbers, especially factoring in their matchup with Kaprisov.

Now look where Dahlin and Byram fall on the graph above. Some of the reasons for that…….

1) The X -axis is QoT/QoC. Dahlin essentially gets punished for being the more prominent player and getting 5 more minutes overall. Roughly 4 of those minutes were PP+goalie pulled (6v5). Those are game states that will up his overall QoT and lower his overall QoC for the game. Not a ton but enough to notice a difference.

2) He was on the ice for the one goal against. Byram had changed about 5-10 seconds before it was scored.

None of the above warrants a rating thats as far apart as the graph above.

Well, it's hard for me to judge, I didn't watch the game. Although Dahlin has a positive graph of individual defense, individual offense and team defense. Only team offense went into the minus.

 

[57special]

I want Cozens gone and replaced. Cozens for Rossi 1:1, Cozens is that big body that Minnesota is looking for if the rumors are true Rossi is being shopped. Rossi has the hockey IQ that we need.

I would think about it as a Wild fan, but cap wise it's a no go, as Rossi makes 863K, v the 7M Cozens makes. Wild have about 300 K in cap space.

I think Rossi is playing very well, and his off season training has really paid off. Fantastic attitude. Cozens is probably a way better player than he is showing now.

 

[Fjordy]

I would think about it as a Wild fan, but cap wise it's a no go, as Rossi makes 863K, v the 7M Cozens makes. Wild have about 300 K in cap space.

I think Rossi is playing very well, and his off season training has really paid off. Fantastic attitude. Cozens is probably a way better player than he is showing now.

Yeap, that's not going to work at the moment. Cozens is down for the second season in a row, he had one hot season or rather a hot stretch, but then he signed a new contract and his play and scoring dropped. Now he continues to be inconsistent, he just seems to lack hockey IQ and is going at a 30 point per season pace. That's bad.

 

[57special]

Yeap, that's not going to work at the moment. Cozens is down for the second season in a row, he had one hot season or rather a hot stretch, but then he signed a new contract and his play and scoring dropped. Now he continues to be inconsistent, he just seems to lack hockey IQ and is going at a 30 point per season pace. That's bad.

He seems to be a good guy, and works hard. I think he needs guidance. At 7M/year you expect more, though.

 

[Chainshot]

He seems to be a good guy, and works hard. I think he needs guidance. At 7M/year you expect more, though.

The worst thing IMO that happened to him was he thought he could score 40 - that was one of the things Granato and him both mentioned after his best offensive season. And that's not him. He needed different guidance and now it appears he's down on himself with his confidence in the gutter.