OT: Ryan Nugent HOpkins gets new contract 42 Mill/7 years
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ScoreZeGoals
Boooorrrrriiiinnnnng
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I understand why they did it, and someday this could be a very good contract, but those Oiler fans who think this is a low risk deal are out of their minds. He's got injury concerns and wasn't very good last year.
Next year the Oilers will be paying 18 million for a top line of Hall-RNH-Eberle, that's almost 2 million more than the Kings top line of Brown-Kopi-Williams will be making
Next year the Oilers will be paying 18 million for a top line of Hall-RNH-Eberle, that's almost 2 million more than the Kings top line of Brown-Kopi-Williams will be making
Ollie Weeks
the sea does not dream of you
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Oilers over the last few years have reminded me of a person who has learned to perform a task, but has no understanding of what it is he's doing, so the end product is lacking. In this case, it is a group of people who have studied other organizations in an effort to learn how to build a franchise from within. Every move they make, no matter how logical it appears to be on the surface, just feels off. Like actors trying to read from a script in a foreign language and getting all the inflections wrong.
Eagle Fang
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Stuggled last year, but obviously he's young and has tons of skill. I think he'll bounce back and that contract will be about right value wise in a season or two.
KINGS17
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It's like Kopitar's 2nd contract with the Kings.
The problem for the Oilers is that they have too many forwards that have contracts like Kopitar's 2nd contract with the Kings, and not every one of those players is going to turn out to be worth it.
The problem for the Oilers is that they have too many forwards that have contracts like Kopitar's 2nd contract with the Kings, and not every one of those players is going to turn out to be worth it.
ScoreZeGoals
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Two major differences:
1) Kopitar didn't regress/have a sophmore slump in his second season
2) Kopitar didn't miss almost a quarter of the games in his first two seasons due to injury
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
That contract will make it hard to trade him when the Oilers finally wake up and realize they need a good defenseman and can't just win with forwards.
Ziggy Stardust
Master Debater
I don't think they'll regret it. Sure, he had a disappointing sophomore year, but as a rookie he netted 52 points in 62 games. That's pretty damn impressive. He'll be fine. They need a veteran dman similar to what they had in Chris Pronger when they reached the Finals.
KINGS17
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I agree, that he was impressive. We'll see how far he has come though, because this year he's going to get a heaping helping of Kopitar, Thornton, Getzlaf, and Hanzal in his face a lot of nights.
kingsfan
President of the Todd McLellan fan club by default
DL would have had him signed for two years at $4 million per. Bridge contract, which is certainly deserved after last season.
When was the last time DL signed a top 6 forward or a top 4 defenseman to a bridge contract?
There's a difference most of the players that he didn't give a bridge to didn't have sophomore slumps and bad injuries. That's why he needed a bridge contract for a player with the history of rnh
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
Which probably means having to trade one of their top wingers to do it. There's NOBODY even close to Pronger caliber in their org. In 10 years, it will be an interesting case study as to how they built the team around forwards and whether or not it worked out.
KingPurpleDinosaur
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ya, DL's done some bridge contracts. I think you can consider JJ, Bernier, Muzzin, Quick, Cammalleri & o'sullivan as some? Those were the only ones I could think of. I think when it comes to "ruining the NHL", DL is among the worst with dishing out big contracts to players straight out of ELC. But he's been spot on with them so far. But it definitely ups the demand for them by kids.
Doughty, Kopitar, and Quick contracts were used as standards by many players following their signings.
KingsFan7824
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Or the contract could make it easier to trade him if he turns into a 70+ center. You're locked into $6 million for a while no matter how good he gets.
The Oilers have to spend money somewhere. Edmonton will never be a free agent destination. If they spend the money on the young guys they draft, that's a good idea.
Scottkmlps
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Yeah, a bridge to next decade.....
I guess the downside to drafting 1st overall so many times is that you have to pay them at some point...
Thrice
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I'm sure Oilers fans are happy they've locked in their core for so many years but how good is that core?
Last year the group finally had some expectations after the way they all lit up the AHL but once the NHL came back reality set in and they finish near the bottom of the league once again.
Last year the group finally had some expectations after the way they all lit up the AHL but once the NHL came back reality set in and they finish near the bottom of the league once again.
kingsfan
President of the Todd McLellan fan club by default
Multiple times, as KingPurpleDinosaur stated. In a situation where a player regressed or suffered an injury or just wasn't showing the level of success that was expected, a bridge deal was done. JMFJ was a good example. After the bridge was done, DL signed him long-term when he proved he was more valueable. Same with O'Sullivan and Quick. Imagine if DL had signed O'Sullivan to a six year deal? We'd still be saddled with that.
It's why you do bridge deals.
DL wasn't the first GM to hand out those contracts. He just followed suit with the rest of the league.
And right now they all seem to be a good bang for the buck, generally speaking.
He meant the contract Quick just came off of, not the new 10 year deal.
After his ELC, Quick signed a three-year deal worth $1.8 mill cap hit. That was the bridge deal.
The Tikkanen
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If Dubnyk isn't the real deal they can sign all the forwards they want, you win in the NHL with good goaltending.
NHLFanSince2020
What'd He Say?
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Hyphenated names are ridiculous, especially in hockey play-by-play.
His dad's last name is Hopkins.
Henceforce, he's Ryan Hopkins to me.
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins?
Give me a break.
His dad's last name is Hopkins.
Henceforce, he's Ryan Hopkins to me.
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins?
Give me a break.
