RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 4

[HabbyGuy]

Silaev has a similar gap between he and Demidov that Demidov has to Michkov. I think there also could be a bit of bias for the guy staying in Russia vs the guy who’s fleeing….so while interesting taking it all w a grain of salt .

Meh,14 seems smaller than 24 to me, but yeah I take all these takes with a grain of salt. Only time will tell.

I personally see them in the same tier as prospects. We shall see.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Hope he puts up 100 so my fellow habs fans can be a little more humble and stop coming into his threads talking smack

Ridiculous. No one is talking smack. Posters are asking why he fell to 7th and why his Russian team didn't use him. There may be good reasons why or maybe not.

 

[Baksfamous112]

I think 25-30-55 is the low end. 30-35-65 a reasonable expectation.

Are you going to blame the coach, management or his teammates if he doesn’t get to 55?

That’s common around here. It is everyone’s fault but the player

 

[NatusVincere]

Ridiculous. No one is talking smack. Posters are asking why he fell to 7th and why his Russian team didn't use him. There may be good reasons why or maybe not.

Why was Jagr only picked at 5. Why was Kucherov only picked in the 2nd. Why Kaprizov in the 5th round. Why was Panarin never drafted. And why saw Demidov almost no ice time against men in his draft year (not even in the VHL) aka “his Russian team didn’t use him”, while Michkov was a KHL regular in his draft-1 year…

 

[yzerman]

Early but Wich player do you compare Michkov to in style?personally i think he could do a similar rookie season Bedard did.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Early but Wich player do you compare Michkov to in style?

I think a slightly lesser version of Kaprisov is a good comparison

 

[NatusVincere]

Early but Wich player do you compare Michkov to in style?personally i think he could do a similar rookie season Bedard did.

A winger version of Crosby with better goal scoring ability but not as explosive with the first steps as Crosby was the same age.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Why was Jagr only picked at 5. Why was Kucherov only picked in the 2nd. Why Kaprizov in the 5th round. Why was Panarin never drafted. And why saw Demidov almost no ice time against men in his draft year (not even in the VHL) aka “his Russian team didn’t use him”, while Michkov was a KHL regular in his draft-1 year…

Why did SKA keep loaning him to Sochi? We will soon find out if the Canadiens Russian resources are any good at evaluating players character and talent.

 

[KevSkillz4]

I think Demidov vs Michkov will be a rivalty in NHL.

That will be fun to watch for many years to come.

Everyone have their opinions, but one thing for sure, both have been considering #2 pure talent in their draft respective.

Flyers are lucky to have Michkov at #7. Montreal are lucky to have Demidov at #5.

Congrats Flyers fan to have a pure goalscorer in your team, he have everything to put 40g++ per season.

 

[Baksfamous112]

A winger version of Crosby with better goal scoring ability but not as explosive with the first steps as Crosby was the same age.

Ok so now Michkov is a generational player? Should we expect multiple 120-140 points season from him?

 

[HabbyGuy]

Ok so now Michkov is a generational player? Should we expect multiple 120-140 points season from him?

You have a post in here equating him to Matthews for his goal scoring prowess and Kucherov for everything else. Now he's Crosby on the wing. The hype is out of control.

That said, I'm really looking forward to see him play, he's a very intriguing prospect.

There's a cloud of mystery that surrounds him for whatever reason.

 

[Kipper933]

but Demidov got more 1st votes.

I'm personally in the Silayev camp. let the Michkov and Demidov fans fight and wear themselves out and then Silayev will easily vanquish them!

Seems odd that Silayev + Miroshnichenko + Kantserov would combine for 40% of the 1st place votes, over choosing Michov or Demidov as #1.

 

[NatusVincere]

Ok so now Michkov is a generational player? Should we expect multiple 120-140 points season from him?

He is a russian generational prospect for sure. But his position alone could him prevent of being as productive. As of playing style he reminds me of Crosby.

Why did SKA keep loaning him to Sochi? We will soon find out if the Canadiens Russian resources are any good at evaluating players character and talent.

Why did SKA didn’t let Demidov play at least in the VHL…

 

[Angler]

He is a russian generational prospect for sure. But his position alone could him prevent of being as productive. As of playing style he reminds me of Crosby.

His play style is nothing like Crosby. Crosby is a play driver who has world class vision and compete. His edgework, board work and defensive capabilities are something that Michkov can only dream of. They don't play the same style at all, this is a terrible comparison.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

You have a post in here equating him to Matthews for his goal scoring prowess and Kucherov for everything else. Now he's Crosby on the wing. The hype is out of control.

That said, I'm really looking forward to see him play, he's a very intriguing prospect.

There's a cloud of mystery that surrounds him for whatever reason.

Is that worse than the Demidov thread where generational/ more talented than Jagr and better hands then Mcdavid (among other atrocities ) are bandied about on the regular ?

His play style is nothing like Crosby. Crosby is a play driver who has world class vision and compete. His edgework, board work and defensive capabilities are something that Michkov can only dream of. They don't play the same style at all, this is a terrible comparison.

He’s a play driver and has unreal vision but I agree the rest isn’t Crosby to me ..

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

I think a slightly lesser version of Kaprisov is a good comparison

Kap with better play making / slightly worse skating . His vision is really being downplayed in this thread imo

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Why was Jagr only picked at 5. Why was Kucherov only picked in the 2nd. Why Kaprizov in the 5th round. Why was Panarin never drafted. And why saw Demidov almost no ice time against men in his draft year (not even in the VHL) aka “his Russian team didn’t use him”, while Michkov was a KHL regular in his draft-1 year…

I’m not sure about the others but I believe that Jagr told every team that he wasn’t coming over right away to the NHL . That is every team except Pittsburgh. The pull of Mario was strong .

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

He is a russian generational prospect for sure. But his position alone could him prevent of being as productive. As of playing style he reminds me of Crosby.


Why did SKA didn’t let Demidov play at least in the VHL…

Demidov is a year younger. If they loan him to another KHL team or demote him then they will have been treated the same.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Is that worse than the Demidov thread where generational/ more talented than Jagr and better hands then Mcdavid (among other atrocities ) are bandied about on the regular ?

No they're both equally ridiculous.

 

[Rich Nixon]

His play style is nothing like Crosby. Crosby is a play driver who has world class vision and compete. His edgework, board work and defensive capabilities are something that Michkov can only dream of. They don't play the same style at all, this is a terrible comparison.

All sorts of crazy things said in this thread but this is kind of crazy in the opposite direction. Michkov's edgework and board play are some of his best attributes by far. When I first started watching Michkov's game before he was drafted, Crosby was the first person I thought of as well. They're certainly different players on a number of fronts once you take a longer look, but I'd say you're pretty off-base as well.

 

[FlyguyOX]

His play style is nothing like Crosby. Crosby is a play driver who has world class vision and compete. His edgework, board work and defensive capabilities are something that Michkov can only dream of. They don't play the same style at all, this is a terrible comparison.

You’re wrong. Their IQ and ability to be in the perfect spot so often is very similar

 

[Guadana]

There are no fan base in nhl that woukd argue Demidov against Michkov so much as Demidov. Poor Demidov was drafted buy a wrong team.

There are no mystery around Michkov. He was great in draft year as KHLer, he was even better in D+1. SKA isn't using young so players - both Demidov and Michkov didn't play for SKA in a draft year. Both are great player with generational ceiling. Now Michkov is in NHL already - but I would say flyers roster is less talented. Difference is big. Demidov will have better partners. Wish best for both. Im happy for Slafkovsky that he will play with Demidov too.

 

[GordieHowYaDoin]

There are no fan base in nhl that woukd argue Demidov against Michkov so much as Demidov. Poor Demidov was drafted buy a wrong team.

There are no mystery around Michkov. He was great in draft year as KHLer, he was even better in D+1. SKA isn't using young so players - both Demidov and Michkov didn't play for SKA in a draft year. Both are great player with generational ceiling. Now Michkov is in NHL already - but I would say flyers roster is less talented. Difference is big. Demidov will have better partners. Wish best for both. Im happy for Slafkovsky that he will play with Demidov too.

Konecy can play LW and could be a fantastic linemate to Michkov. Farabee is also an option and ain't no slouch either. I think he could find himself on a great line.

 

[Zine]

Demidov is a year younger. If they loan him to another KHL team or demote him then they will have been treated the same.

Compare them at the same age then.
As draft age players, Michkov played KHL (loaned to Sochi) and spent some time in VHL. Demidov was a full time MHL guy.

 

[Guadana]

Konecy can play LW and could be a fantastic linemate to Michkov. Farabee is also an option and ain't no slouch either. I think he could find himself on a great line.

I just think that Demidov with Slafkovski, Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Newhook and Hage is in much better situation. As from the partners perspective, as from the depth perspective. Defensive support looks better too.
I think Michkov has enough talent to do things by his own, but still its soway much easier to make it with better players. AM and CM are so great but still they are playing with Marner and Draisaitl. Crosby played a lot with Malkin, at least in pp, he still had him as second center to free the load.
I hope Flyers will find right center for Michkov and build second line. With Tippet, Koneckny and Farabee they can build strong top 6 if Luchanko will develop his game, but still they need one elite center. It looks like flyers should draft earlier next season - it should help.