If they were to do something shocking and build an identity line, I would pay for Duhaime and Carrier in the off-season. If the Rangers offer something to take Goodrow, he's a possibility but with a 15-team NTC? Buffalo is definitely going to be on that.
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If they were to do something shocking and build an identity line, I would pay for Duhaime and Carrier in the off-season. If the Rangers offer something to take Goodrow, he's a possibility but with a 15-team NTC? Buffalo is definitely going to be on that.
Watching the devils tonight, they don’t have talent on defence but playing better team defence than Sabres. Sabres have 3 first overall picks on defence and 3 other first/early second picks. No excuse.
Sick of seeing 3-4 players in corner with no one out front and the lack of players driving to the net. And don’t even talk about the power play and lack of net front players
I don’t know what the answer is but it is either poor coaching or poor roster development. Since players are told from mites on not to bunch up and to go to front of net. I believe the coaching is suspect.
But since, the Sabres do not try different pieces and no player movement at all, the gm bears some blame. Sabres keep trotting out the same players and expecting different results.
I am not going to speculate on what needs to change, that is not my job. However it is the job of the gm and the coaches. And I just don’t see changes or an effort to make changes.
do you job gm and coaches, try something. Cut Okposo and call up Murray. Don’t know what you need to do but let’s do something. Send a message that losing is not acceptable
Sick of seeing 3-4 players in corner with no one out front and the lack of players driving to the net. And don’t even talk about the power play and lack of net front players
I don’t know what the answer is but it is either poor coaching or poor roster development. Since players are told from mites on not to bunch up and to go to front of net. I believe the coaching is suspect.
But since, the Sabres do not try different pieces and no player movement at all, the gm bears some blame. Sabres keep trotting out the same players and expecting different results.
I am not going to speculate on what needs to change, that is not my job. However it is the job of the gm and the coaches. And I just don’t see changes or an effort to make changes.
do you job gm and coaches, try something. Cut Okposo and call up Murray. Don’t know what you need to do but let’s do something. Send a message that losing is not acceptable
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Calling EJ a 1OA, while technically true, at this stage of his career is such an aggressive misrepresentation of his value.
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I've been on and off watching the games. Is Tage actually playing the wing, or is he just not taking faceoffs? If he's playing the wing, then I'm curious of Donny is at the "throw stuff at the wall" point of lineup management, because there's a reason why Tage was night and day when he was initially moved to center from the wing position.
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Getting Reinhart Deja vu with Mitts. Adams never offered him an extension either.
Dubi Doo
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I'd be so damn annoyed unless the return is strongly in our favor.
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Not sure how the lines are now, but looking to the future...:
Skinner- Thompson- Tuch
Quinn- Mitts- Benson
Greenway- XXX- Cozens
Girgs-XXX-XXX
Dahlin-Sammy
Power-XXX
Johnson-Clifton
I want a top-9 center with defensive chops and a 4th line C with some grit and faceoff ability. Also, a gritty 4th line RW and a legit top-4 D.
My trade assets would be Peterka, Krebs, top-5 or 10 protected 1st or higher pick, and a wealth of prospects. The expense fish will be a top-9 C and a top-4 RD, but we have he assets to get it done. The 4th line can probably be rebuilt in FA and Im not opposed to giving a young player a shot there (Rousek, Biro, etc...if anyone proves it in preseason. )
Skinner- Thompson- Tuch
Quinn- Mitts- Benson
Greenway- XXX- Cozens
Girgs-XXX-XXX
Dahlin-Sammy
Power-XXX
Johnson-Clifton
I want a top-9 center with defensive chops and a 4th line C with some grit and faceoff ability. Also, a gritty 4th line RW and a legit top-4 D.
My trade assets would be Peterka, Krebs, top-5 or 10 protected 1st or higher pick, and a wealth of prospects. The expense fish will be a top-9 C and a top-4 RD, but we have he assets to get it done. The 4th line can probably be rebuilt in FA and Im not opposed to giving a young player a shot there (Rousek, Biro, etc...if anyone proves it in preseason. )
Sabre the Win
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At this point I don't care who they trade away, I'm done playing favourites with this team. Identify your weaknesses, trade away players/picks/prospects to add to your strengths and lets change the fortunes of this team around.
Literally no one should be safe.
Literally no one should be safe.
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Adams hasn't even approached Mittelstadt. Just like Reinhart and Ullmark.(He did talk with them but not seriously)
Clown GM for a clown organization.
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Given Adams eagerness to give out 7-8 year deals to everyone and their mother, him not even exploring a contract with Mittelstadt seems silly. I have suggested moving him as he's the most 'movable' of the group given his contract status and need to reshape the forward group.
That being said, I think they need to at least explore it, especially on a mid term (4-5 year) deal.
That being said, I think they need to at least explore it, especially on a mid term (4-5 year) deal.
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Of course he loves it here. No pressure to perform from the coach/management and they hand out long term contracts like candy.
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Adams definitely talked to Reinhart about staying and he was told that Reinhart wanted to move on. The error of not extending Reinhart was on Botterill, not Adams. And even if he had locked up Reinhart (like Eichel), that was no guarantee we would have kept him.
Mitts is a completely different situation than that and I have no problem with the way Adams has handled it. You can't offer everyone a long term deal, you just can't. He identified the young core pieces and locked them up, which I still believe was/is the right thing to do. Now, you're either trading Mitts, or looking to sign him shorter term, and as such, you're negotiating. Why would you have made an offer before this season when he's an RFA and you aren't in danger of losing him, especially because I'm sure Adams knows Mitts wants to stay.
Offering Mitts a long term deal would just further limit our flexibility, making it harder to build out our roster, and harder to trade him. There's just no reason to do that at this point and people piling on Adams for it are just upset about the season and trying to pin everything on him.
If we want to be critical of Adams, it's not like there aren't other clear issues. Not doing anything to significantly improve the defense for multiple years is the #1 issue I have with the job he's done. I continue to believe it's the biggest thing holding this team back and until he makes a significant move there, we'll continue to struggle to make the playoffs.
Mitts is a completely different situation than that and I have no problem with the way Adams has handled it. You can't offer everyone a long term deal, you just can't. He identified the young core pieces and locked them up, which I still believe was/is the right thing to do. Now, you're either trading Mitts, or looking to sign him shorter term, and as such, you're negotiating. Why would you have made an offer before this season when he's an RFA and you aren't in danger of losing him, especially because I'm sure Adams knows Mitts wants to stay.
Offering Mitts a long term deal would just further limit our flexibility, making it harder to build out our roster, and harder to trade him. There's just no reason to do that at this point and people piling on Adams for it are just upset about the season and trying to pin everything on him.
If we want to be critical of Adams, it's not like there aren't other clear issues. Not doing anything to significantly improve the defense for multiple years is the #1 issue I have with the job he's done. I continue to believe it's the biggest thing holding this team back and until he makes a significant move there, we'll continue to struggle to make the playoffs.
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Adams became GM during the 2020 offseason.
Adams waited until the 2021 offseason to talk to Reinhart.
Reinhart would have been happy to sign here if Adams had approached him with an offer in 2020.
I think a big reason that Reinhart was never offered a contract in 2020 was the timing of it coinciding with the financial uncertainty of the pandemic. This was during the "Pegula Family Goals" phase.
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He's not taking as many draws, but he's handling the center responsibilities on his line most of the time.
A few thoughts going into planning for the summer
Willing to 'wait and see' on UPL. That being said, they need to bring in a legit veteran goalie this summer. You can't have UPL and Levi as your 1-2. Too much volatility, too little experience. My plan is to default to Veteran Goalie/UPL splitting time, with a window for Levi to compete for UPL's spot. But obviously willing to wait and see how the season ends.
Two way center is important. I'm hoping we might be able to buy low on Dvorak in a contract year with his offensive struggles. Lindholm is probably prohibitively expensive. Stephenson is an intriguing option as well as a UFA, but he will have heard the tales of Sabres woe from Eichel. Wennberg is out there as well, but is horrid at faceoffs. I am curious what the market on Monahan is as well. I think it's likely a trade route and probably a guy without a ton of tread left on the tire. The hope is probably for them to be transitional to an in house developed guy (Ostlund maybe?)
The other issue is RHD to play with Power. In terms of UFA class, there are actually a few available. Pesce, Roy, Dumba, even Demelo could work. I'm also interested in kicking tires on a more veteran guy as well. I think that forces you to choose between Clifton and Joker, which is also fine.
I think a Skinner buyout is important. If that goes forward, you can then look at trying to add a dynamic winger to fortify the top 6. Less scoring is fine if they can play a more complete game.
Willing to 'wait and see' on UPL. That being said, they need to bring in a legit veteran goalie this summer. You can't have UPL and Levi as your 1-2. Too much volatility, too little experience. My plan is to default to Veteran Goalie/UPL splitting time, with a window for Levi to compete for UPL's spot. But obviously willing to wait and see how the season ends.
Two way center is important. I'm hoping we might be able to buy low on Dvorak in a contract year with his offensive struggles. Lindholm is probably prohibitively expensive. Stephenson is an intriguing option as well as a UFA, but he will have heard the tales of Sabres woe from Eichel. Wennberg is out there as well, but is horrid at faceoffs. I am curious what the market on Monahan is as well. I think it's likely a trade route and probably a guy without a ton of tread left on the tire. The hope is probably for them to be transitional to an in house developed guy (Ostlund maybe?)
The other issue is RHD to play with Power. In terms of UFA class, there are actually a few available. Pesce, Roy, Dumba, even Demelo could work. I'm also interested in kicking tires on a more veteran guy as well. I think that forces you to choose between Clifton and Joker, which is also fine.
I think a Skinner buyout is important. If that goes forward, you can then look at trying to add a dynamic winger to fortify the top 6. Less scoring is fine if they can play a more complete game.
so much of this is what we were expecting to happen this season. why would anyone believe this management group will do anything to address these issues this next season.
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Did you forget you’re taking about the Buffalo Sabres? I think they’ll be in on all of the UFA defensemen you listed and will miss out on all of them.
They won’t even try to get a goalie, and the only forwards incoming will be 4th line replacements, none of them true centers.
The only UFAs signing in Buffalo are the ones you grossly overpay that don't have any better options.
Adams is likely going to bomb in free agency, but I don't think it is his fault, no GM could procure the pieces this team needs through free agency.
He could package Savoie and other assets to address a bottom 6 center need. In a vacuum it will be poor value, but it may make sense for this team. (Now I agree that I do not think he will do it, but If I am being realistic, it is really the only likely avenue available to solve the issue properly).
Doug Prishpreed
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Not sure what this has to do with my post but every good team has some UFAs. Your fear of UFAs, lecturing everyone for two years now about it is getting old. The fact is, every good team needs some good UFAs and they do exist.
Overpay is assumed, it's not a reason to not do it.
Sounds like you don't think anything helpful to this team is possible, or a thing the team would actually do -- you can stop telling us, we get it.
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