Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[Der Jaeger]

I wonder if Larkin’s lack of effort late in the last game is indicative of anything. If he wants out Adams should be first in line.

 

[Fezzy126]

Comrie to Roch for conditioning.

 

[jc17]

I wonder if Larkin’s lack of effort late in the last game is indicative of anything. If he wants out Adams should be first in line.

If we're talking big rumor mill names, I'd be heavy in the Lafreniere sweepstakes. The price seems absurdly low on the trade forum. I know we want experience, but the thought of him in Don's system makes the potential for a heist.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

I wonder if Larkin’s lack of effort late in the last game is indicative of anything. If he wants out Adams should be first in line.

On the contrary, wouldn't lack of effort in that situation be exactly what we want to avoid?

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Its not uncommon for a young center to get help like this at the start of their career. Cozens had Okposo for decent stretches last season for that reason.

im not saying hes being developed poorly im just saying i dont think hes that good

 

[ValJamesDuex]

On the contrary, wouldn't lack of effort in that situation be exactly what we want to avoid?

you also have two surplus forward in the press box already. I dont see Yzerman trading any big name in conference.

Laf is intriguing, I wonder if Arizona would bite in a Chychrun deal (although rumored to want picks) ? Again I don't see the Rangers trading in conference.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

If we're talking big rumor mill names, I'd be heavy in the Lafreniere sweepstakes. The price seems absurdly low on the trade forum. I know we want experience, but the thought of him in Don's system makes the potential for a heist.

thats what interests me it sounds like they're just completely willing to cut bait and chase a cup

i also think drury is a strange operator and it also wouldnt surprise me if he buries him and doesnt do anything for 2 seasons

 

[Fezzy126]

If we're talking big rumor mill names, I'd be heavy in the Lafreniere sweepstakes. The price seems absurdly low on the trade forum. I know we want experience, but the thought of him in Don's system makes the potential for a heist.

At a minimum I would think he commands something similar to the Dach trade - i.e. top 10(ish) pick. Perhaps they'd also look at a hockey trade, but I'm not sure that's something we'd do.

On one hand, I look at the Rangers history of drafting, and I'd be questioning their development department given that I've really liked many of these kids as prospects. I mean their hit rate looks really bad.

The other part is that players coming out of the Q have been really suspect over the past decade. Outside of mid round flyers, it's a league that I tend to avoid on draft weekend. Laf just looks like the latest in a long line of players from that league that didn't pan out.

 

[Bendium]

I don't think one of Mitts/VO are on this team to start next season.

I am 100% sure VO will be gone before or at the deadline. Up until this year I have liked VO in general, but other players have surpassed him in the positions he is good at. He is not good enough to prioritize building a line around him to maximize his production (like Tage and Tuch do for Skinner.) He does not fit into any of the remaining available roles, and he does not play the playoff brand of hockey he would need to hold down an unprotected top 9 role.

To a contender with protected room in the bottom 6 and a need for more PP production, he likely has at least a 2nd round pick value at this deadline. Might be even a 1st if you take a dead weight cap hit back in the trade and add in a low round pick. His value will never be higher than this deadline. He will be gone.

Mitts. I think they will play him the rest of this year at left wing, simplifying his decision making versus the responsibilities at center, and see if the change in role lets him find his way like it did for Tage. I believe he has the same problem that Risto had, in that the mental processing component of quickness is the limitation, so reducing how much needs to be processed to react will improve play. (Note: I am in no way implying that Mitts is dumb, so don't go there.) I don't think he is actively being shopped, but I also thing they would not hesitate to move him in a package for a known better asset.

 

[Jim Bob]

Chychrun at the draft. I think Buffalo is leading the offer for him.
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On 32 Thoughts, EF made it sound like LA is the closest to getting Chychrun and the issue is that the Yotes wants 2 1sts+ and LA is offering up 1 1st+. That second 1st (or former 1st round pick that is developing well) is the gap in the talks.

EF thinks that if Chychrun keeps playing like he has that Rob Blake may give the Yotes what they want to land him.

I cannot see Adams giving up 23 BUF 1st, one of [Rosen, Savoie, Ostlund, or Kulich], and something else like Jokiharju to get Chychrun.

 

[jc17]

thats what interests me it sounds like they're just completely willing to cut bait and chase a cup

i also think drury is a strange operator and it also wouldnt surprise me if he buries him and doesnt do anything for 2 seasons

The problem is that we don't have much cup chasing assets, unless they want VO for PP help, but I'm not sure he's a huge upgrade to Laf. They are bottom half in PP% though. Or if they want truculence on the Goodrow wavelength maybe they want Girgs as the roster player with prospect or picks to even out the value.

At a minimum I would think he commands something similar to the Dach trade - i.e. top 10(ish) pick. Perhaps they'd also look at a hockey trade, but I'm not sure that's something we'd do.

On one hand, I look at the Rangers history of drafting, and I'd be questioning their development department given that I've really liked many of these kids as prospects. I mean their hit rate looks really bad.

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The other part is that players coming out of the Q have been really suspect over the past decade. Outside of mid round flyers, it's a league that I tend to avoid on draft weekend. Laf just looks like the latest in a long line of players from that league that didn't pan out.

People are suggesting he's not even worth a 1st. Seems debatable, but I don't know that a top 10 would be necessary.

He pretty firmly destroyed the Q, and showed up at the WJC. He's 21 and at a 40 point pace with limited PP time. I have a hard time chalking up his struggles to coming out of the Q.

Top 6 point producing Q guys the last 15 years, in order, are Laf, Drouin, mackinnon, PLD, Couturier, Ehlers, Hischier. Drouin is really the only miss out of the elites in that league.

I don't know, it just seems to me the upside is very high, and the downside is still a solid NHLer. Doesn't seem like Rangers fans even dislike him that much. This comes across as a once in a decade buy-low situation

 

[Diaspora]

Like Sammy, those guys won't necessarily get huge contracts but teams hold onto them pretty tightly. You'd have to find a guy that's undervalued on his current team, homegrown or hope that a team is having a fire sale. Maybe there's an NCAA guy without NHL rights?

One of the Russians might be developed this way, but they wouldn't be available or ready for about 2.5 years.

 

[Matt Ress]

One of the Russians might be developed this way, but they wouldn't be available or ready for about 2.5 years.

Novi!!! That would be awesome

 

[joshjull]

im not saying hes being developed poorly im just saying i dont think hes that good

Fair enough

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

The problem is that we don't have much cup chasing assets, unless they want VO for PP help, but I'm not sure he's a huge upgrade to Laf. They are bottom half in PP% though. Or if they want truculence on the Goodrow wavelength maybe they want Girgs as the roster player with prospect or picks to even out the value.


People are suggesting he's not even worth a 1st. Seems debatable, but I don't know that a top 10 would be necessary.

He pretty firmly destroyed the Q, and showed up at the WJC. He's 21 and at a 40 point pace with limited PP time. I have a hard time chalking up his struggles to coming out of the Q.

Top 6 point producing Q guys the last 15 years, in order, are Laf, Drouin, mackinnon, PLD, Couturier, Ehlers, Hischier. Drouin is really the only miss out of the elites in that league.

I don't know, it just seems to me the upside is very high, and the downside is still a solid NHLer. Doesn't seem like Rangers fans even dislike him that much. This comes across as a once in a decade buy-low situation

I'd reference a previous poster who brought up a 3-way deal

I'd think the only way Buffalo is a serious player in a Lafr swap is if the Rangers see Mitts as someone who could reliably score on the pp and play in the bottom 6 for a cup run, basically his role in Buffalo and the Sabres are adding a competitive pick

honeslty im also starting to feel bullish about the season as a whole and the 1st rounder is becoming a little bit more available then it was a month ago

 

[BG82]

If we're talking big rumor mill names, I'd be heavy in the Lafreniere sweepstakes. The price seems absurdly low on the trade forum. I know we want experience, but the thought of him in Don's system makes the potential for a heist.

What Lafreniere gonna command?

 

[jc17]

What Lafreniere gonna command?

Well I have no idea to be honest. Again, trade boards make it sound cheap, but we know how that goes, probably not reality.

I'm not sure what rangers fans want but its probably something between that and the main board saying less than a first.

 

[Der Jaeger]

On the contrary, wouldn't lack of effort in that situation be exactly what we want to avoid?

Maybe. But it’s worth looking at.

 

[Djp]

what's Hino's contract ? Could trade him at the deadline and open it up to Jost or someone else.

Hino is a UFA after this year at 1.7M. Thry coukd trade Hino. Thry can not trade Jost as an in season waiver claim.

n thr press box is Asplund snd Hino.

if thry are think of carrying 3 G then moves might need to be made

if they acquire a D then Bryson/Fitz go the other way

some teams looking fir F depth coukd have interest in Hinostroza.
A player like Asplund could be traded to a rebuilding to like arizona .

if they are thinking of a F they could trade Asplund+ Olofsson in a separate deal for a D

I wonder if Larkin’s lack of effort late in the last game is indicative of anything. If he wants out Adams should be first in line.

Larkin just came back from being out with an injury and this was the 2nd of B2B.

i don’t see buffalo in the rental market and is not in the high end UFA market this summer.

if they pay Cozens a short 2-3 yr bridge and give Power a bridge in 24 For 2-3 yrs then a high contract for those players could create short term cap space for a 3-4 yr UFA contract. Then they could be in that market for signing a Horvat/ Larkin to a short high contract of 3 yrs at $25M.

 

[The Blunder Years]

I wonder if Larkin’s lack of effort late in the last game is indicative of anything. If he wants out Adams should be first in line.

Love Larkin but idk how I would feel about that move. We shouldn’t break up the top 6 and I would be against trading really good assets for Larkin to play on the 3rd line

 

[NotABadPeriod]

So here's the question: when Comrie is back up, do you waive Hino to make room? Can't send UPL down at this point. I think Hino is the more likely waiver fodder than Asplund.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

So here's the question: when Comrie is back up, do you waive Hino to make room? Can't send UPL down at this point. I think Hino is the more likely waiver fodder than Asplund.

I wouldn't hate that move. Maybe Anderson can pull a super savvy veteran move and "strain a groin" in practice.

Edit - KA most likely does the boring thing and sends UPL down.

 

[Jim Bob]

Well I have no idea to be honest. Again, trade boards make it sound cheap, but we know how that goes, probably not reality.

I'm not sure what rangers fans want but its probably something between that and the main board saying less than a first.

I saw a Rangers reporter suggest they want a 1st or a recent 1st round prospect for him.

No thanks.

 

[Zman5778]

So here's the question: when Comrie is back up, do you waive Hino to make room? Can't send UPL down at this point. I think Hino is the more likely waiver fodder than Asplund.

I'd see if KA could get something for Hino at 50% retained. Gotta think some team would love that and would give up a late rounder.

 

[Chainshot]

I saw a Rangers reporter suggest they want a 1st or a recent 1st round prospect for him.

No thanks.

Just like how they wanted similar value for Lias Andersson. Just wait and watch that value tank too.