Line Combos: Roster Discussion/Line Combos

[DangeRouss]

How many injured players it takes to give Tex a chance to play in the PP ?

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Looks like Jiricek spends the rest of the season in AHL? Wonder if it has to do with acting out when he didnt get to stay in NHL level

 

[Jovavic]

How many injured players it takes to give Tex a chance to play in the PP ?

10, probably

 

[VT]

We need RHD but LHD Christiansen has called.

 

[VT]

Looks like Jiricek spends the rest of the season in AHL? Wonder if it has to do with acting out when he didnt get to stay in NHL level

Whole. We have Sweezey, Zboril, Bjork. As you see, lot of excellent prospects.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Had the team actually weaponized cap space at the deadline by taking on some "bad contracts" for picks, they wouldn't need to be calling up so many guys from Cleveland.

 

[VT]

Had the team actually weaponized cap space at the deadline by taking on some "bad contracts" for picks, they wouldn't need to be calling up so many guys from Cleveland.

On the contrary, it's a chance to give space to the youngsters, to rotate them, because it's clear that they can't yet sustain the pace of the NHL for many games. It's just that merit is the priority here, not the future. So instead of giving the youngsters experience that they can capitalize on next season, they're playing in the AHL. And don't tell me they need to learn how to lead a team. Others are doing that anyway.

 

[CBJx614]

By calling up the guys who have been getting top minutes in Cleveland instead of the kids, it allows those kids to take on a bigger role in Cleveland, which is the natural progression if they aren't already playing that role in Cleveland. And it doesn't sound like any of them are.

Either way, the games don't matter, this is a time to see what you have moving forward.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Looks like Jiricek spends the rest of the season in AHL? Wonder if it has to do with acting out when he didnt get to stay in NHL level

It would be something this organization would do out of spite.

 

[majormajor]

Looks like Jiricek spends the rest of the season in AHL? Wonder if it has to do with acting out when he didnt get to stay in NHL level

Cleveland watchers tell us that Jiricek hasn't stepped up his defense, it seems he just needs more time down there. I wouldn't be calling him up until he takes a step.

Had the team actually weaponized cap space at the deadline by taking on some "bad contracts" for picks, they wouldn't need to be calling up so many guys from Cleveland.

If they did that then they wouldn't be able to reward our journeymen with NHL games and our Cleveland prospects with primo ice time. We've had a log jam down there most of the year.

 

[VT]

I am looking at Bean's stats. And they are very interesting.

If only players who are in CBJ now:

SH Blocked:

1. Gudbranson 140 - 1226:28
2. Provorov 123 - 1488:06
3. Werenski 104 - 1339:01
4. BEAN 97 - 1024:13

5x5

1. Werenski 90 - 1028:25
2. Gudbranson 89 - 1007:01
3. Provorov 82 - 1122:33
4. BEAN 76 - 923:40

GA:

1. BEAN - 14
2. Boqvist - 16
3. Gudbranson - 18
4. Werenski - 18
5. Severson - 29 ( but Damon played less games than Ivan)
6. Provorov - 35

TA:

1. Werenski 26
2. BEAN 24
3. Severson 23
4. Provorov 17
5. Gudbranson 16
6. Boqvist 7

I think we underrated Jake. Maybe it is a reason why he has often changed Provorov in the pair with Gudbranson

 

[CBJx614]

 

[Cowumbus]

I am looking at Bean's stats. And they are very interesting.

If only players who are in CBJ now:

SH Blocked:

1. Gudbranson 140 - 1226:28
2. Provorov 123 - 1488:06
3. Werenski 104 - 1339:01
4. BEAN 97 - 1024:13

5x5

1. Werenski 90 - 1028:25
2. Gudbranson 89 - 1007:01
3. Provorov 82 - 1122:33
4. BEAN 76 - 923:40

GA:

1. BEAN - 14
2. Boqvist - 16
3. Gudbranson - 18
4. Werenski - 18
5. Severson - 29 ( but Damon played less games than Ivan)
6. Provorov - 35

TA:

1. Werenski 26
2. BEAN 24
3. Severson 23
4. Provorov 17
5. Gudbranson 16
6. Boqvist 7

I think we underrated Jake. Maybe it is a reason why he has often changed Provorov in the pair with Gudbranson

Think this is the conga line @thebus88 has been trying to lead

 

[DarkandStormy]

Patrik Laine 6-3-9 in 18 games
Alex Nylander 8-3-11 in 11 games

 

[koteka]

Alex Nylander 8-3-11 in 11 games

William Nylander 5-8-13 in last 11 games.

Who were the last brothers to be playing this well? Anyone since the Sedins?

 

[Cyclones Rock]

William Nylander 5-8-13 in last 11 games.

Who were the last brothers to be playing this well? Anyone since the Sedins?

I'd look at the Hughes Brothers. Don't know for sure, but would have to think they'd be right in the mix.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Patrik Laine 6-3-9 in 18 games
Alex Nylander 8-3-11 in 11 games

I don’t think kicking Laine when he’s down is quite the flex we should be going for here. We all get it.

 

[koteka]

I'd look at the Hughes Brothers. Don't know for sure, but would have to think they'd be right in the mix.

I knew I was missing something obvious.

 

[VT]

Patrik Laine 6-3-9 in 18 games
Alex Nylander 8-3-11 in 11 games

Patrik Laine had concussion. Alex Nylander not and his %SH is 20,5.

 

[VT]

Think this is the conga line @thebus88 has been trying to lead

I know there are still a lot of stats that teams make up that are much more accurate. But these are also interesting since Bean is often featured here as an incompetent defenseman.

 

[Cowumbus]

Elvis might need to be bought out

 

[stevo61]

Elvis might need to be bought out

So did Peeke but we found a trade partner. Hell, we even got something back

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Elvis might need to be bought out

I find it hard to blame him for tonight but hey, go ahead and ride that train.

Tarasov got the worst team in the league last night and Elvis drew the #5 team in the league on the 2nd night of a back to back where the entire team play like they were already celebrating St. Patty's day. Just keep that in mind for perspective.

Nobody posts anything about Elvis being bought out after he beats the Rangers, Senators or Blackhawks with a save percentage over .929 in his previous last 3 full games.

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

If Moose Jaw go out early in the playoffs, I'd love for Mateychuk to get some NHL action. Maybe it's due to him not having had any NHL exposure, but I am currently more excited to see him than Jiricek.

 

[Monstershockey]

I find it hard to blame him for tonight but hey, go ahead and ride that train.

Tarasov got the worst team in the league last night and Elvis drew the #5 team in the league on the 2nd night of a back to back where the entire team play like they were already celebrating St. Patty's day. Just keep that in mind for perspective.

Nobody posts anything about Elvis being bought out after he beats the Rangers, Senators or Blackhawks with a save percentage over .929 in his previous last 3 full games.

I don't blame anyone for wins or losses, too many things happen over the course of a game for it to fall on one person.

As far as the defense goes, it"s hard to just blame that, especially looking at each goalies last 4 starts. Tarasov faced 160 shots to Elvis' 96. Tarasov started against Edmonton, Vegas, Nashville, and San Jose posting a .944 save percentage averaging 40 shots against per start. I threw out the Montreal game because it wasn't a start.

Elvis faced Chicago,Montreal, Ottawa, and Winnipeg posting .865 on 24 shots per start.

Pretty easy to see who had the bigger workload and tougher opponents.

I don't hate Elvis, and am not going to make excuses for him or Tarasov, but when he said he wanted out, I pretty much turned the page on him. I've always thought he was an average goalie, but at his age, and his level of play the last few years, I have no problem moving on from him and wish him well. Tarasov may not work out either, but he is younger, and has less ego, so I think he would be more coachable in the long run.