Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)
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Der Jaeger
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I floated Olofsson (50%) and Fitzgerald to Nashville for Fabbro and Jankowski. Nashville fans thought it was good value wise but not sure if they needed Olofsson. But their PP is bad and they could use a LH shot. So maybe.
Doug Prishpreed
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If they shared these opinions on here, they'd be insulted by posters.
Maybe they'll be allured by his draft pedigree.
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Blue Jackets are another team who needs scoring desperately.
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VO at half retained could get a 2nd at the deadline, easy. Maybe the same for Mitts...and I wouldn't be happy with a 2nd for Mitts so no point in trading him.
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Gerstmann 3:16
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also wouldnt surprise me if VO has no value, let alone a second
think about it from the Sabres perspective, if they went out and spent a 2nd on a 1 dimensional PP specialist with 3g/5p, you'd go balistic
mitts maybe a second, again why would you pay more for a PP specialist, at least Mitts produces in the role
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Not sure Vic gets a 2nd easily. Vatrano went for a 4th and has better 5-on-5 impacts last year. Vic's disappearance at 5-on-5 makes that second year less tenable, especially with what remains a relatively flat cap.
WhereAreTheCookies
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He seemed fine with Girgensons and Krebs, but his games where he was lined up with Mittelstadt and VO were terrible, and not just for him but for that entire line. Whatever was working for them last season certainly wasn't working this season.
Mittelstadt and VO haven't lit the world on fire away from one another, but together they have been a train wreck and Asplund wasn't changing that, no one was. Those 2 clearly needed to be separated but with 3 other lines working Granato likely chose to live with the negative impact there for the positive impact of the other lines.
Der Jaeger
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If Adams can move Olofsson, I think a 3rd line of Mittelstadt, Krebs, Jost, Asplund (some combination) could work. Forecheck and focus on defense, score some opportunistic goals.
The late 1990s Sabres had lines and players like that. Holzinger, Brown, Rasmussen, Primeau, etc. were just really good at keeping pressure on, playing defense, and scoring hard working goals.
Yes, I can think of a few haha.
Glad to hear that Marty and Duffer are quite honest and real on this.
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Gerstmann 3:16
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this is where we are at, the rest of the roster is filling out and this is the 3 slots that still havent figured it out
I would give mitts another look with an upgraded winger cast but I think hes the only guy with any real value on that line anyway and with Krebs and the last years draft already hovering around, Im just perfectly fine giving him an opportunity to blossom on a different roster
I'd be perfectly fine with them just going out and finding a bunch of defensively solid low offense players to back fill it for a year or 2. With the Thompson line exploding, the kids looking like contributors (tough go lately), and the points coming out of the blueline, they can survive for a few years while the kulich/rosens develop. Additionally, I make absolutely sure Lafrenier doesn't get traded to a low bidder. Make sure Drury knows where our point of interest is.
The big issue right now is that Granato keeps benching Turks and Quinn and it forces mitts and VO on the ice.
Funny how Marty takes the angle of "play the top D-men all you want, they can handle it". Sounds like he's still in the over-confident mentality of a mid-20s player that thinks they can do everything all the time. He's fine with the various combos on the 3rd pair playing only 12 mins, yet all those guys have the worst +/- despite the least minutes played of the group. They've been bad enough that lately any 3rd pair combo is getting 10 mins or less.
A trade is not necessarily the answer because it just depends who is out there and the price, but going status quo is IMO just not good enough. Maybe a good trade doesn't present itself, but if so acknowledge that the D-corps isn't deep enough and any one injury to the top four really hurts any playoff chances they still have.
I certainly don't agree with Marty there, a move probably is needed if they're serious about playoffs. However, I do agree with his assessment that Clague has surpassed any of the third-pairing guys and that Fitzgerald should be exposed to waivers to create a roster spot when needed.
My thought is that a trade could really help balance out the pairings so we're not burning out our top 4 this much. At some point, we're going to see true fatigue set in and it'll get ugly. We might be seeing signs of it with Samuelsson and Dahlin of late. While they've still been good, there are some chinks in the armor.
If I'm reading Brian Duff's comments correctly, he'd be a fan of grabbing a guy like Chychrun for that exact reason. To allow them another pairing that can be trusted and play more than 12 minutes a night, as it's clear that Boosh, Bryson, Fitz, and Pilut haven't been up to the task. Adding another quality piece would allow guys like Clague and Jokiharju to take third-pairing minutes and be able to handle the minutes better.
Sorry for the extra wordy post, looking to keep my mind busy today. The last thing I'll say is that you can just feel the difference when our third pairing is on the ice. They consistently get run over and kill momentum. Bryson for example just seems to make the wrong play in the offensive zone most of the time. I'm sure this is a problem for a lot of (bad) teams around the league, as it's hard to find 6 strong d-men. But, we have the cap room/structure to have the luxury of three strong pairings, with at least two being anchored by #1 overall studs. I see no reason not to go get a legit top 4 guy, just to solidify the group and give them meaningful depth. Losing Fitzgerald or Bryson along the way is no big deal in the grand scheme of things, especially when guys like Clague are available every offseason.
Agree. Yes Clague has been better than the others but as Duff sort of responded at one point..."it's Clague". He's been a good filler in a pinch but should be filling in on the 3rd pair, not 2nd. It's the best answer under the circumstances but it's proof that the circumstances should be different.
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Asplund will be a RFA and won't cost much. With him I think you sign him to a cheap one year deal and hope you get last years version of him (which was a welcome contribution as one of our few forwards with good defensive impacts) rather than this year's crummy version. Also he has no trade value.
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WhereAreTheCookies
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LA would be crazy to make that trade. Think about it from their perspective.
A one dimensional forward who doesn't play well 5v5, a depth Dman, a depth forward, and a 2nd for a serviceable 3rd pairing RD, a solid 200 foot winger on a good deal, and a former top 5 pick who's still only 21 years old. Why would they consider that?
IDK. Went to Wings board and he in the middle between Rasmussen and Perron at practice.
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Maybe its all our stuff for one of those from LA
I was wondering that as well. Don't think LA would move Iafallo alone for that package
everyone who opposed a VO trade this offseason should be really pissed at themselves. Hes taking up valuable icetime that Asplund could have to balance out the lineup much better. Yea he cant score, but atleast hes not 1/3 of the worst line in hockey. Oloffson had value. Now he has none.
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