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Der Jaeger said:
Because I'm bored I played the proposed Tkachuk and Weegar/Coleman trades out just to see what it'd look like.

Tkachuk and Chychrun for Kulich, Peterka, Power, and 2025 1st.

Weegar and Coleman for Rosen, Krebs, Jokiharju, and 2024 2nd.

Skinner - Thompson - Tuch
Tkachuk - Mittelstadt - Benson
Greenway - Cozens - Quinn
Coleman - Girgensons - Okposo
x Robinson

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Chychrun - Weegar
R. Johnson - Clifton
x E. Johnson

Suddenly a lot tougher to play against with a whole lot of skill still there. It'd have to happen in the off-season, because this roster would be around $93M in season.
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Irie said:
Lots of these proposals popping up and none of them take the cap into account.

You are bringing in 11M and sending out zero cap.

Assuming you make this deal and re-sign Mitts at 7M, You then have 8M for 8 roster spots (both of your goalies, your entire 4th line and all of your depth players - D and forwards).

They wouldn't be able to ice a full team unless they planned on having 10+ ELCs/league-Minimum-bargains on the roster. And realistically, you would be looking at 30+ games of someone like Clague again when injuries happen.

They add some nice pieces, but the depth is abysmal and the team is likely worse off.
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See above. I did take the cap into account.

Some posts are just taking an idea through to see if it’d work.

I put ideas down in a post, then run them through when I have time.

I don’t necessarily think Adams should do it.
 
Der Jaeger said:
See above. I did take the cap into account.
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Trying not to be negative here, but we should at least try to be realistic and work within the actual salary cap. ;)

Your roster listed above without the UFAs is sitting at 83.285M with 16 players this summer.

It leaves you 4.215M to fill 7 roster spots - two goalies, two 4th line players and the three depth reserve players.

Thompson 7.15
Skinner 9
Tuch 4.75
Tkachuk 8.2
Mittelstadt 7
Benson .95
Greenway 3
Cozens 7.1
Quinn .86
Coleman 4.9
xxx - ???
xxx - ???
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10 Forwards - 52.91M

Dahlin 11
Samuelsson 4.3
Weegar 6.25
Chychrun 4.6
R. Johnson .925
Clifton 3.3
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6 defensemen - 30.375M

Goalies
xxx - ???
xxx - ???

Team depth extras
xxx - ???
xxx - ???
xxx - ???
 
Irie said:
Trying not to be negative here, but we should at least try to be realistic and work within the actual salary cap. ;)

Your roster listed above without the UFAs is sitting at 83.285M with 16 players this summer.

It leaves you 4.215M to fill 7 roster spots - two goalies, two 4th line players and the three depth reserve players.

Thompson 7.15
Skinner 9
Tuch 4.75
Tkachuk 8.2
Mittelstadt 7
Benson .95
Greenway 3
Cozens 7.1
Quinn .86
Coleman 4.9
xxx - ???
xxx - ???
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10 Forwards - 52.91M

Dahlin 11
Samuelsson 4.3
Weegar 6.25
Chychrun 4.6
R. Johnson .925
Clifton 3.3
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6 defensemen - 30.375M

Goalies
xxx - ???
xxx - ???

Team depth extras
xxx - ???
xxx - ???
xxx - ???
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Yes, aware. That’s why I said it was around $93m
 
Hello Jets fan coming peace, is there any truth behind Mitts name coming up? If so what would it take from the Jets I know prospects isn’t the strong suit but I would have everything available for him
 
Fire Chevy said:
Hello Jets fan coming peace, is there any truth behind Mitts name coming up? If so what would it take from the Jets I know prospects isn’t the strong suit but I would have everything available for him
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Weekes has been throwing a lot of shit at the wall over the last few weeks. That others may be interested is fine. That doesn't mean f*** all that he's actually being moved.
 
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Dirty Dog said:
I still really believe in this team’s young players (a lot). But the lack of an attempt by the front office to have the roster take the next step has been rough on my optimism.

Attempting and failing is one thing, but not attempting is another.
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It’s really upsetting and not fair to the fans. I expected a step back this season and missing the playoffs due to inactivity; but not like this.
 
Changes need to be made with this team, but the core needs to be kept. I believe that this group can get over the hump. But Kevyn Adams needs to ACTIVELY TRY TO IMPROVE THIS TEAM.

And obviously I believe unfortunately as much as I do like Donnie as a person and think he was the right coach at the right time, his shelf life is up.

I’m not putting it fully on him, however, because Adams asking him to make another big point leap while he sits on his ass is a joke. But the regression being this bad is unacceptable.
 
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SnuggaRUDE said:
Dahlin and Jokiharju have been a solid pairing the last two seasons. I’d rather add to that than dump the only possession positive RHD they have.
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They need more than just solid out of Dahlin and his partner. And given how they've trimmed both of them almost completely out of the PK rotation, finding a way to upgrade on EJ and also PK would be a welcome addition.

MOGlLNY said:
Changes need to be made with this team, but the core needs to be kept. I believe that this group can get over the hump. But Kevyn Adams needs to ACTIVELY TRY TO IMPROVE THIS TEAM.

And obviously I believe unfortunately as much as I do like Donnie as a person and think he was the right coach at the right time, his shelf life is up.

I’m not putting it fully on him, however, because Adams asking him to make another big point leap while he sits on his ass is a joke. But the regression being this bad is unacceptable.
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Not only improve the team, but thinking not getting what he pegged as value on an incomplete shot option in Vic over the summer left him as the "replacement" for an injured Quinn. They did nothing up front and they are all out of ideas.
 
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Chainshot said:
They need more than just solid out of Dahlin and his partner. And given how they've trimmed both of them almost completely out of the PK rotation, finding a way to upgrade on EJ and also PK would be a welcome addition.



Not only improve the team, but thinking not getting what he pegged as value on an incomplete shot option in Vic over the summer left him as the "replacement" for an injured Quinn. They did nothing up front and they are all out of ideas.
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They do need a lot out of their top pairing with Dahlin, but I think they’re largely getting it. 54% xGF is good with that deployment.

They’re stuck because they want to get more individual offense by playing Dahlin on his offside. Dahlin just hasn’t gelled very well with anyone else this season. It also means EJ draws in and he’s not been good 5v5.
 
SnuggaRUDE said:
They do need a lot out of their top pairing with Dahlin, but I think they’re largely getting it. 54% xGF is good with that deployment.

They’re stuck because they want to get more individual offense by playing Dahlin on his offside. Dahlin just hasn’t gelled very well with anyone else this season. It also means EJ draws in and he’s not been good 5v5.
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I think they get EJ is limited in what he can provide 5-on-5, that's why he's down under 11 minutes at even strength (7th of all their D-men in average TOI/game in that situation).
 
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*Brought this from last GDT*


Vito_81 said:
A defensive minded C, to anchor a two way third line. The Tage and the Cozens lines will be offensively driven.

Also, It doesnt have to be Mitts for that player straight up in a trade. But he is a good trade piece.

Not saying the coaches make the right moves, but the fact the best wingers are with Tage and Cozens says to me that Mitts is the 3rd C.

The way I see things, this team needs changes in the top 9 and moving on for Mitts is a good chance, unless you unload/buyout Skinner. But keeping both leaves just 1 open spot for change in the top 9 which is probably not enough of a change.


Skinner
Tage
Tuch
Cozens
JJ
Quinn
Benson
X
X
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I agree they need to revamp the top 9. A good start would be to better deploy what we already have.

If you’re hoping to acquire a two way center so we can have a checking/match up “3rd line”. Don't bother, Granato doesn’t use one. Even though we have the pieces for one and he could.

Mitts already takes d-zone draws off his line and is the best DZ faceoff guy we have. He’s won 56% of them. (He’s out for OZ starts beyond his line as well). He’s already a much better version of what you want to trade him for.
 
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I'd try to find a ROR type player to give the team some stability. Maybe Cirelli at the draft?

I'd build a checking first line and then have the chaos crew as middle 6.

Greenway-Cirelli-Quinn
Peterka-Mittelstadt-Cozens
Skinner-Thompson-Tuch

4th line could be a scoring line if we want to give Krebs a serious chance. Something like:
Benson-Krebs-Kulich

If I remember correctly the summer 2025 is good for a Skinner buyout... Doing it this summer feels like doing Toronto a favour.
 
Dirty Dog said:
The idea of trading for Chychrun as a rental rather than a core piece (knowing it would take blue chip futures to get him) is seriously rewriting history and is so far off from reality
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You are wrong all the time, including here. Go back and read the posts -- it's easy to do. Der Jager suggested this exact thing all season, and plenty agreed. I agreed with him at points, and disagreed on this topic at other points.

Not many people wanted to sign him long term -- most either didn't want him at all (and were total jackasses to anyone who disagreed), or they wanted him as a rental.
 
HaNotsri said:
I'd try to find a ROR type player to give the team some stability. Maybe Cirelli at the draft?

I'd build a checking first line and then have the chaos crew as middle 6.

Greenway-Cirelli-Quinn
Peterka-Mittelstadt-Cozens
Skinner-Thompson-Tuch

4th line could be a scoring line if we want to give Krebs a serious chance. Something like:
Benson-Krebs-Kulich

If I remember correctly the summer 2025 is good for a Skinner buyout... Doing it this summer feels like doing Toronto a favour.
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Cirelli has not bloomed the way his early hype indicated. I'd rather they try to find a useful identity line out of a combo of what they have an one or maybe even two external additions.
 
Chainshot said:
Cirelli has not bloomed the way his early hype indicated. I'd rather they try to find a useful identity line out of a combo of what they have an one or maybe even two external additions.
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I'm not seeing him as a 1C but I love how he disrupt plays and works all over the ice. I just want a solid guy to allow us to move Tage or Dylan to wing.
 
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Chainshot said:
Cirelli has not bloomed the way his early hype indicated. I'd rather they try to find a useful identity line out of a combo of what they have an one or maybe even two external additions.
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I know Ranger fans are just about done with him......but I do wonder if there's any meat left on Goodrow's bones? That cap hit is a touch ugly for a 4th liner.....but he's kinda exactly what we need if he's not done.

I do wonder if we could get him for a song if Drury wants him out as badly as Ranger fans do.
 
Zman5778 said:
I know Ranger fans are just about done with him......but I do wonder if there's any meat left on Goodrow's bones? That cap hit is a touch ugly for a 4th liner.....but he's kinda exactly what we need if he's not done.

I do wonder if we could get him for a song if Drury wants him out as badly as Ranger fans do.
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not taking that contract for free...
 
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