RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 4

[wankstifier]

Don't be so West-centric. The NHL isn't be-all and end-all. KHL guys are still rockstars in their league, their country and make a heck of a living.

Michkov will be fine and will get his minutes.

I prefer "occentric"

 

[57special]

I was listening to this episode at the gym this past week, and was getting frustrated with his reasoning. He doesn't have blazing speed (we know that, he never did, but that's not part of his game). He's 5'10" (so what, he's built like a fire hydrant). He isn't great defensively (from what I saw I'm parts this preseason, he's working well to get back and help out). He isn't built like a playoff forward (who cares, not all players on NHL teams are 6'4"). He was also saying that all defenders in the KHL are weak and he's never been tested against good defenders (dumb

Sounds like a description of Kaprizov when he was younger.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Centers the 3rd line vs Sochi, his linemates are Fedotov and Demidov.

 

[Dr Jablonski PhD]

I would've understood their posture on Michkov two years ago, but last season I found it excessive and this season it's absolutely ridiculous. He's your best player. Let him be that and don't screw that up.

Do you really think he's their best player right now? Just to call it like I see it, Michkov seems to have a lot of work to do on his shot, release, and getting it on goal unblocked more consistently. There's something weird about the consistency of his release and shot velocity

 

[FlyguyOX]

Do you really think he's their best player right now? Just to call it like I see it, Michkov seems to have a lot of work to do on his shot, release, and getting it on goal unblocked more consistently. There's something weird about the consistency of his release and shot velocity

I don't think he scores as much as he has if his shot was weak.

Wonder how long until SKA gets tired of losing to mediocre teams and finally gives Michkov more ice time.

 

[tnfrs]

michkov's not having a great period so far. theres been a few mistakes that lead to rushes the other way. he left his coverage to head up the ice on another play that was broken up before it left the zone and michkov got caught watching the puck and that led to a goal by the guy he should have been covering in the slot. his skating has looked a lil suspect too, a teammate had to give him the stick push so he could catch up on a back check. hes started a few plays the other way that could have been dangerous but hes had a few awful shifts today

 

[Dr Jablonski PhD]

I don't think he scores as much as he has if his shot was weak.

Wonder how long until SKA gets tired of losing to mediocre teams and finally gives Michkov more ice time.

It's not weak, but he scores as much as he does mostly because of his overall IQ, anticipation, and vision of the ice surface. If he improved the consistency of his shot his production would skyrocket

I'm not saying it won't come, but it needs to imo

 

[FlyguyOX]

michkov's not having a great period so far. theres been a few mistakes that lead to rushes the other way. he left his coverage to head up the ice on another play that was broken up before it left the zone and michkov got caught watching the puck and that led to a goal by the guy he should have been covering in the slot. his skating has looked a lil suspect too, a teammate had to give him the stick push so he could catch up on a back check. hes started a few plays the other way that could have been dangerous but hes had a few awful shifts today

Agree, also had a bad giveaway in D-zone on a lazy clear. One of the common critiques of him flaring up.

 

[Dr Jablonski PhD]

They fuken benched him?? Demidov was the one who caused the 2nd goal against

 

[FlyguyOX]

They fuken benched him?? Demidov was the one who caused the 2nd goal against

KHL gonna KHL.

 

[Fantomas]

I mentioned Bedard too and how the Hawks shouldn't do it in the NHL. Doesn't matter the league. Don't put bums ahead of players who have superstar potential and are ready to play at that level.

I don't really disagree. I just don't like when people put down the KHL and treat it like a farm league for the NHL. It's a good league with its own stars and many fans there couldn't give a hoot about what's best for the NHL.

 

[tnfrs]

They fuken benched him?? Demidov was the one who caused the 2nd goal against

hes not even on the firs powerplay unit which is just dumb, but maybe Rotenberg still wants to see what his team can do without Michkov. Demidov is still gettin lots of ice so hes singling out Michkov

 

[Dr Jablonski PhD]

hes not even on the firs powerplay unit which is just dumb, but maybe Rotenberg still wants to see what his team can do without Michkov. Demidov is still gettin lots of ice so hes singling out Michkov

the obvious possibility is that they already decided where Michkov will play. Vorobyov, Gritsyuk, and Leipsic aren't even dressed today.. so it could just be preseason antics. But the weird thing is that Michkov started the game with solid ice time on the 3rd line

 

[tnfrs]

who just tried that michigan lol

 

[Tanknation]

We did the Flyers a solid for not taking Caufield

 

[tnfrs]

We did the Flyers a solid for not taking Caufield

thats is the narrative I like, both teams ended up with guys that each team needed in the end anyways. mtl vs phi games are already some of the better games every year now itll get extra attention

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Do you really think he's their best player right now? Just to call it like I see it, Michkov seems to have a lot of work to do on his shot, release, and getting it on goal unblocked more consistently. There's something weird about the consistency of his release and shot velocity

Yes, I think he’d lead the league in goals and be one of the highest point scorers in the league based off what he did last season and expected progression from year to year.

And before anyone gets mad, I think he’d do very well in the NHL this season, if he was eligible to play there.

 

[Dr Jablonski PhD]

Maybe @Caser has a bit more of an inside idea of what is going on with Michkov and SKA right now

 

[tnfrs]

Maybe @Caser has a bit more of an inside idea of what is going on with Michkov and SKA right now

Maybe theyre gonna loan him to the flyers and they dont want him to get injured before the venmo hits the account lol

 

[Fantomas]

the obvious possibility is that they already decided where Michkov will play. Vorobyov, Gritsyuk, and Leipsic aren't even dressed today.. so it could just be preseason antics.

I agree. People are going nuts over line juggling in pre-season. We'll see what happens.

 

[Caser]

Maybe @Caser has a bit more of an inside idea of what is going on with Michkov and SKA right now

Currently the answer seems simple to me: preseason. It's a time for trying different things, seeing who doesn't keep up or who can be a potential callup etc. First couple of weeks into the season will make it more clear about what's the plan is for him.

 

[Garl]

This isn't only a problem at SKA, but I think SKA often believes they are more important in the hockey world than they actually are.

They are the best team outside of the NHL, but it's still a team with a lot of has-beens that never succeeded in the NHL or weren't good enough to give it a shot over there. They should realize their place in the hockey world. Michkov will likely be one of the best players to ever play for SKA when his hockey career is over. He's ready to play in the KHL. He proved it with Sochi last season. Let him off the leash. The rest of your players are pretty much nobodies compared to him. It'd be like if the Hawks decided Bedard was going to be their 3rd line center this season with PP2 time because he's less proven than Johnson and Dickinson. If it's going to hurt his progression to play regularly in this league, I get it, but Michkov is very easily a regular top 6 KHL'er, and deserves the runway to prove how well he can do.

They've done this before too with other prospects. They had Buchnevich as a 13th forward once he had already done well with another KHL team and now he's like a top 13 player at his position in the world. They had Shestyorkin as the second string goalie for two years to Mikko f***ing Koskinen and now he's second string in the world to no one. I would've understood their posture on Michkov two years ago, but last season I found it excessive and this season it's absolutely ridiculous. He's your best player. Let him be that and don't screw that up.

There is really no such thing as "easily" top 6 player in KHL because Top 6 for Sochi and for CSKA is a very different level. It is only the beginning of the list of stuff I can right about your post which is rather ignorant.
Situation with Rykov did not teach you anything

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

There is really no such thing as "easily" top 6 player in KHL because Top 6 for Sochi and for CSKA is a very different level. It is only the beginning of the list of stuff I can right about your post which is rather ignorant.
Situation with Rykov did not teach you anything

This is utterly shocking dishonesty. I exposed your false smear relating to Rykov last month with the receipts of what was said. The discussion wasn’t even about Rykov, which you either are struggling to remember after we yet again discussed this last month or you choose to lie about after your lies were thoroughly proven to be a false smear.

And you had no response when I brought the receipts because you either knew you lied or have no ability to apologize for falsely smearing someone. What makes it worse is you brought up this false smear in a discussion with another poster and mentioned me as an example of someone who got something wrong. In fact, I was not wrong. It was you. You dragged me into that by provocatively smearing me in a discussion I had no initial involvement in.

Shame on you. I’m not discussing Michkov with you until you stop this false smear of me.

 

[wankstifier]

Spicy

 

[tnfrs]

Heads up for anyone that needs a reminder, SKAs playing tomorrow Aug 25 at 1230pm EST again, dont miss it Michkov might tho but fingers crossed