Rick Nash was no “softie”. If you think that then you really were not paying close enough attention. Maybe after the concussion(s) he eased up. But at his best, this was a guy who used his size to drive to the net and lean on opposing players. Played below the goal line and was strong along the boards. He would throw his weight around in a calculated way. Didnt always throw the body but picked his spots to be physical. Was he the most physical player at his size? No, but he was by no means a “softie”. You want to be frustrated he didnt score enough, fine. But lets not label him things that are not true.
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Haula is an interesting option. But I think some team will overpay him and it wont be worth it for us. We would need him for our 3rd line but would not need him there as an overpaid 3rd liner.
I think this free agent class has a lot of “3rd liners” which means you can find someone who is of quality that wont cost a ton or that you overpay for.
I’d rather try and trade Smith to free up money to sign Dillon to a 3 year deal.
I think this free agent class has a lot of “3rd liners” which means you can find someone who is of quality that wont cost a ton or that you overpay for.
I’d rather try and trade Smith to free up money to sign Dillon to a 3 year deal.
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The NBC crew summed up Nash and most of us felt the same way. They said everything but the word soft.
As far as Strome, he’s one of those youngsters fans are hoping will blossom. AZ gave him up quickly and his Hawks showing hasn’t been too great yet. He could be another ADA or DuClair who finds his way or . . . .
Score or hit. Not a fan of low scoring and nothing physical. Especially from the bigger guys.
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The memory of the Nash you describe is tarnished by the Nash we had for the last three seasons of that contract.
Which again was due to the concussions he sustained. Was it his fault Dan Boyle caught him with a cheap shot? I mean Im sure some here who have such blind disdain for Nash will say it was his fault.
But he was not a “softie”. He scored 42 points in 44 games in his first season with us. He sustained the concussion the very next season, the year we went to the cup.
What I admire about Nash is that he transformed his game to become a very, very good 2-Way player. He made sure he would not be useless. His defensive game took significant strides.
I know we only got 2 Nash-like seasons out of him, but he wasnt a complete liability out there. He just became overpaid when he was no longer able to provide 65+ points because his body fell apart.
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Why don't we talk about things that matter and are factual such as Rick Nash being the most effective 5v5 goal scorer in the league during his first 3 years as a Ranger as opposed to making up things that don't matter anyway. I can't imagine how you can dislike Nash because he was "soft" but then not turn around and think the exact same thing about Panarin. Panarin is a better player but Nash was still the best 5v5 goal scorer in the league for a 3 year period so to say Nash wasn't good enough or an elite level so the fact that he was "soft" matters more is pure fallacy.
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Entirely irrelevant.
If there is one thing I truly cannot stand is people just making things up that are entirely baseless. If you don't like Nash that's fine but do it for a real reason. He was bad on the PP. He was not a great playmaker. He had bad results in the playoffs. He had a bunch of injuries and wasn't consistently in the lineup. Maybe you don't like that style of player and prefer someone with a great shot. All fine. Nash was always a physical player. The majority of the goals came from being in front or driving to the net. You want him to fight or something?
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Disagree, people look at size. It’s pretty off comparison IMO as weight and size does play a role on the boards. I don’t expect a 168lbs Panarin to be as physical as a 215lb Nash but obviously you don’t take size into account. Meanwhile, To take this a step farther, Panarin has 26 points over 27 playoff games while Nash 46 points over 89. Not sure what your point is.
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Saw this on Twitter and thought holy is this ever accurate 
"If former 5th overall pick ryan strome’s name was spelled rianne ströme this fanbase would demand a 7 year extension"
"If former 5th overall pick ryan strome’s name was spelled rianne ströme this fanbase would demand a 7 year extension"
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you mentioned Panarin and I never mentioned anything about Strome besides age so I’m sure I know what I’m posting about. Maybe your issue is with others.
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The very common European first name Rianne.Saw this on Twitter and thought holy is this ever accurate
"If former 5th overall pick ryan strome’s name was spelled rianne ströme this fanbase would demand a 7 year extension"
In much the same way, I expected more from Boyle. He played tough, but not as tough as his size diff easily allowed.
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Lias' trade value has sunk like a stone, so at this point it's probably in the best interest of the organization to play ball with him and try to keep him happy and the dialogue open
But I'd still be very surprised if he is here long term. I'd bet if the team gets even close to what they feel is fair for him before next season, they'll trade him.
But I'd still be very surprised if he is here long term. I'd bet if the team gets even close to what they feel is fair for him before next season, they'll trade him.
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agree yet in defense of Boyle, he wasn’t getting Nash type money. Would have been nice to see more Dubinsky or Callahan in him though.
I’m all for physical players which is why I loved Lindgren before some discovered him, higher on Barron who isn’t a Lindgren hitter but like his play and love Lemieux although he’s not quite wired like his father.
Imagine if Boyle had been a Chara-level bully with that frame. Also, I dont think should have to pay someone that big extra just to play mean. Boyle worked every shift, but always acted gun-shy.
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Saw this on Twitter and thought holy is this ever accurate
"If former 5th overall pick ryan strome’s name was spelled rianne ströme this fanbase would demand a 7 year extension"
While there is some truth to that, there's also a large portion of hockey fans who have xenophobic tendencies and dislike every European player unless they're a superstar.
The "Soft European" brigade. Mostly people in their 50s who never left the state and think they are better than everyone else
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I think both sides share the same view in a way, it's like horseshoe theory
Any later picks who are North American have low ceilings but good defensively/physically, and Europeans have high ceilings & skill but bad physically
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