RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 4

[GermanSpitfire]

This is not the first time I've read or heard someone speak badly about this kid's attitude and personality problems. This is some major red flags similar to Nail Yakupov. Hopefully, he gets to fix this before coming to the NHL, or else he's well on his path to becoming a major locker room cancer who'll bounce around from team to team and eventually be out of the league in 5 years.

There’s some serious Character Concerns on that podcast…

 

[SomeDude]

There’s some serious Character Concerns on that podcast…

Anyone who listens to chiclets for actual news deserves to be mocked. They're a bunch of meat heads trying to entertain. The only news they'll ever break is when one of their meat head cronies gets a contract somewhere.

 

[Rebels57]

Funny that as soon as the Flyers draft him, the character assassination pieces start churning out. What a bunch of clowns.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Funny that as soon as the Flyers draft him, the character assassination pieces start churning out. What a bunch of clowns.

I mean, these reports have been coming out since well before the draft. Nothing to do with him being drafted by philly.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Funny that as soon as the Flyers draft him, the character assassination pieces start churning out. What a bunch of clowns.

To be fair alot of these things were reported right before the draft. But yeah all this info is being reposted as copium most likely but surely there is some truth to it.

The guy is a hockey psycho , could be a positive as much as a detriment we will see

 

[Garl]

For those sucking hard on the copium




Extremely common in the SHL for top prospects. Literally almost never happens in the KHL because it’s a tougher league

KHL is a tougher league based on what exactly?
Also how is it common? It is usual that only first rounders get significant ice time and even then, not all of them
It is roughly the same between KHL and SHL, it is just Russia producing less talent

 

[Garl]

I took the one common contextual environment, you’re the one extrapolating.

Durrr my guy did good at the recent international tournament but since your guy wasn’t allowed to for xenophobic reasons I can say whatever I want and you can’t refute it durrr.

Look at the common contextual factors. When playing against players 2 years older Michkov led the tournament in points. Carlsson wasn’t even invited.
Sure, Carlsson scored more in the SHL this past year, an easier league than KHL, where he was getting top minutes. Plop michkov in that same exact environment and he would score more than Carlsson without a doubt.


More NHL ready doesn’t equate to how good they’ll be in their prime lmao

There are no Sun Jihao's in SHL

 

[BB88]

This post begs the question, did Michkov drop in the draft because the other guys kept getting better and he didn't or were there other reasons?

The biggest reason should be franchise C’s mean more to winning than franchise W’s.

Then in reality character concerns dropped him and his contract status.

Funny that as soon as the Flyers draft him, the character assassination pieces start churning out. What a bunch of clowns.

They were already brought up way earlier

 

[Garl]

Again, the main question: why was Michkov not selected 2nd overall?

 

[FlyguyOX]

KHL is a tougher league based on what exactly?
Also how is it common? It is usual that only first rounders get significant ice time and even then, not all of them
It is roughly the same between KHL and SHL, it is just Russia producing less talent

I mean if you don’t even have that basic premise understood then there’s not much more I can say

The biggest reason should be franchise C’s mean more to winning than franchise W’s.

Then in reality character concerns dropped him and his contract status.



They were already brought up way earlier

GM’s are taking Kucherov over Elias Lindholm

Again, the main question: why was Michkov not selected 2nd overall?

Centers are tougher to acquire. C vs W. That simple

 

[BB88]

I mean if you don’t even have that basic premise understood then there’s not much more I can say


GM’s are taking Kucherov over Elias Lindholm


Centers are tougher to acquire. C vs W. That simple

Honestly is this the level you are at?

You brought up Wright to try to make some ridiculous point and now you bring up Lindholm?

Lindholm is now a franchise C?
& Lindholm is Fantillis& Carlssons ceiling?
Do better, do better please

 

[Garl]

I mean if you don’t even have that basic premise understood then there’s not much more I can say


GM’s are taking Kucherov over Elias Lindholm


Centers are tougher to acquire. C vs W. That simple

1. Guys worthy of TOP 10 selection usually get ice time both in KHL and SHL. How is KHL a "tougher league" based on what?
2.Kucherov over Lindholm yes, Kucherov over McDavid or MacKinnon?
3.Absolutely not, Michkov with his pedigree should have been selected at least 2nd overall. If not for one reason. He had a dissapointing season. Thats it. If he scored like 30 pts in 40 for SKA and like 10 pts in 11 for National Team he would have been at least 2nd overall. It is that simple. Carlsson and Fantilli just had better seasons.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Massive, massive levels of cope in this thread from specific fans. If you like your player so much why do you have to come in this thread and force everyone to think Fantilli or Carlsson will be better? Simply leave the thread and enjoy your player. This place is discuss Michkov not nonstop force feed how the player on your team is better. The fact that you are here constantly doing this just shows how insecure you are . That being said if Michkov didn’t have a KHL contract he would have been 2nd OA, can bet on that.

 

[River Meadow]

Michkov just may go down as the best Russian player to ever play the game when all is said and done.

His skill is something we've never seen before.

Hopefully he goes over soon so he has a more of a chance to shatter records set by Ovie/Gretzky/etc.

Massive, massive levels of cope in this thread from specific fans. If you like your player so much why do you have to come in this thread and force everyone to think Fantilli or Carlsson will be better? Simply leave the thread and enjoy your player. This place is discuss Michkov not nonstop force feed how the player your team is better. The fact that you are here constantly doing this just shows how insecure you are . That being said if Michkov didn’t have a KHL contract he would have been 2nd OA, can bet on that.

If Michkov played in the WHL or another Canadian league, he would probably have gone 1st OA.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I believe the reports but Mackinnon bullies his teammates for eating a French fry why can't michkov also be a psychopath when it comes to hockey/competitiveness ?

 

[River Meadow]

I believe the reports but Mackinnon bullies his teammates for eating a French fry why can't michkov also be a psychopath when it comes to hockey/competitiveness ?

Because he's the wrong nationality for that.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Because he's the wrong nationality for that.

Yes , I agree but there is also the language barrier when it comes to guys like that in a NA room. Its understandable in a way no?

 

[Gil Gunderson]

So does anyone actually believe this?

About as credible as Biz’s “Brady Tkachuk for Barkov” trade rumour.

 

[Unger9]

If hypothetically Reinbacher is Noah Dobson and Simashev is Mattias Samuelsson, you sure as hell will care if Mickov is Nikita Kucherov (or if he truly hits his ceiling the yearly Rocket Richard favorite).

Is his shot really good enough to be a consistent Rocket Richard contender?

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Is his shot really good enough to be a consistent Rocket Richard contender?

I don’t know if he’ll be a consistent rocket contender but his ability to be in the right place, his creativity and release should have him right there, dude has a special way of finding the net.

 

[River Meadow]

Is his shot really good enough to be a consistent Rocket Richard contender?

Yes.

The only question marks for him is on the defensive side.

 

[Unger9]

I mean if he scores that many goals I think it'll be because of the multi-faceted nature of his goal scoring skillset, not because of his shot. The heaviness of his shot doesn't seem to be special. The release is great but doesn't seem top 5 or anything. It would have to be because of IQ and placement, ability to read and manipulate goalies, etc

 

[Garl]

Massive, massive levels of cope in this thread from specific fans. If you like your player so much why do you have to come in this thread and force everyone to think Fantilli or Carlsson will be better? Simply leave the thread and enjoy your player. This place is discuss Michkov not nonstop force feed how the player on your team is better. The fact that you are here constantly doing this just shows how insecure you are . That being said if Michkov didn’t have a KHL contract he would have been 2nd OA, can bet on that.

If he had a better season he would have been 2nd overall regardless of his contract status. All of this additional factors became relevant because he had a pedestrian year by the standarts that he set himself before.

 

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[Pavel Buchnevich]

Is his shot really good enough to be a consistent Rocket Richard contender?

Well, I wouldn't say his goal-scoring is based off his shot. Michkov probably scores more goals around the net for a smaller player than any player we've seen so far. His net sense is the best I've ever seen. Most of his goals are because of his mind. They are because he outmaneuvered defenseman and the goalie.

And sure, he can shoot it pretty well too. His shot is more about deception than power. The deception is among the best you'll see. The power is very good.