Roster moves prior to season opener (Emmerton clears waivers)

[RedWingsNow*]

Strap in for this one, but this decade goes back a full 10 years. He's been there.

This decade started in 2010 or 11, depending on how you view 0s and 1s.

But whatever.

The point is that the last 4 seasons of Red Wings hockey has finished with Lewis-esque results.

 

[Heaton]

This decade started in 2010 or 11, depending on how you view 0s and 1s.

But whatever.

The point is that the last 4 seasons of Red Wings hockey has finished with Lewis-esque results.

With this roster? Not very surprising. As for that, what other teams have been that much more successful the last few seasons? Only 2 teams the past 2 years have won a round in the playoffs two years in a row.

 

[Bench]

Every time what?

You tell me.

This is a thread about current roster moves and you found a way to lament Hossa's departure yet again.

 

[TatarTangle]

Sheahan and Glendening are RFAs after this year, wouldn't surprise me if they both saw time at 4C this year. I'd imagine they are higher on Sheahan so I think he'll see more ice time.

Too bad Helm is made of glass, this wouldn't even be a topic of discussion. Still think they should have tried to package him for a defenseman while teams wanted him.

 

[ChadS]

Only reason Emmerton got to play for the Wings was 1) his waiver status and 2) they had no other options for C.

Glendening is more grittier and useful on the PK. He's also taken huge steps lately while Emmerton's development has pretty much stopped.

 

[Henkka]

Babcock has not been to the SC Finals this decade.

You want to talk about history, be my guest.
2010 - 2nd Rd
2011- 2nd Rd
2012- 1st Rd
2013- 2nd Rd

Looks a little like a Dave Lewis line right there.

Looks more of expensive contract extensions after success against tight cap during 2010 and 2011 and Lidström injury at 2012 and retirement as result of 2013 for me.

You know these things. We really don't have to inform. Or do we?

 

[BF3]

Man, apparently waiving Emmerton just sets off all sorts of emotions. LTIR Tuesday is the day we need to watch.

 

[golffuul]

Callahan, Glendening, Jarnkrok, Jurco, Pulkkinen, Almquist, Ouellet, Sproul, and Coreau have all been sent to @griffinshockey


Guess Sheahan is getting first crack at 4th line Center.


EDIT: They updated saying that Sheahan is going down as well.


Now I'm lost.

 

[Crymson]

This decade started in 2010 or 11, depending on how you view 0s and 1s.

But whatever.

The point is that the last 4 seasons of Red Wings hockey has finished with Lewis-esque results.

Umm, OK. Scotty Bowman had two first-round exists and two second-round exits, and this with a team whose payroll was vastly higher than that of most teams in the league.

Callahan, Glendening, Jarnkrok, Jurco, Pulkkinen, Almquist, Ouellet, Sproul, and Coreau have all been sent to @griffinshockey

Guess Sheahan is getting first crack at 4th line Center.

EDIT: They updated saying that Sheahan is going down as well.

Now I'm lost.

The point of this affair is to get below the cap and roster limit. Sheahan or Glendening will be brought up on Tuesday.

Glendening is not even a year younger than Emmerton. He's 5'11. He has very little skill. He's not very physical. He loses draws.

What's the upside here?

I can see Sheahan, to an extent. He's younger and bigger.

Here were the faceoff
Datsyuk 39-22 = 63.9%
Andersson 54-35 = 60.7%
Weiss 43-29 = 59.7%
Sheahan 20-22 = 47.6%
Emmerton 25-31 = 44.6%
Glendening 28-33= 45.9%

I think Babcock is being dazzled once again by mediocrity

Agreed---we need to sign Zherdev instead, right?

After all, he doesn't have any work ethic issues or attitude problems. Right?

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Considering I don't think anyone in the professional hockey world agrees with you, I'll just chalk that up to fan opinion.

Yeah well nobody in the hockey world agrees with your characterization of Holland as inept either. So we will chalk that up to misguided fan opinion as well, fair or no?

 

[Heaton]

Yeah well nobody in the hockey world agrees with your characterization of Holland as inept either. So we will chalk that up to misguided fan opinion as well, fair or no?

Sure.

 

[newfy]

Besides, isn't Glendening just speculation among us? Maybe Sheahan will get the job...

This is true but I read somewhere last night Babcock said Glendening will play for the Wings. He didnt say this season or anything so the way he said it made me wonder if he meant in a year or something but now thats why I'm banking on him.

Plus Sheahan is younger and could use another year with top 6 scorers minutes in GR, Glendening is less suited to that role but probably more suited on the fourth line right now than Glendening

 

[RedWingsNow*]

With this roster? Not very surprising. As for that, what other teams have been that much more successful the last few seasons? Only 2 teams the past 2 years have won a round in the playoffs two years in a row.

Conference Finalists last 4 years
Boston 2
Chicago 2
Pittsburgh
Los Angeles 2
San Jose 2
New Jersey
New York Rangers
Phoenix
Vancouver
Tampa
Philadelphia
Montreal

Conference Finalists previous 4 years
Detroit 3
Pittsburgh 2
Carolina 2
Anaheim 2
Buffalo 2
Chicago
Dallas
Philadephia
Ottawa

The four year cuts the post-cap era nicely in half.
And you can see the difference. Detroit was the class of the NHL for the first four years.
Detroit is nowhere to be seen the second four years.
Make all the excuses you want about the roster. 12 of the 30 teams in the NHL has made a conference finals appearance in the last 4 years. We're not one of them.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Sure.

For the record I would actually agree with Babcock winning out here if he is in fact the one pushing Sheahan or Glendening over Emmerton. Have a feeling both guys are probably in agreement though, Emmerton just hasn't done enough to warrant continued involvement on the Wings.

 

[RedWingsNow*]

You tell me.

This is a thread about current roster moves and you found a way to lament Hossa's departure yet again.

That's miles from the truth

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

You tell me.

This is a thread about current roster moves and you found a way to lament Hossa's departure yet again.

Hossa leaving is the gift that keeps on giving, we still have at least another five years to talk about it.

 

[Chance on Chance]

This is true but I read somewhere last night Babcock said Glendening will play for the Wings. He didnt say this season or anything so the way he said it made me wonder if he meant in a year or something but now thats why I'm banking on him.

Plus Sheahan is younger and could use another year with top 6 scorers minutes in GR, Glendening is less suited to that role but probably more suited on the fourth line right now than Glendening

Its a contract year for Glendening so I assume he'll be looking to move to the NHL next year if he doesnt make it with us this year. Next year we have Sheahan and Ferraro having to come up so its we use him this year or lose him

 

[Run the Jewels]

Man, apparently waiving Emmerton just sets off all sorts of emotions. LTIR Tuesday is the day we need to watch.

Yeah, it happened when Jan Mursak (legen...wait for it...ah who are we kidding) was waived. Also happened with Mattias Ritola. Emmerton will carve out a nice little NHL career along the lines of Derek Meech. I wish him the best but it will become very clear that the DRW are a better team with Luke Glendening in the lineup over Cory Emmerton. Glendening is a very good defensive forward and there's no question he makes the 2013-14 edition of the Red Wings a better squad. Just watch.

 

[Henkka]

Callahan, Glendening, Jarnkrok, Jurco, Pulkkinen, Almquist, Ouellet, Sproul, and Coreau have all been sent to @griffinshockey

Guess Sheahan is getting first crack at 4th line Center.

EDIT: They updated saying that Sheahan is going down as well.

Now I'm lost.

So there comes THE END for this Glendening speculation. But nice freaking out about nothing guys.

They're gonna split Dats and Zee.

Franzen - Zeta - Alfredsson
Cleary - Dats - Abdelkader
Bertuzzi - Weiss - Sammy
Nyquist - Andersson - Tatar
(Miller)

Tootoo - short-term-injury

Helm - LTIR
Eaves - LTIR
Emmerton - waived

 

[Hammerheart]

What if they moved Franzen to 2nd line center?

Z-Pav-Abs
Nyquist-Mule-Alfie
Tatar-Weiss-Bert
Clears-Andy-Tootoo/Sammy

Oh sure, that's what we should do. Spend 5 million on a 3rd line center. You're hired.

 

[Wayne Crosby]

So there comes THE END for this Glendening speculation. But nice freaking out about nothing guys.

They're gonna split Dats and Zee.

Franzen - Zeta - Alfredsson
Cleary - Dats - Abdelkader
Bertuzzi - Weiss - Sammy
Nyquist - Andersson - Tatar
(Miller)

Tootoo - short-term-injury

Helm - LTIR
Eaves - LTIR
Emmerton - waived

Not a chance.

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Abdelkader
Franzen - Weiss - Alfredsson
Nyquist - Andersson - Tatar
Cleary - Glendening/Sheahan - Bert/Sammy/Miller

Glendening and Sheahan get sent down so we can get under the roster cap, and one of them will be up on Tuesday. We didn't bring Weiss in just to have D and Z split up again. Not. a. chance.

 

[newfy]

So there comes THE END for this Glendening speculation. But nice freaking out about nothing guys.

They're gonna split Dats and Zee.

Franzen - Zeta - Alfredsson
Cleary - Dats - Abdelkader
Bertuzzi - Weiss - Sammy
Nyquist - Andersson - Tatar
(Miller)

Tootoo - short-term-injury

Helm - LTIR
Eaves - LTIR
Emmerton - waived

Theyre probably waiting to LTIR a guy and then call one of them back up actually

 

[Run the Jewels]

Callahan, Glendening, Jarnkrok, Jurco, Pulkkinen, Almquist, Ouellet, Sproul, and Coreau have all been sent to @griffinshockey


Guess Sheahan is getting first crack at 4th line Center.


EDIT: They updated saying that Sheahan is going down as well.


Now I'm lost.

Hopefully this means Gus is staying put.

 

[Henkka]

Not a chance.

Glendening and Sheahan get sent down so we can get under the roster cap, and one of them will be up on Tuesday. We didn't bring Weiss in just to have D and Z split up again. Not. a. chance.

Of course there is a chance. Don't be naive. They waived a center and there's no free roster spot for Sheahan/Glendening to bring up. Their spots are at Griffins 1st and 3rd lines.

Cleary or Miller have been some games at center, but I'd rather use that superior Zeta-Dats-Weiss-Andy in the middle before them.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Anyway, this seems to indicate that they do not expect for him to be claimed, I think. Business as usual.