Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXIX

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Strome is going to get overpaid on his next contract, whether by us or another team. 5.5 x 2? I'm ok with that. 7 for any term? No. 5.5 for more than two? No.
I would easily to $5 per for 2-4 years. That sounds like smart business to me, not overpayment.

There is no way he is getting 7.
 
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Yeahhh I gotta see a source or something. I can verify this with my source next time I talk to him too but if Barkov’s name was out there I would 100% know about this. You sure it wasn’t speculation by a writer like “Trade options if Barkov wants out?” Because they were planning a big move for a while and were closer to landing Hall than people think. From what I heard, if they landed Hall and signed him, Huberdeau would be out for a C/D. Ended up not getting him and traded Trocheck, why kill their C depth and their only shot at a legit 1C in Trocheck if Barkov wanted out? I don’t think their done with trades at all, but Im Pretty sure u got it mixed up bud

Nope, there was an article posted here a few weeks ago that definitely mentioned Barkov. @Avery16 said it was spectors but I honestly don't remember.

I'm not trying to say that the articles are right and you're wrong, but it was written about.
 
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We traded Spooner for Strome - anyone that "hates" Strome isn't taking into account how little it cost to get him, what he's produced since he's been here, and what he's worth now. Among Gorton's best moves since his tenure began as a GM.
Certainly looking that way.

And again, being able to deploy Kreider & ZBad on a different line than Panarin is a fabulous weapon to have.
 
Nope, there was an article posted here a few weeks ago that definitely mentioned Barkov. @Avery16 said it was spectors but I honestly don't remember.

I'm not trying to say that the articles are right and you're wrong, but it was written about.
Im scrolling through Spector's. I wish they had a search function. I hopefully am not misremembering. I know Brooks posted an unfounded hypothetical in a mailbag recently.
 
FWIW, Haula and Galy have a career hits/60 close to 3, which isnt horrible. Granlund is closer to 2 and a quarter.
Ok? They’re still soft players. Haula is the closest to not being soft but that’s more due to his aggressive forechecking. Granlund and Chucky are two of the softest players in the league
 
Panarin has only had 3 full-time centers in his NHL career. Finding someone that works with him has never been a chore.

What's your thoughts on signing Strome with the thought that he can be the opposite wing to Panarin for the next 3-4 years considering their chemistry. Finding a suitable center between those two should be relatively easy.
 
I would easily to $5 per for 2-4 years. That sounds like smart business to me, not overpayment.

There is no way he is getting 7.
He's got arbitration rights, and his stats are going to put him into some unreal territory with his comparables. An award might approach 7 million, at which point we either take the bait or cut line and lose him for nothing.
 
Panarin has only had 3 full-time centers in his NHL career. Finding someone that works with him has never been a chore.
Back to "anyone can do it"?

What people are also choosing to conveniently ignore is that Panarin was on pace to shatter all of his own personal best numbers. I am not saying that it was all due to Strome, but to completely dismiss any effect that Strome may have had is silly.

With Panarin, Strome was essentially a 70 point player. I know that is not who he really is, but right now I fell a lot more comfortable with him reaching those numbers than Chytil. Why would I want to rock the boat and overpay another player to come and try to replicate?
 
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Nope, there was an article posted here a few weeks ago that definitely mentioned Barkov. @Avery16 said it was spectors but I honestly don't remember.

I'm not trying to say that the articles are right and you're wrong, but it was written about.
I’m not trying to say I’m right either, just wanted to see some kinda source that wasn’t just speculation by the writer. I’m not trying to be a prick but I feel I would’ve definitely heard something there if there was even chatter from the team about it. My bad
 
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What's your thoughts on signing Strome with the thought that he can be the opposite wing to Panarin for the next 3-4 years considering their chemistry. Finding a suitable center between those two should be relatively easy.
I don’t think a 3/4-year deal is good for the Rangers or Strome. If I’m Strome, I’d want either 1-year or 7-years.

If he takes a 1-year, he’s heading to UFA at 28-years-old coming off of consecutive 60-70 point seasons.
 
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He's got arbitration rights, and his stats are going to put him into some unreal territory with his comparables. An award might approach 7 million, at which point we either take the bait or cut line and lose him for nothing.

It's possible he asks for $7m, at which point I believe most would say cut bait, but if he asks for something more reasonable, say $5.5m on a 3-4 year deal, what then?
 
He's got arbitration rights, and his stats are going to put him into some unreal territory with his comparables. An award might approach 7 million, at which point we either take the bait or cut line and lose him for nothing.
His market comps would need to take into account what he has done historically, not just what he has done when paired with a top-5 player.

I also believe that he is not going to want to take the chances and go UFA to see if he can get a better deal done somewhere else. He has finally found comfort in a coaching staff and a franchise. They have shown confidence with him. He gets to play with one of the best players in the league. I do not think he is out there seeking the last dollar as a UFA.
 
When was the vetted poster list last updated?
There’s a list? How do I get on that? I’ve PM’d and chatted with mods before about this and asked if it was ok if I posted some stuff. One of my earliest posts explains some of this but I’m relatively new and don’t post that much on the board
 
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I don’t think a 3/4-year deal is good for the Rangers or Strome. If I’m Strome, I’d want either 1-year or 7-years.

3 years would be UFA at 29. I would imagine at that time the cap will be increasing as well with the new TV deal and he will have more than likely been playing with Panarin for 4 years, plenty of track record to get a big pay day from someone if desired. I could see a 3 year reasonable deal being attractive to him and the Rangers as it would give them some continuity on Panarin's line for what would hopefully be a reasonable contract.
 
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Back to "anyone can do it"?

What people are also choosing to conveniently ignore is that Panarin was on pace to shatter all of his own personal best numbers. I am not saying that it was all due to Strome, but to completely dismiss any effect that Strome may have had is silly.

With Panarin, Strome was essentially a 70 point player. I know that is not who he really is, but right now I fell a lot more comfortable with him reaching those numbers than Chytil. Why would I want to rock the boat and overpay another player to come and try to replicate?
1. I’m not convinced they’re going to replicate their seasons anyway. Their on-ice shooting percentage was very high this year.

2. I don’t think anyone can do it, I think Chytil can do it. Not Howden, not McKegg.

The guy is making over $11.5M a year. He can carry his own line.
 
What's your thoughts on signing Strome with the thought that he can be the opposite wing to Panarin for the next 3-4 years considering their chemistry. Finding a suitable center between those two should be relatively easy.
But why look for a suitable center when Panarin already has a suitable center?
 
Ok? They’re still soft players. Haula is the closest to not being soft but that’s more due to his aggressive forechecking. Granlund and Chucky are two of the softest players in the league
Well… Strome's hits/60 this season were sub-2. So by that metric hes softer than all of em.
 
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