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McTonyBrar

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Zone exit machine it looks like, recoveries need work. But if he's that solid with zone exits on a team with the short comings the Ducks have, there might really be a player here.
It's his first pass that has been great which is what we need. For some reason, Ducks aren't as high on him lol. This should be our #1 target.

I still can't believe Pagnotta said weeks ago that our #1 target is David Savard. What a joke
 
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Why does a team that's 3rd best in the league for goals against since the 3rd game of the season need "a big acquisition" anyway?
The Oilers need a 2nd pairing Dman and just as importantly real insurance just in case a top 4 Dman goes down. They aren't going into the postseason of a real Cup run with Stecher playing regular minutes in the top 6 (who is solid but more of a 7) and the guy off of waivers as their 7. The Dman market is more plentiful than the goalie market and will be moreso as more sellers emerge closer to the deadline so it's an obvious target and an obvious need for a Cup run.

I know you and others hate Skinner but he's going to be the guy they run with whether you like it or not. I do think they should add a goalie because you can never have enough goalies but I just don't think it's going to happen so top 4 Dman it is,
 

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Koskinen didn't play well in 3 of the 4 rounds in the playoffs.
Neither did Stuart Skinner lol.

Skinner was good in the Dallas series. That’s pretty much it. He sucked at the start of the Florida series and in the critical game 7 gave up a brutal goal on the game winning goal.
 
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Neither did Stuart Skinner lol.

Skinner was good in the Dallas series. That’s pretty much it. He sucked at the start of the Florida series and in the critical game 7 gave up a brutal goal on the game winning goal.
Guess we're f***ed then. :)

Anyway, Bowman could earn a lot of good press by acquiring a 2nd pairing D. Chasing anything more than a backup is pointless.
 

McTonyBrar

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Why does a team that's 3rd best in the league for goals against since the 3rd game of the season need "a big acquisition" anyway?
Because we want the Stanley Cup not a great friggin regular season. I didn't see Vegas or Florida stand pat when they won the Cup
 

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The Oilers need a 2nd pairing Dman and just as importantly real insurance just in case a top 4 Dman goes down. They aren't going into the postseason of a real Cup run with Stecher playing regular minutes in the top 6 (who is solid but more of a 7) and the guy off of waivers as their 7. The Dman market is more plentiful than the goalie market and will be moreso as more sellers emerge closer to the deadline so it's an obvious target and an obvious need for a Cup run.

I know you and others hate Skinner but he's going to be the guy they run with whether you like it or not. I do think they should add a goalie because you can never have enough goalies but I just don't think it's going to happen so top 4 Dman it is,

Yeah so get someone reasonable and affordable. We need someone Kulak tier not some massive splash.

As is our D is going to be capped out when Bouchard gets his extension anyway, Bouchard at somewhere between 8.5-10 and then Nurse at 9.25 doesn't leave a lot of money to spend, spend, spend on D.

I'm sorry but we have a defensive system that works, it worked last year under Knob, it worked in the playoffs, and it's been working this season minus a grace period of a couple of games right at the start of the year for a Cup hangover.

This is not a smart area to spend big assets on. The bigger fish you bring in the harder it is to resign said player too, people are just thinking about one year's cap, even if you could land a Provorov or Andersson, where is the $6.5+ mill for Provorov or 9+ mill for Andersson's extensions coming from?
 

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Guess we're f***ed then. :)

Anyway, Bowman could earn a lot of good press by acquiring a 2nd pairing D. Chasing anything more than a backup is pointless.
We probably are. I think it’s crazy they don’t appear to have any desire to upgrade on Pickard to get someone who can push Skinner for starts.
 

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Neither did Stuart Skinner lol.

Skinner was good in the Dallas series. That’s pretty much it. He sucked at the start of the Florida series and in the critical game 7 gave up a brutal goal on the game winning goal.

Skinner was only bad in the Vancouver series
 
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Because we want the Stanley Cup not a great friggin regular season. I didn't see Vegas or Florida stand pat when they won the Cup

Then spend on goaltending because that's the primary reason you don't have a 2024 Stanley Cup banner now.
 
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We probably are. I think it’s crazy they don’t appear to have any desire to upgrade on Pickard to get someone who can push Skinner for starts.
I don't think it's that huge of a priority. The duo aren't amazing but they get the job done.

And hey, maybe Pickard shuts out the Wild tonight. Wouldn't that be the story of the season.
 
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Skinner was only bad in the Vancouver series

Florida being gifted a 3-0 start meant no matter what they have like a 99% chance of winning the Cup.

If we had a goalie that could've held serve in any one of the first 3 games we probably win the Cup.

Skinner was horribad in the Vancouver series, we're lucky he didn't flush that series down the toilet because if they did you'd be getting taunted by dumb Canucks fans probably to this day of this site.
 
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There's no use reasoning with them. It's just blind hatred really, kinda silly to be that way but it is what it is.
I thought he was pretty inconsistent in the Kings series but that legendary performance in Game 4 made up for that IMO.
Legendary performance lmao. You Skinner homers are hilarious.

They did. They completely f***ed up. That's why we're paying for the "solution" not to play for us.
That doesn’t mean you just stop trying to make improvements.
 
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There's no use reasoning with them. It's just blind hatred really, kinda silly to be that way but it is what it is.
I thought he was pretty inconsistent in the Kings series but that legendary performance in Game 4 made up for that IMO.

He still put up a 2.59 GAA and .910 save percentage in the LA series despite some garbage time goals in game 1 hurting his stats. His stats in each series:

vs. LA - 2.59 GAA, .910 SV%
vs. VAN - 3.17 GAA, .833 SV%
vs. DAL - 1.91 GAA, .922 SV%
vs. FLA - 2.33 GAA, .909%

Listen, I know Skinner is wildly inconsistent and was pretty bad this year up until the most recent stretch. That doesn't mean he wasn't good for us in the playoffs last year. This is now a league where the average GAA and save percentage hovers around 3.00 and .900. Putting up the numbers Skinner did in the playoffs against some of the league's best offensive teams was impressive. You can't really ask for more from a goalie at his pay grade.

If our offence didn't disappear in 3 of the 7 finals games we are Stanley Cup champions.
 
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Legendary performance lmao. You Skinner homers are hilarious.


That doesn’t mean you just stop trying to make improvements.
The Oilers got as far as they did with Skinner. I'd rather see an Ekholm-type addition. I wouldn't trust the Oilers to actually scout a goalie since they haven't done so since Roloson.

If our offence didn't disappear in 3 of the 7 finals games we are Stanley Cup champions.
I mean this is it. Hard to win when you only score once or less. Certainly Bobrovsky played really well in game 1 but a true championship team finds a way.
 

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Legendary performance lmao. You Skinner homers are hilarious.
Yes it was. The Kings destroyed the Oilers in that game and they won 1-0 in a series that could have easily been 2-2 after that game.
That was one of the most lopsided Oilers playoff games I've ever seen against the Oilers that wound up being an Oilers win, well that and Game 6 vs. Dallas which Skinner also stole which was kind of a big game.

"Skinner homer". Hilarious, I've stated on many occasions that he was shit most of this season, said he was inconsistent in the Kings series yet you Skinner haters hate to acknowledge any good he does. I think it's unhealthy to dislike a player on your team that much especially a guy that has done some good in his time here.

To sum up. Yes, Skinner has been inconsistent, yes he lacks athleticism, yes he was terrible in his first playoffs and had his ups and downs the last playoffs (lots of ups in the last two series though and the Game 4 against the Kings as I mentioned) but some of you act is if he doesn't belong in the NHL or is just a backup. I think he's proven that he can be a #1 starter in this league albeit an inconsistent one.
 
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Soundwave

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They did. They completely f***ed up. That's why we're paying for the "solution" not to play for us.

If they're too stupid to find someone better than Jack Campbell, I guess the question then needs to be asked ... do you really as an organization deserve a Cup? On what basis exactly? Because other teams figure that out.
 

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and what happens when we have a bad game defensively? We need a goalie that can make saves when needed, not more of the same, but more expensive.


and Gibson will do any better here?
Heh, you definitely misunderstood me. When I said I didn't want anyone form that tire fire of a team, I meant Gibson as well. The team played bad in front of (Like real bad), but he wasn't great either. He's too big a risk at his cap and likely acquisition cost imo. Dostal on the other hand...
 

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Yes it was. The Kings destroyed the Oilers in that game and they won 1-0 in a series that could have easily been 2-2 after that game.
That was one of the most lopsided Oilers playoff games I've ever seen that wound up being an Oilers win, well that and Game 6 vs. Dallas which Skinner also stole which was kind of a big game.

"Skinner homer". Hilarious, I've stated on many occasions that he was shit most of this season, said he was consistent in the Kings series yet you Skinner haters hate to acknowledge any good he does. I think it's unhealthy to dislike a player on your team that much especially a guy that has done some good in his time here.

To sum up. Yes, Skinner has been inconsistent, yes he lacks athleticism, yes he was terrible in his first playoffs and had his ups and downs the last playoffs (lots of ups in the last two series though and the Game 4 against the Kings as I mentioned) but some of you act is if he doesn't belong in the NHL or is just a backup. I think he's proven that he can be a #1 starter in this league albeit an inconsistent one.
I think Skinner is a perfectly mediocre 1B who has far too many instances of horrid play along with having choked at key times in back to back playoffs. He’s been playing well the last couple weeks, hopefully he keeps it up.

I think it’s negligent that the Oilers aren’t looking to find someone more suited to stepping in over Pickard, should Skinner falter again in the playoffs.
 
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The other problem with our goaltending is what happens if Skinner ever suffers an injury?

Pickard was a guy in the AHL and has never played a ton of games. Rodrigue has 0 NHL experience.

We need at the very least another goalie in our system who has proven NHL experience even if it's like a freaking Matt Murray or someone.
A couple names I’ve wondered about are Chris Driedger and Kaapo Kahkonen. Both have NHL experience and have posted decent numbers in the past, both are in the AHL and frankly have atrocious numbers but I wonder if either could run with a last chance to get onto an NHL squad as a 1B. Both have a cheap cap hit and wouldn’t be expensive to acquire. The issue is both are in contenders systems and for the same reason you mentioned those teams likely want to hang onto their 3rd stringer in case of injuries.

Either could possibly be an option as a 1B and if they don’t seize it, easy enough to cut them loose. At some point we really need to get a look at Rodrigue or else he’ll end up being another prospect that’s jettisoned before we know what he is.
 

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Heh, you definitely misunderstood me. When I said I didn't want anyone form that tire fire of team, I meant Gibson as well. The team played bad in front of (Like real bad), but he wasn't great either. He's too big a risk at his cap and likely acquisition cost imo. Dostal on the other hand...

The time to get Dostal was last year, but of course this team is too lazy to be proactive on things like that. Now Dostal would cost a 1st + Savoie if the Ducks are even interested in selling.
 

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