Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | All Star Break Edition

[LevelingSolo]

I don't have Twitter but is Stauffer the best to follow for any Oilers related credible trade rumor/leaks etc?

 

[unicornBLOOD]

Our Hagel/Paul was Kostin

Hagel and Paul are sooooooo much better, more complete players than Kostin. Paul would of been such a great pick up.

 

[Paralyzer]

I don't have Twitter but is Stauffer the best to follow for any Oilers related credible trade rumor/leaks etc?

Seravelli, Dreger, Lebrun and Friedman are the best for solid rumors. The rest usually get it from these guys.

 

[Soundwave]

Hagel and Paul are sooooooo much better, more complete players than Kostin. Paul would of been such a great pick up.

Having good management is a massive cheat code.

 

[Jet Walters]

I’d give a 1st+ for Dowd and Lindgren at 50%. That clears more cap space for another addition and they’d be here for next year too. Lindgren is having a great season and is in the wheelhouse as a 1B tandem with Skinner. It’s not sexy, but it’s the type of move that could really help.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

I don't have Twitter but is Stauffer the best to follow for any Oilers related credible trade rumor/leaks etc?

ya, him, Reshaug. Bob drops more names and hints on his daily radio show, than he does in tweets.

Having good management is a massive cheat code.

Tampa has all that going for them, warm climate, no state tax, good team/organization, no crazy media. Great scouts, pro and amateur, identified the guys they wanted, and went and got them. Hagel and Paul have been great fits with that team.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

I’d give a 1st+ for Dowd and Lindgren at 50%. That clears more cap space for another addition and they’d be here for next year too. Lindgren is having a great season and is in the wheelhouse as a 1B tandem with Skinner. It’s not sexy, but it’s the type of move that could really help.

seems steep to me. especially if Skinner can continue to the man. Lindgren is more than likely walking when the season is done, so it could end up being, Dowd for a 1st plus, as the back up goalie, hopefully never comes into play.

Seravelli, Dreger, Lebrun and Friedman are the best for solid rumors. The rest usually get it from these guys.

Those are the best guys in the biz for sure, but I find Bob hears stuff about the Oil well before the big boys take any notice.

 

[mkatcherin00]

Anything new from Stauffer today?

I just found out this week he's not on in the afternoon anymore lol.

 

[Draiskull]

One pending UFA who will be a clear upgrade over Ceci is Matt Roy. It would just need to be a 3way deal with LA not knowing that he will end up an Oiler.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

I guess it comes down on how we define "need." Sure we are comparable to the defenses of some cup winners, but we'd be one of the worst of that list. We would only be better than the 2017 Pens, and that was a rarity we won't see often.

I really feel Ceci is very underrated by many. Would love another D to add to our depth, preferably a guy about Kulak's level or a bit better, and someone who has a bit of a dimension to him (puck mover and/or hard to play against). I don't see a clear upgrade on Ceci, not without breaking the bank.

 

[Soundwave]

ya, him, Reshaug. Bob drops more names and hints on his daily radio show, than he does in tweets.


Tampa has all that going for them, warm climate, no state tax, good team/organization, no crazy media. Great scouts, pro and amateur, identified the guys they wanted, and went and got them. Hagel and Paul have been great fits with that team.

Good management is such a big cheat code in hockey because it's much harder to build a good team with all the different variables in hockey.

In basketball, I think you could probably just get away with a front office smart enough to tank/acquire two great players and you're basically 70% of the way there to a championship, maybe even multiple championships.

Much harder in the NHL. Not sure how it goes for baseball or football.

They have that going for them and then on top of that a warm weather market with nice beaches all year round.

 

[alphahelix]

Seravelli, Dreger, Lebrun and Friedman are the best for solid rumors. The rest usually get it from these guys.

Thats usually good for when things are actually breaking. But some of the local guys (mainly Stauffer) sometimes have a sniff of things while they’re still developing, he usually drops hints before a deal is actually done.

 

[Jet Walters]

seems steep to me. especially if Skinner can continue to the man. Lindgren is more than likely walking when the season is done, so it could end up being, Dowd for a 1st plus, as the back up goalie, hopefully never comes into play.


Those are the best guys in the biz for sure, but I find Bob hears stuff about the Oil well before the big boys take any notice.

Lindgren is also signed through next year. You get both at 50% and that allows more roster flexibility. Even with a Campbell buyout the Oilers would be spending under 5m cap for a Skinner/Lindgren duo.

 

[Soundwave]

Lindgren is also signed through next year. You get both at 50% and that allows more roster flexibility. Even with a Campbell buyout the Oilers would be spending under 5m cap for a Skinner/Lindgren duo.

My guess is it would only be retention on one of the two of those guys not both. Retaining on both would mean 2/3 of their retention slots are tied up through next year as well just in this one deal, probably not the smartest thing for them to do.

 

[5 14 6 1]

This team is really going to have to trade for expiring contracts and explore getting a 2nd retention on those.

2.4M could get you a 9M dollar player double retained. There is quite a bit of play room there.

I don't have Twitter but is Stauffer the best to follow for any Oilers related credible trade rumor/leaks etc?

Yeah, I would say so. He doesn't really leak anything but he speculates an awful lot for an OEG employee

 

[Pucklington]

Crazy idea.

Broberg for Kakko.

Gives Edmonton depth at forward and a player who can potentially grow into top line potential.

NYR saves on salary and gets NHL defenseman with top 4 potential.

Edmonton may need to include a 3rd, but feel value is relatively close this far after draft.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

One pending UFA who will be a clear upgrade over Ceci is Matt Roy. It would just need to be a 3way deal with LA not knowing that he will end up an Oiler.

Is he though? I don't see it, maybe a slight upgrade, but not much IMO. Let's say you could move Ceci and a pick/prospect for Roy, does he fit in well enough with the team to make it worth while with the subtraction of Ceci, who seems to a popular team member, especially in the dressing room. I'm not against improving the team, but so much has to be considered when making moves, especially the ones where people are leaving the team. Last year, Ekholm for Barrie, both great guys, from all reports. Ekholm is a clear upgrade, especially when it comes to the type of D man that the Oil needed. Barrie, seemed to be VERY popular with his teammates, so you know it was a loss in some way to the team. The year before they went further with Barrie, then they did Ekholm, did Ekholm hold them back, did the change in team chemistry have anything to do with their results?? probably not, but who really knows. At this point in the time, the team is rolling, as long as they stay healthy, and keep it up, is it worth making any major moves, the ones that might affect team chemistry? I'm not sure. One thing is for sure, IMO, it has to be a CLEAR upgrade on Ceci if they are moving him out.

Crazy idea.

Broberg for Kakko.

Gives Edmonton depth at forward and a player who can potentially grow into top line potential.

NYR saves on salary and gets NHL defenseman with top 4 potential.

Edmonton may need to include a 3rd, but feel value is relatively close this far after draft.

I don't hate it.

Lindgren is also signed through next year. You get both at 50% and that allows more roster flexibility. Even with a Campbell buyout the Oilers would be spending under 5m cap for a Skinner/Lindgren duo.

I didn't realize Lindgren had one more year. That does add to his value as well. If there was some way that Campbell could be part of the deal, and the Oil don't have to give up too much, wishful thinking for sure.

 

[LTIR]

Is he though? I don't see it, maybe a slight upgrade, but not much IMO. Let's say you could move Ceci and a pick/prospect for Roy, does he fit in well enough with the team to make it worth while with the subtraction of Ceci, who seems to a popular team member, especially in the dressing room. I'm not against improving the team, but so much has to be considered when making moves, especially the ones where people are leaving the team. Last year, Ekholm for Barrie, both great guys, from all reports. Ekholm is a clear upgrade, especially when it comes to the type of D man that the Oil needed. Barrie, seemed to be VERY popular with his teammates, so you know it was a loss in some way to the team. The year before they went further with Barrie, then they did Ekholm, did Ekholm hold them back, did the change in team chemistry have anything to do with their results?? probably not, but who really knows. At this point in the time, the team is rolling, as long as they stay healthy, and keep it up, is it worth making any major moves, the ones that might affect team chemistry? I'm not sure. One thing is for sure, IMO, it has to be a CLEAR upgrade on Ceci if they are moving him out.


I don't hate it.


I didn't realize Lindgren had one more year. That does add to his value as well. If there was some way that Campbell could be part of the deal, and the Oil don't have to give up too much, wishful thinking for sure.

I dont looks at fancier stats but the eye test to me shows Roy is a legit top 4 Dman. The guy was a pain to play against in playoffs. I actually like Ceci and see him as our best RHD overall but Roy seems to be everything Ceci plus more.

 

[alphahelix]

As much as the “Broberg situation” is problematic…. It’s also a solution. Sure, we’ve been healthy — but that wont last forever. Hes a high quality cost controlled 7th D, if we didnt have him we’d be out spending assets to acquire a worse version of him at the TDL.

plus he has the major bonus of potentially being a top 4 player for this team next year when he is no longer waiver exempt, assuming he shows well When he gets the chance.

 

[Draiskull]

Crazy idea.

Broberg for Kakko.

Gives Edmonton depth at forward and a player who can potentially grow into top line potential.

NYR saves on salary and gets NHL defenseman with top 4 potential.

Edmonton may need to include a 3rd, but feel value is relatively close this far after draft.

Broberg should get one more NHL stint before making a swap like this.

 

[Biltmore]

Anything new from Stauffer today?

Pizza's on the way...

 

[Pucklington]

Broberg should get one more NHL stint before making a swap like this.

I would rather they keep him. I think he'll be a good player but if they want forward depth this would help team now and in future.

Kakko puts up decent defensive numbers, and has untapped offense.

It is the one trade that includes Broberg that I think both teams could end up satisfied.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I would rather they keep him. I think he'll be a good player but if they want forward depth this would help team now and in future.

Kakko puts up decent defensive numbers, and has untapped offense.

It is the one trade that includes Broberg that I think both teams could end up satisfied.

Or doesn't have any at the NHL level, that's a very real possibility.

 

[belair]

Hagel and Paul are sooooooo much better, more complete players than Kostin. Paul would of been such a great pick up.

Which year? I was suggesting him since he was in junior. The year he went to Tampa was the year we should've traded Puljujarvi for him.

 

[K1984]

I’d give a 1st+ for Dowd and Lindgren at 50%. That clears more cap space for another addition and they’d be here for next year too. Lindgren is having a great season and is in the wheelhouse as a 1B tandem with Skinner. It’s not sexy, but it’s the type of move that could really help.

I wouldn't because there is no control of Lindgren after next year. A 1st is a lot for two depth players, neither of which you have control over when their deals are done.

I'd do a 1st if Lindgren was RFA, but he isn't so not a fan.