Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Y'all Got Any Good Goalies?

[unicornBLOOD]

I say no to everyone on that list. Anderson isn't happening, and everyone else is over the hill

Mintyukov (21) and Provorov (27) are over the hill? Might not be your choice as the right fit, but they are not over the hill.

 

[Zerotonine]

Trying picturing Gibson on the Oilers and Stuart on Anaheim.

This is what i mean, I would gaurntee Gibsons stats would drastically improve on edmonton and Skinners would fall even further.

I mean awuoring Gibson and running Gibson Skinner 1A 1B might not be feasible but would be interesting to see who takes over as #1. My money be on Gibson

 

[TB12]

The Oilers got as far as they did with Skinner. I'd rather see an Ekholm-type addition. I wouldn't trust the Oilers to actually scout a goalie since they haven't done so since Roloson.


I mean this is it. Hard to win when you only score once or less. Certainly Bobrovsky played really well in game 1 but a true championship team finds a way.

So one of the best trades in Oiler history for one of the best d-men in the league?

At least your standards aren't super high.

Ya we'd all like that but if that's your bar then you'll shit on anyone they get.

Get a goalie. Skinner is playing awesome now. We know how he runs hot and cold and up and down (like a toilet seat). His shit play can cost this team a series in no time. I run him when he's hot and when he sucks (which he will in a long playoff run) I'd like them to be able to go to someone better than Picard.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

So one of the best trades in Oiler history for one of the best d-men in the league?

At least your standards aren't super high.

Ya we'd all like that but if that's your bar then you'll shit on anyone they get.

Get a goalie. Skinner is playing awesome now. We know how he runs hot and cold and up and down (like a toilet seat). His shit play can cost this team a series in no time. I run him when he's hot and when he sucks (which he will in a long playoff run) I'd like them to be able to go to someone better than Picard.

This is the way.

 

[Soundwave]

Why are you pretending that the Ducks other goalies haven't been just fine for the past 5 years?

We can all see the stats.

Because they haven't been fine? When you've been stuck on a bad team like 6 years it takes a toll, lets see if Dostal still has the same numbers if the Ducks continue to suck for 6 more years. I doubt it.

So one of the best trades in Oiler history for one of the best d-men in the league?

At least your standards aren't super high.

Ya we'd all like that but if that's your bar then you'll shit on anyone they get.

Get a goalie. Skinner is playing awesome now. We know how he runs hot and cold and up and down (like a toilet seat). His shit play can cost this team a series in no time. I run him when he's hot and when he sucks (which he will in a long playoff run) I'd like them to be able to go to someone better than Picard.

This is obvious common sense to anyone, but some people are trying to twist themselves into a pretzel to deny it.

Riddle me this: How many Cups do Crosby and Malkin have without MAF and Murray? The answer is 0.

We may not be able to get that level of goaltending but we should at least try to get a tandem that is above average. This is obvious to most people except the geniuses in the Oilers front office.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Those of you still pushing for Gibson I wanna ask you guys. Have you guys watched a single Oilers vs Ducks game this half decade? I don't think there's any goalie in the league that's easier to score on than Gibson. I literally tune in when Gibson starts because it's time for our stars to pad their stats. The only time the Ducks have beaten us these past 3 years was a game that Dostal started lol.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Because they haven't been fine? When you've been stuck on a bad team like 6 years it takes a toll, lets see if Dostal still has the same numbers if the Ducks continue to suck for 6 more years. I doubt it.

So Gibson's particularly worse than other Ducks goalies because he's been there longer on a team with more familiarity? any other mental gymnastics I'm missing?

And yes, the other goalies have been fine. Except for Stolarz which was way better than fine

 

[TheNumber4]

Those of you still pushing for Gibson I wanna ask you guys. Have you guys watched a single Oilers vs Ducks game this half decade? I don't think there's any goalie in the league that's easier to score on than Gibson. I literally tune in when Gibson starts because it's time for our stars to pad their stats. The only time the Ducks have beaten us these past 3 years was a game that Dostal started lol.

The fact that Dostal can play well behind that same trash fire, should really kill the Gibson idea once and for all. Add the contract even at 50% and it just wouldn't fit, let alone the fact that he sucks.

So Gibson's particularly worse than other Ducks goalies because he's been there longer on a team with more familiarity? any other mental gymnastics I'm missing?

And yes, the other goalies have been fine. Except for Stolarz which was way better than fine

If the theory is 6 years of bad hockey has killed Gibson's ability/confidence, how many years of good hockey will it take to hopefully revive him. The risk makes no sense with this player.

Atleast a guy like Blackwood is trending up/even at the time of trade. Plus low cap hit and no term. You have good reasons to try that bet, Gibson, not so much.

 

[McHelpus]

Mintyukov (21) and Provorov (27) are over the hill? Might not be your choice as the right fit, but they are not over the hill.

True, but Stauffer was basically saying Provorov will be a Knight on deadline day.

 

[McShogun99]

It's one reason, but Skinner is a big reason too.

First time in the McDavid era we made the playoffs, you want to guess how many goals we scored in games 1/2/3 combined?

5.

You want to know what the series was after 3 games? 2-1 Edmonton. You want to know why? Because Talbot was outf***ingstanding. We won that series because of Cam Talbot.

Goaltending matters. A lot.

That’s one thing that bugs me about management during the Mcdavid era is that they never prioritized goaltending. Chia made a solid gamble with Talbot and a poor one with Koskinen. Holland thought it was the old days and you can just put in an average goalie like the Oilers were the second coming of the stacked, pre cap Red Wings teams then made a colossal fail with Campbell. I don’t know what Bowman’s plan is but he needs to find a 1a/b soon to go with Skinner or we don’t win a cup.

 

[McShogun99]

Weird, because Bobrovsky certainly looked vulnerable in games 4-6. Even the one goal he allowed in game 2 was hilariously bad. No goalie is invincible and every time I hear the "Goalie'd" excuse I roll my eyes.

We were goalied in game 1 but that’s really it. Bob saved something like 7 goals above expected that game. It was probably the best game the team played all playoffs and he shut the door.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Jeremy Swayman is now under SKinner in a few metrics....Guy sings a big deal and isn't living up to it. Same with Ullmark.

 

[Zerotonine]

Jeremy Swayman is now under SKinner in a few metrics....Guy sings a big deal and isn't living up to it. Same with Ullmark.

No surprise. He got paid. Hasn't Igor had a few rough ones since Signing his recording breaking deal

 

[oilers4life5]

For all those stating we should claim certain players for Bakersfield, that’s not how it works. If you claim someone they have to stay on your NHL team or go back on waivers.

 

[Jumptheshark]

True, but Stauffer was basically saying Provorov will be a Knight on deadline day.

Pretty much everyone will a Knight on deadline day

 

[Scrapin Ice]

My guy Johnny Kovacevic plays the top minutes on his team D tonight with NJDs protecting a narrow lead from the 13th minute of the third.
He goes 22.28 mins with 3 shots, 2 blocks, 2 hits.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Habs are a joke of a franchise. Looks good on Kent Hughes.

 

[NeverForget06]

The team (meaning management) is just stupid then.

Risking the McDavid era by spending less on goaltending than rebuilding teams do is a stupid strategy especially when Skinner has massive red flags in his game.

Now they want to pay out the ass for a "top four DEEEEE!!!!" when they mismanaged a cost controlled one in Broberg out of here like morons.

What move for a goalie would you make?

How would it be a guaruntee to be better than Skinner?

 

[unicornBLOOD]

True, but Stauffer was basically saying Provorov will be a Knight on deadline day.

they seem to get every guy they want.

 

[McHelpus]

they seem to get every guy they want.

Yup.

 

[McDoused]

What move for a goalie would you make?

How would it be a guaruntee to be better than Skinner?

I don't think their are any clear cut upgrades available over Skinner. The logic I've seen most fans use is that Skinner is a tandem goalie. He needs someone who can challenge him and split time (like Fleury does in Minnesota).

Pickard is a fantastic backup. Teams with true starters would love him. Having said that, I don't see a situation where if Skinner falters that Pickard can take over the role. He can give Skinner a night off but he's not being used in relief the same way Vancouver utilized Silovs against us last year.

 

[Scrapin Ice]

Kovalenko 3 points tonight. Grier looking good.

 

[OilerTitanFan]

After watching the wild, would you trade stu Skinner straight up for either goalie? Wild might throw in a 2nd on top to fleece the oilers.

Kovalenko 3 points tonight. Grier looking good.

Grief Weight Kovalenko line were outstanding against the Dallas stars in 1997. Scored the tying goal in Game 7.

 

[Mr Positive]

Kovalenko 3 points tonight. Grier looking good.

Grier has been doing an awesome job there. It started rough because he had veterans who needed to be moved but now that that's been dealt with he could start building

 

[Mr Positive]

Also if we had an RD trade brewing in the background it might be a good time to pull the trigger