Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Savoie Gets an Audition With the Trade Deadline Looming

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Makes sense. They want to give their fans something to be excited about.

The also have 23 million in cap space to use if they want and it will go up to 28M by the deadline.
I mean sure, lots to spend on UFAs, but they're not a playoff team and won't be close.

They are in different development phases as organizations. Utah is early life cycle emerging out of extended rebuild. Cupboards are stacked with prospects and picks to leverage their future growth. St. Louis has been pivoting out of a late stage post Cup organization into a reset middle phase competitive build one. They're attempting this through strong draft and development and exploiting shitty cap management of another organization. They want to continue to pivot away from some of their remaining older players (30+ defenders all with no trade protection) and other positional areas, but it will require the market to reach their prices. No need to sell low.
I'm sure they are, the shackles of being the Yotes is gone, so they don't have to sell everything, but pretending they're going to compete for the playoffs is just silly frankly.
 
I mean sure, lots to spend on UFAs, but they're not a playoff team and won't be close.


I'm sure they are, the shackles of being the Yotes is gone, so they don't have to sell everything, but pretending they're going to compete for the playoffs is just silly frankly.
Silly is continuing to wallow unnecessarily in an entrenched loser mindset when you are resourced financially and stacked with assets to start to move into a competitive phase of play. All within a hungry new market poised to buy tickets and merchandise watching a competitive team emerge.
 
Silly is continuing to wallow unnecessarily in an entrenched loser mindset when you are resourced financially and stacked with assets to start to move into a competitive phase of play. All within a hungry new market poised to buy tickets and merchandise watching a competitive team emerge.
It's a brand new market, even a short playoff appearance would mean a ton for that city.
 
I said this in another thread, but it would be nice if the Oilers could pick up a couple of players for the bottom six that can drag the rest of the team into a fight. Feels like this team relies on McDavid and Draisaitl to do it every night. We never get a big game from anyone in the bottom six, and for the most part they just skate around for 60 minutes.
 
I mean sure, lots to spend on UFAs, but they're not a playoff team and won't be close.


I'm sure they are, the shackles of being the Yotes is gone, so they don't have to sell everything, but pretending they're going to compete for the playoffs is just silly frankly.

I have to disagree. Vancouver and Calgary aren't exactly running away with that last spot.
 
I said this in another thread, but it would be nice if the Oilers could pick up a couple of players for the bottom six that can drag the rest of the team into a fight. Feels like this team relies on McDavid and Draisaitl to do it every night. We never get a big game from anyone in the bottom six, and for the most part they just skate around for 60 minutes.

On the contrary, I feel like especially when the team is down, the coaches always overplay the top 6 and McDrai in particular. We just don’t get much value or results from the bottom 6 based on the way the coaches always allocate the ice time. Maybe they are just better off loading the top 6 with more expensive and better players and using cheap players on lines 3/4.
 
The only UFA they have that any value are probably Vejmelka, Bjugstad and Kerfoot.

Vejmelka would be a nice add from Edmonton point of view,

But I could see them just re-signing all of them.
Yeah, but it's more like the UFAs, (Bjugstad traded or not will just re-sign lol), but maybe they keep some of their other vets, but again, they should get assets and look for growth next year, they just don't have enough to get over, and I doubt they have enough cashe at this point in this year to convince anyone to come there.

Silly is continuing to wallow unnecessarily in an entrenched loser mindset when you are resourced financially and stacked with assets to start to move into a competitive phase of play. All within a hungry new market poised to buy tickets and merchandise watching a competitive team emerge.
Sure, but being realistic with your team and it's limitations, I'm not saying quit, but get some assets as well as "trying to make"

I've seen this movie before, it's just miserable to not make the playoffs, but to really try and then being no further ahead.
 
It's a brand new market, even a short playoff appearance would mean a ton for that city.
Just the process of playing meaningful games is valuable to this team's personnel that have been immersed in a flea market culture for over a decade. They have to nurture a winning mindset with stability at some point or you get stuck like current Buffalo Sabres and extended Oilers decade of darkness entrenched loser culture. Way more important than adding a couple of more middling picks to a stacked prospect system and draft collateral.

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I guess good lucks Yotes-Not-Yotes, I'm sure the push to finish 10th instead of 12th will be very exciting.

I was just going to say a bit earlier but stupid work got in the way again, Utah is 1 point behind the Blues and not many points out of a playoff spot. If Armstrong is reluctant to trade Binnington, Utah will be reluctant to deal Vejmelka. The only real option is Gibson unless Bowman has a royal flush hidden up his sleeve.
 
I was just going to say a bit earlier but stupid work got in the way again, Utah is 1 point behind the Blues and not many points out of a playoff spot. If Armstrong is reluctant to trade Binnington, Utah will be reluctant to deal Vejmelka. The only real option is Gibson unless Bowman has a royal flush hidden up his sleeve.
Yeah, that's a problem as well. I don't care about Binnington personally, but Vejmelka stuck in limbo sucks.
 
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I said this in another thread, but it would be nice if the Oilers could pick up a couple of players for the bottom six that can drag the rest of the team into a fight. Feels like this team relies on McDavid and Draisaitl to do it every night. We never get a big game from anyone in the bottom six, and for the most part they just skate around for 60 minutes.
You aren't wrong that our bottom 6 isn't good enough, but why not add to the top 6 which also isn't good enough? That would move a top 6 player down to the bottom 6 and you kill two birds with one stone.
 
Just the process of playing meaningful games is valuable to this team's personnel that have been immersed in a flea market culture for over a decade. They have to nurture a winning mindset with stability at some point or you get stuck like current Buffalo Sabres and extended Oilers decade of darkness entrenched loser culture. Way more important than adding a couple of more middling picks to a stacked prospect system and draft collateral.

@Jimmi McJenkins
You are right, I've also remember the Oilers going through the "Playing important games" at the end of the year to accomplish nothing. They have a new market, so fair, but pretending your team is somewhere it's not can limit the growth that needs to be affected in the offseason.

They aren't making the playoffs, they aren't deep enough.
 
I said this in another thread, but it would be nice if the Oilers could pick up a couple of players for the bottom six that can drag the rest of the team into a fight. Feels like this team relies on McDavid and Draisaitl to do it every night. We never get a big game from anyone in the bottom six, and for the most part they just skate around for 60 minutes.
For whatever reason, that seems to be something that's a very low priority by the coach/management. They seem content with soft players that avoid contact.

They don't even seem to care about it at the AHL level. Pretty much every veteran call-up option is like 5'9'' 170lbs.
 
Utah won’t make the playoffs, and while I’d love for them to bump out Vancouver / Calgary for the last spot, it would also mean no Vejmelka (assuming management even traded for him).

But I could see them not selling so they can sell hopium to the fans either way
 
You are right, I've also remember the Oilers going through the "Playing important games" at the end of the year to accomplish nothing. They have a new market, so fair, but pretending your team is somewhere it's not can limit the growth that needs to be affected in the offseason.

They aren't making the playoffs, they aren't deep enough.
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What's wrong with their depth? I'd swap our bottom six for theirs in two seconds.


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They're one leftie away from having a damn good 2nd+3rd pairing too.
 
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What's wrong with their depth? I'd swap our bottom six for theirs in two seconds.


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They're one leftie away from having a damn good 2nd+3rd pairing too.
I mean I would happily take Maatta, I think he'd be a great fit and they are building something, but they aren't likely landing a "big fish" at the deadline and that depth will hold them back. Again, they don't have to quit, but getting assets for players who might not be around or you don't actually want around going forward in the offseason and next year is a MUCH better plan.
 
I mean I would happily take Maatta, I think he'd be a great fit and they are building something, but they aren't likely landing a "big fish" at the deadline and that depth will hold them back. Again, they don't have to quit, but getting assets for players who might not be around or you don't actually want around going forward in the offseason and next year is a MUCH better plan.
Why not? They've got a bunch of cap and assets.

They're basically one top6 LWer and one top4 LD away from being as good as anyone else fighting for the playoffs on paper.
 
I would still take Saros if all it cost was Stuart and a sweetener

I find surprisingly that so many people are high on Saros.

Obviously I wish we had any upgrade over Skinner but I think with the Saros contract now, he’s pretty meh.

Maybe I am biased after watching Edmonton dump on Nashville over the years. I just don’t see him as a solution with what he is paid now.
 
Why not? They've got a bunch of cap and assets.

They're basically one top6 LWer and one top4 LD away from being as good as anyone else fighting for the playoffs on paper.
They'll have to over pay, and I suspect players see them like I see them. They'll play "meaningful games" right to the end of the year and finish 10th tops. They aren't good enough.
 

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