Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: "Wheat Kings and Pretty Things, Let's See What The Expansion Draft Brings

[McShogun99]

... Use your head man. Keith has been Chicagos #1 for his whole career and he has had one bad season. Ladd has played 4 NHL games in 2 years. He's also been terrible in the AHL. What are you talking about?

I still think Holland should have waited until after the expansion draft to make this trade. There’s a chance that as we got closer to the deadline, Chicago would get more desperate to buy Kieth out or trade him with retention but we’ll never know because Holland blinked first.

 

[bobbythebrain]

you have the lost the plot junior. Comparing Ladd to Keith to like comparing me to Leonardo DiCaprio--just does not work.

Keith will be a good fit to the team, whether you like it or now

NO one is happy we gave up a pick--but Keith bring stuff that we have missed--leadership and experience--

and before you say he is done

Duncan Keith

he played a lot last season on a bad team and that has hurt his numbers--with the oilers he wont be asked to be the number 1 D--Nurse has that job and Keith is more than likely to play with Larsson(just a guess)--

How many games did Ladd play in the NHL this season? 1 game?

I'd be shocked if a single poster on here could name Chi #1 center last year without googling it.

They were a horrible team

 

[CycloneSweep]

The difference is not "2 2nds+2 3rds+Jones", Keith is not good.

I'd say the difference is close to that

 

[Mr Positive]

I still think Holland should have waited until after the expansion draft to make this trade. There’s a chance that as we got closer to the deadline, Chicago would get more desperate to buy Kieth out or trade him with retention but we’ll never know because Holland blinked first.

That's very true. When you see what has happened recently, it seems obvious that waiting might have given us more options.

The only defense of Holland is if we seriously believe that Seattle wanted Keith at full price. Also, that Keith is our guy. Better than the names that became available

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

So we give up assets to get a Duncan Keith contact.

Islanders have to give up assets to get RID of Andrew Ladds contract.

Seriously f*** this organization.

Yeah. And you had a sandwich for lunch while I was golfing. Ladd is total garbage. Keith is a legitimate NHL player.

 

[Jumptheshark]

that is interesting

 

[redgrant]

Yeah. And you had a sandwich for lunch while I was golfing. Ladd is total garbage. Keith is a legitimate NHL player.

Fml not for 5.5 giving up assets. Has the entire world gone crazy?

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I still think Holland should have waited until after the expansion draft to make this trade. There’s a chance that as we got closer to the deadline, Chicago would get more desperate to buy Kieth out or trade him with retention but we’ll never know because Holland blinked first.

What if he was picked in the expansion draft?

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Fml not for 5.5 giving up assets. Has the entire world gone crazy?

Yah you just compared Keith to Ladd. Who’s crazy?

 

[SK13]

Whether or not the deal works out, Duncan Keith played 24 minutes a game as his teams #1 defenseman last year. Andrew Ladd played exactly 1 game... with the AHL Bridgeport Tigers, after playing most of the 18-19 season with the Bridgeport Tigers.

You can dislike a trade without making stupid, disingenuous comparisons that ruin an entire page of this thread imo.

that is interesting

Eh. He lost the starters job after several years of decline to a 26 year old making less than a million.

5.8 million for two more years of sub .900 goaltending is... not ideal.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

What if he was picked in the expansion draft?

Then we don't waste 5.5 million cap space on Duncan Keith. Doesn't hurt us whatsoever.

 

[Jumptheshark]

just realized Quick is 35 on on 5.8 for 2 more years

 

[Jumptheshark]

Eh. He lost the starters job after several years of decline to a 26 year old making less than a million.

5.8 million for two more years of sub .900 goaltending is... not ideal.

just saw that--and realized I had lost the plot on him because I had not seen him play in 3 years

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Then we don't waste 5.5 million cap space on Duncan Keith. Doesn't hurt us whatsoever.

Holland wanted the player though.

 

[JordanGalhanth]

just saw that--and realized I had lost the plot on him because I had not seen him play in 3 years

The only time I ever saw him play was the double hat trick game back in March 2019. Nuge, Leon and Kass lit him up for 5 in the 1st period.

Boy was that game fun!

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Holland wanted the player though.

And I don't believe Holland should be employed by the Edmonton Oilers, I've been pretty vocal about that.

 

[The Safe Play]

Quick feels like a good Holland target. He's got veteran experience and cup rings and his contract bleeds into Nurse's extension. It's perfect!

 

[McDNicks17]

Quick is donezo.

 

[The Safe Play]

Quick is donezo.

Koskinen is top 10 nice!

 

[brentashton]

And I don't believe Holland should be employed by the Edmonton Oilers, I've been pretty vocal about that.

And you have made that point over and over and over in these recent threads. We get it. No need to keep saying it.

 

[Marty McSurly]

Quick feels like a good Holland target. He's got veteran experience and cup rings and his contract bleeds into Nurse's extension. It's perfect!

Guide and record book. Looks good, should definitely try to grab Quick

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

And I don't believe Holland should be employed by the Edmonton Oilers, I've been pretty vocal about that.

That’s fine I’m just saying why I think Holland did the trade before the ED.

 

[FunkyChicken]

From an Oilers perspective, I do not like. Assuming Kraken select him, Blues are likely going big game hunting for a winger which has a trickle down effect and increases the price of all UFA wingers.

 

[tabs]

I still think Holland should have waited until after the expansion draft to make this trade. There’s a chance that as we got closer to the deadline, Chicago would get more desperate to buy Kieth out or trade him with retention but we’ll never know because Holland blinked first.

That's very true. When you see what has happened recently, it seems obvious that waiting might have given us more options.

The only defense of Holland is if we seriously believe that Seattle wanted Keith at full price. Also, that Keith is our guy. Better than the names that became available

What difference would waiting have made in this scenario? Bowman is protecting Jones instead of Keith. There wasn’t an extra dman on the hawks that they were worried about losing like everyone was suggesting, so the ED deadline doesn’t change a thing for Bowman. Instead of Jones he would have protected Keith. Instead of Keith we would have protected Jones.

 

[SK13]

So Tarasenko is perhaps the Kraken's James Neal.