2024-25 Prospects Thread: As We Wait For Alexander

[Unsustainable]

We really do have an iron wall of Defense prospects in Russia

 

[chaz4hockey]

Check out this quick shot from Nadeau—-wow

 

[chaz4hockey]

Nadeau's first goal; he gets his shot off faster than any current Cane....impressive:

 

[Discipline Daddy]

Nadeau has a small frame and other warts in his games, but he certainly has an NHL release. It was nice to spend first round currency and get a first round shooting talent. Seems like most of our NHL forward lines in the past few years haven't had one player with a release like that. You put a little shooting talent in our system with a guy like Jarvis or Roslovic and you see the impact it has. During the outdoor game against the Caps a commentator famously told us we needed more 45' players, and I think Nadeau is our man. I'm not yet penciling him in for next year or anything, but I do think he'll make the show and add that much needed shooting skill.

 

[CandyCanes]

We released Pashin last year. I wonder if we slightly regret doing that. He’s got 36 points in 47 games in the KHL this year.

 

[WreckingCrew]

We released Pashin last year. I wonder if we slightly regret doing that. He’s got 36 points in 47 games in the KHL this year.

Probably not, dude was like 5'8" on a good day, small guys can do really well in the KHL with the right skillset (i.e. Tolchinsky, Shabanov)

 

[hblueridgegal]

 

[chaz4hockey]

Speaking of bottom 6 possibilities:

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Huge bummer.

 

[To Be Determined]

Speaking of bottom 6 possibilities:

big righty center would have been nice if he developed enough to be a 4c (i think that is his ceiling - prove me wrong, kid). canes aren't exactly filled with center depth on the farm, so i'm mildly surprised, but who knows if they planned to offer?

 

[Stanky and Janky]

I had wondered if he might go this route. Seems like a solid prospect with some bottom six potential but not the end of the world. It wouldn't shock me if we could find a similar level UDFA to sign out of the NCAA if we are so inclined.

 

[bleedgreen]

Well that sucks. Wonder why he won’t sign with us. He’s been to camps, hasn’t he? We have a relationship with him.

On paper he’s potentially a great bottom six fit.

 

[Wolfpuck]

We’re pretty thin at center. He would have had a decent chance to make it here. Oh well.

 

[Chrispy]

Well that sucks. Wonder why he won’t sign with us. He’s been to camps, hasn’t he? We have a relationship with him.

On paper he’s potentially a great bottom six fit.

On one side I agree.

On the other, I remember we were all excited about Chase Priskie in 2019. Fast forward 6 years and he's a good AHL defenceman.

 

[Stanky and Janky]

On the other hand, I could be misremembering but weren't the Canes in a similar spot with Cade Webber and managed to pull like a 6th out of trading him?

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Well that sucks. Wonder why he won’t sign with us. He’s been to camps, hasn’t he? We have a relationship with him.

On paper he’s potentially a great bottom six fit.

Almost certainly because his agent knows that there are craploads of teams with f**k all in terms of a farm system and an ever- perpetuating need for cheap bottom-six talent. The Canes have a pretty backwards roster where our core is cheap but our role players are expensive. Most contending clubs are built more like Toronto, Tampa, or the Rangers.

 

[Lempo]

"The Montreal, Quebec native"

I wonder if we might have offended his childhood fave team at one point or another.

 

[DaveG]

Easier said than done when you're at the tail-end of the first round and subsequent rounds are a crapshoot. Honestly the fact that we have any guys at all worth talking about from each draft is impressive...most of them won't make it, but we definitely have a lot of guys that give hope. I do think we need to start drafting some size though, undersized skilled Russians may be low risk high reward late in a draft, but if they don't turn into top 6 players you're pretty much SOL

TBH I liked the strategy we had with our second round guys for a while there. Eetu, Drury, and Pono all already are or look like long term NHL guys even if they never top being 3rd liners. Rees was trending the right direction as well until he got screwed by Chicago thinking they were above being an AHL squad.

 

[bleedgreen]

Almost certainly because his agent knows that there are craploads of teams with f**k all in terms of a farm system and an ever- perpetuating need for cheap bottom-six talent. The Canes have a pretty backwards roster where our core is cheap but our role players are expensive. Most contending clubs are built more like Toronto, Tampa, or the Rangers.

I’m glad we now have a farm system. I think we over rate that system a tad. There’s plenty of room for a two way center with size and a willingness to use it. He’s actually number one on a list of one.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I’m glad we now have a farm system. I think we over rate that system a tad. There’s plenty of room for a two way center with size and a willingness to use it. He’s actually number one on a list of one.

My argument is that the Canes usually find the best bottom-six support in trades and free agency, not the draft. Guys like Noesen, Carrier, Robinson, and Jankowski are generally a heck of a lot more effective at playing the Rod style than the younger types floating around the AHL.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

I like the strategy of going for boom or bust guys in the draft. Might be a good idea to adjust the models to weight size more favorably though.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I like the strategy of going for boom or bust guys in the draft. Might be a good idea to adjust the models to weight size more favorably though.

Generally-speaking, below the 1st round, almost every one of the potential top-6ers are going to have some sort of defect. They compensate for this by drafting in large quantities. The Canes have a bunch of small guys, but they're still one of the best defensive teams in the league (and likely the best if you exclude goaltending factors, such as Hellebuyck in Winnipeg).

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Wow, first Rantanen refuses to sign, then Lucas Mercuri? The hits just keep coming

 

[Lempo]

Wow, first Rantanen refuses to sign, then Lucas Mercuri? The hits just keep coming

Caught in a landslide sure enough.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

did we lose a general prospect thread or did we not have one for this year?
just wondering what people think of some of the swede prospects, seems like I hear they're doing alright a bit after they're drafted then I never hear about them ever again