Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVIII - Dust in the wind…

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Kravtsov had 20 games in the NHL in which he did jack shit. There's no good reason to think he'd even help us at this point.

Not a Kravtsov fanboy, but he did everything but score in those 20 games. He gifted some opportunities that weren’t buried. He created turnovers with his back checking and hustle. He showed me more in those 20 games than Chytil has in 227 games, Andersson in 66 games, and Lafreniere in 104 games.

Having said that, the kid can go f*** himself.
 
Not a Kravtsov fanboy, but he did everything but score in those 20 games. He gifted some opportunities that weren’t buried. He created turnovers with his back checking and hustle. He showed me more in those 20 games than Chytil has in 227 games, Andersson in 66 games, and Lafreniere in 104 games.

Having said that, the kid can go f*** himself.
The kid has skill and vision, his attitude has been immature. If he comes back and is given an immediate role and just works hard and plays than I think everyone wins here. Kravtsov coming in here and playing hard is probably the best addition NYR can make in the top 9. The team still needs to add bottom 6 depth and push mckegg out of the lineup (back to the ahl) and ideally make hunt the 13th forward
 
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To NYR: Karlsson @ 50%
To VGK: Kravtsov
To ARZ: Chytil

Arizona needs to get to the floor somehow. Don't know what VGK would want. It's a cap dump but he's still a good player.
 
To NYR: Karlsson @ 50%
To VGK: Kravtsov
To ARZ: Chytil

Arizona needs to get to the floor somehow. Don't know what VGK would want. It's a cap dump but he's still a good player.
I would be fine with this if it is nils instead of VK. I really believe VK's biggest value is to NYR if he comes and just plays.
 
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We really should just take the Puljujarvi route with him and hope he grows up and performs here. We’ll never get the value back we invested in him.
I was very hi on the F him train with what happened at camp, but in the end BOTH sides have suffered, and in the mean time no more confusion in communication with bobrov gone. I know as a kid I did a lot of maturing from year to year in my late teens and early 20s. It is time to bring him in and let him play. Even last year I felt when he came in he should've gone directly on the rw with strome and panarin as a place to succeed with his strengths. He is never going to be a 4th line player, he is a top 6 or top 9 guy. Let him earn it now...
 
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To NYR: Karlsson @ 50%
To VGK: Kravtsov
To ARZ: Chytil

Arizona needs to get to the floor somehow. Don't know what VGK would want. It's a cap dump but he's still a good player.
I doubt Arizona retains 3M for 6 more years. if they were going to retain on a contract might as well do it for Chychrun and get a huge return.
 
Kreider had 3 points in 23 GP in his first season with us. JT had 4 in 26.

Kravtsov's 4 in 20 GP is arguably showing more.
Yeah but Yakupov scored more in his D+1 first 25 games than all 3 of them combined so…
Yes I’m a jackass, and referencing something from a different thread. hahaha.
 
That might be the worst take on Kocur I have ever heard. That washed up Tomato can was the best fighter this club ever employed. It was a different era in hockey back then. Enforcers mattered. Every team had multiple guys to do the job. Not to mention, prior to 91, the Rangers were literally called the Smurfs. Ill never forget the playoffs when the Rangers knocked the Isles out. I believe it was James Patrick who laid a big hit on LaFontaine. A the end of the game the Isles threw out their goon squad. Baumgartner, Vukota and Nylund. Rangers didn't have an answer for it. They had Nilan, Chris King and Bloemberg. They beat the snot out of the Rangers left on the ice. Rangers checked out the next series. In the meeting the very next season Kocur went right after Baumgartner opening faceoff. The place erupted. In another heavyweight tilt, #26 hit Jay Caufiled so hard it cracked his helmet down the middle. Kocur while in NY took on pretty much anyone that was willing to have a go with him. Paul Laus, Stu Grimson, Donald Brashear, Rob Ray, Craig Berube, Dan Kordic, Lyle Odelien and Bob Probert. Kocur had very few losses, and a lot of players ducked him his whole career.

Rangers had a massive culture change in the early 90's. They added Graves, Beukeboom, Kocur and of course Messier arrived shortly after. They bulked up. The never let anyone push them around. The end result was the first Stanley Cup in 54 years.

Kocur's hands were gone by the time he became a Ranger. Adam Graves and Tie Domi were the best fighters in a Rangers sweater. Kocur's heyday was with the Red Wings. He wasn't the same guy in NY. Pre-back injury Graves was the toughest player to wear a Rangers sweater in the last 40 years.

The LaFontaine incident happened in 1990. First round of the playoffs. The Rangers won that series. Al Arbour stained his legacy with that incident. The Rangers had injuries on D. Leetch broke his ankle in March 1990. He didn't play in the playoffs. Shaw didn't play in the playoffs either. Rochefort who could never stay healthy was healthy enough to play in the playoffs that season. Moller was good for the Rangers in the playoffs. They lost to Washington because the Caps were better.

The Smurfs stuff was in the early 1980's(82/83) when the Rangers kept beating Philly. The Flyers coach and GM Bob McCammon called them the Smurfs. His Flyers couldn't skate with them. Pavelich, McCallahan, Hedberg, etc skated circles around them.
 
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Kocur's hands were gone by the time he became a Ranger. Adam Graves and Tie Domi were the best fighters in a Rangers sweater. Kocur's heyday was with the Red Wings. He wasn't the same guy in NY. Pre-back injury Graves was the toughest player to wear a Rangers sweater in the last 40 years.

The LaFontaine incident happened in 1990. First round of the playoffs. The Rangers won that series. Al Arbour stained his legacy with that incident. The Rangers had injuries on D. Leetch broke his ankle in March 1990. He didn't play in the playoffs. Shaw didn't play in the playoffs either. Rochefort who could never stay healthy was healthy enough to play in the playoffs that season. Moller was good for the Rangers in the playoffs. They lost to Washington because the Caps were better.

The Smurfs stuff was in the early 1980's(82/83) when the Rangers kept beating Philly. The Flyers coach and GM Bob McCammon called them the Smurfs. His Flyers couldn't skate with them. Pavelich, McCallahan, Hedberg, etc skated circles around them.
I love Adam Graves! but As far as Fighting he’s behind
Barry Beck
Nick Fotiu
Joe Kocur - He beat a lot of guys while a Ranger.
Tie Domi
George McPhee
Darren Langdon. - Graves.
All the above Tough Rangers and I love em all.
 
I love Adam Graves! but As far as Fighting he’s behind
Barry Beck
Nick Fotiu
Joe Kocur - He beat a lot of guys while a Ranger.
Tie Domi
George McPhee
Darren Langdon. - Graves.
All the above Tough Rangers and I love em all.
And a lot more quite honestly. Graves was extremely tough for a non enforcer, but in the enforcer world he was on the Kris King level, a good middleweight who was more fearless than feared.
 
I love Adam Graves! but As far as Fighting he’s behind
Barry Beck
Nick Fotiu
Joe Kocur - He beat a lot of guys while a Ranger.
Tie Domi
George McPhee
Darren Langdon. - Graves.
All the above Tough Rangers and I love em all.
I’d put money on Langdon or Kocur against anyone, at any point in their careers. They were smart, tough and would outlast their opponents.
 
One interesting thing about the idea of signing Hertl in UFA to replace Strome next year- Hertl is not a guy who has relied as heavily on the powerplay for his points in recent years. He's on their top PP unit, but hasn't gotten much done there this season. I think he'd end up on our second unit and be asked to slightly more penalty killing.

I think if you do that and replace Strome's PP1 spot with either Kakko or Lafreniere it could go a long way to boost their confidence. Even just getting the extra 10 points or so that would just sort of come your way organically from playing on that unit could really give either kid a confidence boost at even strength.
 
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Barron not playing is more puzzling then anything else... he’s shown he can play well at the nhl level. He’s shown he can play well at the AHL level....
He’s obviously an upgrade on McKegg.. if GG wants to go with McKegg, fine, but you have Barron sitting on taxi squad doing nothing.
If he’s part of the future, or you know he’s really not going to get nhl time, why isn’t he in Hartford until next season???
They can call up various 4th line plugs that don’t have the potential impact Barron has on the line up.
It’s great that he’s practicing with the big boys and hopefully learning, but it’s coming to the point where your going to have to either find the kid a nhl roster spot, or trade him...
He has very little to prove going back to the AHL at this point imo.

he’s shown he can play responsible 2-way hockey, he’s big, he’ll hit, score here at there, and win face offs. And that’s all in his minimal time here getting 4th line minutes... do again, what’s the point?
It’s not so much that I’m pissed at GG, just more confused what their plans are for the kid..
If I were him, I’d feel like I’m getting a raw deal tbh....
Every game where Barron sits or Jones sits, I start the game annoyed.
 
Should Rangers put in a claim for Pederson? Could help the center depth only 24.


San Jose Sharks Claim Ryan Dzingel; Waive Lane Pederson

Lane Pederson Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

The player he’s replacing in Pederson, meanwhile, has just not been able to create any offense at all this year. In 26 games, Pederson is still without a single goal and has recorded just two assists. The fact that he’s in the first season of a two-year deal that will be one-way in 2022-23, likely keeps him from being claimed on waivers.

I'd pass on him.
 
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