Roster thread: Get To Work (2022-2023 Season)

[toddkaz]

a bit of context:
the last game he was under 0.900 was at the start of the winning streak since then
2 GP with 0.903 and 2 GP with over 0.950
and its .892 atm

Add to that to be fair the Buffalo defense probably allows more back door passes than any team in the NHL.

Probably the highest percentage scoring chance one can do, especially on the power play. Its ridiculous how many times you see it against the sabres. The pass across the crease or at the hash marks happens 10 times a game against Buffalo. It certainly doesn't help the goalie's save percentage

 

[Jim Bob]

Maybe we should trade for a top 4 defenseman (on the more affordable side) on an expiring contract and try to sign them in the offseason.

Guys like that move for a 1st+ at the TDL. I doubt Adams is interested in giving up a 1st+ for a potential rental.

 

[Zman5778]

I will restate it again for anyone else that missed it, our bottom pairing and third line are giant boat anchors holding this team down from having a true breakout season and should be replaced, IF AND ONLY IF, sensible and reasonable opportunities are available, no I'm not interested in dumping half the farm to add another 9 million dollar dman to this roster, we are at our limit of roster defining contracts on the back end with Dahlin/Power, and shortly after chychrun would need reupping, someone will have told Sammy hes worth more than what hes getting paid

Louder, for those in the back!!!

Though I do take an ever so slight issue with calling our #3 pairing a "giant boat anchor". They weren't great in the 3rd last night, but let's give them a chance to get familiar with each other again.

 

[Fezzy126]

Since the beginning of the offseason, I have firmly been in the frame of mind that we have to do the following if we're going to be a playoff team:
1) Improve Goaltender position
2) Upgrade Jokiharju's spot in the top 4
3) Trade/replace Olofsson
4) Improve faceoffs
5) Upgrade defensive depth
6) Improve team toughness

However, the fact that we're 14-4-2 with a +36 goal differential with Samuelsson in the lineup suggests otherwise. That record is pretty ridiculous and IMO these guys have earned the right to see how far they can go as a group. The guys performing well deserve the chance to see if they can keep it up, while the guys slumping deserve the chance to break out of their funk.

Further to that, I'll say that my biggest two concerns coming into the season really haven't been problems so far; 1) their goaltending has arguably performed beyond offseason predictions and 2) the top 4 has been very above average w/ Dahlin, Sammy, and Power in the lineup.

If there's a minor deal or waiver claim to improve the third pair/defensive depth, I'm all about it, but for the most part they've been pretty solid throughout the lineup.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Since the beginning of the offseason, I have firmly been in the frame of mind that we have to do the following if we're going to be a playoff team:
1) Improve Goaltender position
2) Upgrade Jokiharju's spot in the top 4
3) Trade/replace Olofsson
4) Improve faceoffs
5) Upgrade defensive depth
6) Improve team toughness

However, the fact that we're 14-4-2 with a +36 goal differential with Samuelsson in the lineup suggests otherwise. That record is pretty ridiculous and IMO these guys have earned the right to see how far they can go as a group. The guys performing well deserve the chance to see if they can keep it up, while the guys slumping deserve the chance to break out of their funk.

Further to that, I'll say that my biggest two concerns coming into the season really haven't been problems so far; 1) their goaltending has arguably performed beyond offseason predictions and 2) the top 4 has been very above average w/ Dahlin, Sammy, and Power in the lineup.

If there's a minor deal or waiver claim to improve the third pair/defensive depth, I'm all about it, but for the most part they've been pretty solid throughout the lineup.

We just need another Samuelsson and we good.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Louder, for those in the back!!!

Though I do take an ever so slight issue with calling our #3 pairing a "giant boat anchor". They weren't great in the 3rd last night, but let's give them a chance to get familiar with each other again.

i liked our third pairing at the start of the season when byewsh was jackin guys up, but the points about Joker being injured a lot and not being much better than #4 guy and that we lack organizational depth aren't wrong, its just people going from we need organizational depth on the blue line, to lets trade 3 first equivalent assets for chychrun, to ok we will see how you act when we miss the playoffs is so over the top and wildly not in line with really what anyone is saying as to be completely absurd

if I'm missing anyone please speak but, but is there a single person out there that thinks this roster is set and we wouldn't be better off if the roster was improved? because I havent seen anyone say that and yet there are multiple people angry typing away to sarcastically call out a view point that NO ONE SUBSCRIBES TO, at all

 

[Irie]

Louder, for those in the back!!!

Though I do take an ever so slight issue with calling our #3 pairing a "giant boat anchor". They weren't great in the 3rd last night, but let's give them a chance to get familiar with each other again.

Olofsson was moving his feet and the line was pretty competent. Mitts and Olofsson looked pretty close to what they looked like playing together last season and was what I think most of us expected out of them this year.

So far this season they have lacked effort(Olofsson), and lacked chemistry (Mitts).

I am holding coaching somewhat responsible for the lines problems. They are absolutely not defending in a scheme that allows them to succeed. Mitts has been playing a man-on-man coverage game on most of the goals against on his line. Olofsson has been puck watching and a bit flat footed, and their third linemate (Asplund/Hino/Krebs) have been enacting a more aggressive zone coverage. If your center is playing a tight man-on-man checking role, then the wingers also have to play a man-containment role and track well. You can't have one forward floating, one forward playing zone containment, and one forward glued to a defensive mark.

There does not seem to be a defensive guideline in place for them to all work together and know their job and place within the line.

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Anyone worried can calm down now aka the Chad and Anthony's of the world

 

[flashsabre]

Jost has been a tremendous waiver claim. Exactly what the bottom 6 was in need of and is young enough to fit with this group for years to come.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Jost has been a tremendous waiver claim. Exactly what the bottom 6 was in need of and is young enough to fit with this group for years to come.

I hope they extend him (he has another year I think ?). Certainly a fine L3/4 guy until Kozak or someone else develops in a few years. How do we think he has been at PK'ing ?

 

[Zman5778]

I hope they extend him (he has another year I think ?). Certainly a fine L3/4 guy until Kozak or someone else develops in a few years. How do we think he has been at PK'ing ?

When he's allowed to be aggressive on the PK, he's great.

When he's forced to be passive on the PK, he gets lost like the rest.

 

[Ehran]

I hope they extend him (he has another year I think ?). Certainly a fine L3/4 guy until Kozak or someone else develops in a few years. How do we think he has been at PK'ing ?

He's an RFA after this season.

His salary this year is $2,250,000. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't any qualifying offer to him require a 10% raise? Not sure the Sabres (or any team really) wants a $2.5M 4th line penalty killer. He's good at it, but not really that good.

 

[Gras]

He's an RFA after this season.

His salary this year is $2,250,000. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't any qualifying offer to him require a 10% raise? Not sure the Sabres (or any team really) wants a $2.5M 4th line penalty killer. He's good at it, but not really that good.

TYSON JOST QUALIFYING OFFER​

A $2,250,000 qualifying offer is required to retain the RFA rights of Tyson Jost. A two-way qualifying offer is permitted since Jost has not met both the games played and waivers requirements. The qualifying offer is equal to 100% of the previous contracts final season base salary because the salary was $1,000,000 or greater.


This players contract does not end until the end of the 2022-23 season. The result displayed is the qualifying offer that they will be subject to when it expires

Reference Contract​

SIGNING DATE:Jul. 30, 2021
LAST YEAR:2023
ANNUAL AVERAGE:$2,000,000

Salary Calculation​

Maximum AAV Multiplier​

PREVIOUS AAV:$2,000,000
120% OF AAV MAX:$2,400,000

Final Year Salary Multiplier​

PREVIOUS SALARY:$2,250,000
SIGNING BONUS:$0
BASE SALARY:$2,250,000
MULTIPLICATION FACTOR:100%

Result​

QO DETERMINED FROM:Multiplication Factor

QUALIFYING OFFER:$2,250,000​

Type Determination​

GP REQUIRED LAST SEASON:60
TOTAL GP LAST SEASON:27
GP REQUIRED PREVIOUS 3 SEASONS:161
TOTAL GP PREVIOUS 3 SEASONS:177
CLEARED WAIVERS LAST SEASON :No

QUALIFYING OFFER TYPE:Two-Way​

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

He's an RFA after this season.

His salary this year is $2,250,000. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't any qualifying offer to him require a 10% raise? Not sure the Sabres (or any team really) wants a $2.5M 4th line penalty killer. He's good at it, but not really that good.

I agree. I think he's fine for right now, but I'd want an upgrade for the future. He's just way too terrible at faceoffs.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Jost has been a tremendous waiver claim. Exactly what the bottom 6 was in need of and is young enough to fit with this group for years to come.

what baffled me about both the Sabres inability to build depth during the eichel years and the attachment to carrier, these players are available for pocket change or less, just need someone with enough common sense to go get them

I'm of the mind that after the first round there are no undrafted picks that are worth more than a roster player, wheel and deal those picks for depth on D

 

[flashsabre]

Jost Mitts VO
Girgs Krebs Okposo

5 first rounders in the bottom 6.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

I'm not interested in dumping half the farm to add another 9 million dollar dman to this roster, we are at our limit of roster defining contracts on the back end with Dahlin/Power, and shortly after chychrun would need reupping, someone will have told Sammy hes worth more than what hes getting paid

No one is interested in dumping any major prospects to pick up a 5/6 d man. And they don't have to do that. The issue is we have guys in the 6,7 spots (Bryson/Fitzgerald) who just are not very good even as 3rd pair d -man. The issue is we don't have any true young up-and-comers in the farm system because we drafted forward heavy for too long. Can we all agree now Pilut is not even a top 8 NHL guy,. The entire league just passed on him on waivers. He was regressing in the KHL before he came over. Clague has outplayed these guys but we can do better in our top 6 without sacrificing much at all.

I will add, I am 100% on board for the right deal that adds a true top 3 D man that can play RD. You have to give to get. If that means, Rosen, Savoie, a 1st of someone else, so be it. I'm not taking a rental. I'm talking a 21,22-year-old signed or under team control. If you want a version of Samuelson to make a killer top 4, you are going to have to pay up. It's simple.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

I believe a 2nd is wishful thinking. This TDL will likely be light on rental D men, and Schenn with his cap hit is going to be a well sought after commodity.

It will probably be two 2nds at a minimum, and a contender likely goes all in and offers up a 1st for him. I think Vancouver holds out till the TDL knowing this.

2 2nds for Luke Schenn. He moves like a turtle. Pass. His salary gives him more value to teams up against the cap. No point in competing for him when Sabres can talk on more cap

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

2 2nds for Luke Schenn. He moves like a turtle. Pass. His salary gives him more value to teams up against the cap. No point in competing for him when Sabres can talk on more cap

who?

I don't follow the NHL close enough to know who has someone in their 5-7 spot that we could scoop up, but I totally agree if you can eat some salary for 2-3 years to get someone cheap, that had the upside to challenge joker but that you could use as the everyday 5/6

right now theres a problem, when Power or Sammy and the D come off the ice the next shift is a net negative, I got time for days if someone wants to get rid of that player for picks

 

[elchud]

Incredibly there may not be a spot for Peeke next season in Columbus.

Marcus Bjork is one of the feel-good stories of the season and is playing on the top pair with Gavrikov. Boqvist and Jiricek are 2nd/3rd pair next season. And they still have Gudbranson. And Blankenburg who is fine long-term as a 7/8 D.

Olofsson/Mitts/Bryson/Johnson for Roslovic/Peeke/Robinson/Cuelemans

 

[toddkaz]

Chychrun at the draft. I think Buffalo is leading the offer for him.
"I've thought about it," he said from the NHL Scouting Combine at HARBORCENTER. "Great ownership, playing for an owner who cares about his players, who wants to win. I mean, that's my ultimate goal is to win a Stanley Cup and I think they're on the right path here so I'd love to play in Buffalo."

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[Der Jaeger]

Incredibly there may not be a spot for Peeke next season in Columbus.

Marcus Bjork is one of the feel-good stories of the season and is playing on the top pair with Gavrikov. Boqvist and Jiricek are 2nd/3rd pair next season. And they still have Gudbranson. And Blankenburg who is fine long-term as a 7/8 D.

Olofsson/Mitts/Bryson/Johnson for Roslovic/Peeke/Robinson/Cuelemans

Don’t know much about Peeke. What’s his game like?

 

[Djp]

I hope they extend him (he has another year I think ?). Certainly a fine L3/4 guy until Kozak or someone else develops in a few years. How do we think he has been at PK'ing ?

hes an RFas with a high QO who is 1 yr from UFA. The QO is over $2M.

there is nothing again him being signed for less next year. Say a 2-3 yr contract at a lower amt. he gets less but a 2-3 yr salary.

 

[DapperCam]

I don't even think we need a Chychrun-caliber defenseman. We need another Samuelsson-style player for the second pair, which bumps Joker to the third pair. Just someone calm, who is good in their own zone and can let Power roam a bit. I don't even think a ton of offensive upside is that important for the type of player we should target. A veteran with good vibes would be a bonus. How expensive can that really be in terms of trade capital and cap space? Usually it's offense that you pay a premium for.

Dahlin - Samuelsson
Power - ?
Lyubushkin - Jokiharju
Clague/Bryson/Fitz/whoever

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Don’t know much about Peeke. What’s his game like?

Think a better version of Boosh with the physicality of Joker.

EDIT: he’s my third most wanted choice out of who may or may not be available. The two ahead of him are Lindgren for the Rags (definitely isn’t happening this season, possibly in the summer) and Mayfield (maybe if the Isles season goes tits up).

And then if they can get Sturm from San Jose and Vejmelka from the Coyotes, I’ll be happy enough where they can make Bjork play every game for the rest of the season and I won’t complain