Rumor: R&P Thread | Oilers Sign G Samuel Jonsson (3-Years ELC), RW Quinn Hutson (2-Years, $875k AAV), LD Atro Leppanen (1-Year, $975k)

More of a shooter.

What I don't get is we why are burning ELC unless they think he's a better top six option than we have. lol Maybe this is just what it took to sign him, which is ok

Giving college kids guaranteed spots during a cup window is pretty clown world. Nothing against Hutson, but

This. Speaks to the hole the org finds itself in, with respect to injuries and organizational depth.

Pathetic.
Burning a year on the ELC is pretty much standard procedure for these type of signings. It is part of the package to get the kid to sign.

There is no guaranteed spot here. He simply goes on the roster for a few days. Then his ELC becomes a 1 year deal.

There are some possible advantages in doing this. There is a better chance that his second contract would be lower this way if he shows that he has potential and signs next off season than it would be after a second year where his numbers could well be much better. But if he does not show NHL potential your out of the contract after one year.
 
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Swayman would be a nice add and he's signed long term, but the Oilers may go hunting for other signed goalies like Saros or Binnington, and although Binnington has a M-NTC with a 14 team no trade list for the upcoming year, Saros has none so he could be easier to get but expensive and signed long term at $7.7/per starting next year. :dunno:
Agree that Saros could be another option. Predators have to figure out if they are a retool or rebuild team after cratering this season. I named Swayman because I things are extremely toxic with management, media and fans seemed to have turned on him. There's maybe a window to buy low on a prospective upper tier, young goaltender.

This playoff is a critical moment for this team's window. It likely reveals the state of their goaltending especially if Ekholm is out.
 
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If it isn’t the primary or premier league (which would be the top league) it stands that it would be the/a non primary, ergo, minor league.

Call it second tier if that makes
More sense to you. The second tier pro league in NA is the AHL it’s called the minor league.

Potato/Potatoe
No. And you pronounce "premier" wrong too. It's premi-eer, not pre-meer.
 
Won't disagree with the assessments, but no more buyouts please. Just finishing up the remnants of the Lucic fiasco (Neal), and then another 3 years of Campbell pain to the tune of over 6 million, on a team that needs all the precious cap space it can get.
That should have read trade/buy-out for Kane. Point is his real dollars contract is $4 million while his cap hit is $5.125 which tilts some value to moving or buying-out if this team needs to carve some financial savings if this becomes a lost playoff window year. The NHL cap is growing $8.5 million after next season to $104 million (after growing $7 million next year) so a one-year buy-out cost of $1,333,333 would be manageable. It's very different than Lucic or Campbell extended buy-outs but I appreciate your point. Oiler management groups(s) have had costly blunders.

I like Kane a fair bit. However I don't know what his relationship is like with his coach and management. Should this be a short, underwhelming lost window playoff year this management group may need to pivot with some changes. That requires money and assets.
 
Ottawa is a shining example of how a team can go from wandering the desert to finally making the dance and being a legit threat, by acquiring a good goalie. I think Buffalo should do the same thing instead of shuffling other deck chairs all the time. As for us, it will be same old.......
Buffalo literally had Ullmark and still missed the playoffs, so I don’t think goaltending is the biggest issue there.
 
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Buffalo literally had Ullmark and still missed the playoffs, so I don’t think goaltending is the biggest issue there.
That was quite a while back when he was young, before he blossomed in Boston. Ottawa traded for him after he was well seasoned and had his reputation. Goaltending remains the biggest issue in Buffalo IMO. If you don't think he is the biggest reason Ottawa made the playoffs this year, then we'll have to disagree.
 
That should have read trade/buy-out for Kane. Point is his real dollars contract is $4 million while his cap hit is $5.125 which tilts some value to moving or buying-out if this team needs to carve some financial savings if this becomes a lost playoff window year. The NHL cap is growing $8.5 million after next season to $104 million (after growing $7 million next year) so a one-year buy-out cost of $1,333,333 would be manageable. It's very different than Lucic or Campbell extended buy-outs but I appreciate your point. Oiler management groups(s) have had costly blunders.

I like Kane a fair bit. However I don't know what his relationship is like with his coach and management. Should this be a short, underwhelming lost window playoff year this management group may need to pivot with some changes. That requires money and assets.
The cap is going up exponentially this year and likely next, but we have some big contracts coming up. Drai will move up 6 mill, Bouchard will get a substantial raise, and the team will probably have to make a decision on Skinner this summer (dependent on playoff results), and go big game hunting for a goalie. I'm hoping Kane comes through these playoffs and then into next year, as a unique piece of skill, skating and truculence.
 
That was quite a while back when he was young, before he blossomed in Boston. Ottawa traded for him after he was well seasoned and had his reputation. Goaltending remains the biggest issue in Buffalo IMO. If you don't think he is the biggest reason Ottawa made the playoffs this year, then we'll have to disagree.
He was good in Buffalo too before he signed in Boston.

I didn’t say anything about Ottawa; I agree with you there.

But I disagree with what you said about Buffalo.
 
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He was good in Buffalo too before he signed in Boston.

I didn’t say anything about Ottawa; I agree with you there.

But I disagree with what you said about Buffalo.
He was good there, but the Sabres were a shit team with nowhere near the talent they have now. If not goaltending, then what do you believe the issue in Buffalo is? Because I see them as a very similar type of team as Ottawa before this year.
 
Saros or Sorokin this offseason are my dream targets

Saros has had an awful year by every measure and his eight-year contract begins next season for nearly $8 million per. Sorokin is as sure a bet as I've ever seen to play well, since he's pretty much never had a bad season. And he only makes slightly more than Saros but with one year less on his contract. Has a .921 career save percentage in the postseason too. Not sure we can afford him though.
 
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He was good there, but the Sabres were a shit team with nowhere near the talent they have now. If not goaltending, then what do you believe the issue in Buffalo is? Because I see them as a very similar type of team as Ottawa before this year.
It’s an overused buzzword, but the biggest issue in Buffalo is culture.

It was also the biggest issue in Edmonton during the DoD.
 
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The cap is going up exponentially this year and likely next, but we have some big contracts coming up. Drai will move up 6 mill, Bouchard will get a substantial raise, and the team will probably have to make a decision on Skinner this summer (dependent on playoff results), and go big game hunting for a goalie. I'm hoping Kane comes through these playoffs and then into next year, as a unique piece of skill, skating and truculence.
That's part of the point with the Kane buy-out. Next season his cap hit is $5.125 million but actual salary is $4 million. They can carve out cap savings next season through buy-out. The penance is in two years a one-year $1.333 million cap hit on a $104 million salary cap.

My preference is a healthy Kane bringing a heavy, productive game for this team. I like the player a fair bit which I've consistently stated. However if this is a short playoff and they want/need to retool moving Kane might be a viable option.
 
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It’s an overused buzzword, but the biggest issue in Buffalo is culture.

It was also the biggest issue in Edmonton during the DoD.
Yup. It's turnstile management groups that steadily erode talent. Culmination is Kevyn Adams sewering the last GM and toadying the gig through access to ownership. Throwing a Hail Mary pass to an old, retreaded coach to magically change the culture wasn't going to deliver a quick fix.

They need a deeply experienced senior hockey management guy to come in and stabilize the franchise while building out a comprehensive hockey ops plan for short-term, medium-term, and long-term. Too often they slip into chaos, reaction mode and panic which leaks their young pedigree talent.
 
Guaranteeing a spot to a player caused injuries? Please tell me how that makes sense?
In the sense that I’d give playing time to depth players who might need to be relied on in the playoffs. That’s said given all the current injuries, these would be players that would be so far from potentially being called up in the playoffs. In the end it probably doesn’t matter.
 
Burning a year on the ELC is pretty much standard procedure for these type of signings. It is part of the package to get the kid to sign.

There is no guaranteed spot here. He simply goes on the roster for a few days. Then his ELC becomes a 1 year deal.

There are some possible advantages in doing this. There is a better chance that his second contract would be lower this way if he shows that he has potential and signs next off season than it would be after a second year where his numbers could well be much better. But if he does not show NHL potential your out of the contract after one year.
Yes. That is how these contracts work.
 
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Saros or Sorokin this offseason are my dream targets
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Buffalo literally had Ullmark and still missed the playoffs, so I don’t think goaltending is the biggest issue there.
Look at his numbers in Buffalo. He kept that team from being much worse. I wanted us to sign him so bad as a UFA but we still had a year left of Koskinen so I guess the team thought we didn’t need a goaltending upgrade.
 
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What I hate about playing the Kings is that they play us really physical and the refs let them get away with a lot. There’s we end up with our top players having to play thru injuries the rest of the way.

Yup. King’s Stanley Cup the last few years was cheap-shotting Oilers players to prevent them from winning the real one
 

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