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Speculation: Roster Building Thread XII

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Random thoughts after the weekend:

  • A lot of people are going to hate the Goodrow contract, but the team clearly envisions a major role for him, whether hes the guy doing the dirty work on Panarin's line or if hes supporting Chytil on the 3rd line.
  • Strome & Buchnevich are goners. They cant commit to Buch with 2 ELC RWs & Goodrow now in the mix. hes a good player, but not irreplaceable like some fans think. Strome i could see traded for cap space and/or to move up in the 1st round.
  • Eichel is still plan A, but i think the Rangers move on if theres no deal by Friday. Either way, with the Horvat/Larkin/Dvorak chatter, it seems clear upgrading at center is clearly at the top of the list
 
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The idea of Dvorak, at least how it started, was to ADD him to Chytil and Zibanejad. Not in lieu of Chytil. He's signed at a reasonable number and plays a nice 200' game. I also believe that moving out of Arizona would increase his stat line to something at or around 55 points a season while providing good 2-way play. The team needs support centers, not elite guys down the middle. There is only so much money to go around.
 
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NYR Viper said:
The idea of Dvorak, at least how it started, was to ADD him to Chytil and Zibanejad. Not in lieu of Chytil. He's signed at a reasonable number and plays a nice 200' game. I also believe that moving out of Arizona would increase his stat line to something at or around 55 points a season while providing good 2-way play. The team needs support centers, not elite guys down the middle. There is only so much money to go around.
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right but if you take away the 15th overall then I’m sure they’re going to ask for him. They want picks or young assets I would assume. If it’s picks only I absolutely trade for him
 
Just to continue the thought, someone with some time today, please do a comparison between Dvorak and Larkin in terms of points, TOI, zone starts, etc. I think we will find that Dvorak compares pretty decently to Larkin. If the cost on Larkin is exorbitant by Yzerman, Dvorak would not be a bad option. Specifically because he is locked into a contract already.
 
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McRanger92 said:
Random thoughts after the weekend:

  • A lot of people are going to hate the Goodrow contract, but the team clearly envisions a major role for him, whether hes the guy doing the dirty work on Panarin's line or if hes supporting Chytil on the 3rd line.
  • Strome & Buchnevich are goners. They cant commit to Buch with 2 ELC RWs & Goodrow now in the mix. hes a good player, but not irreplaceable like some fans think. Strome i could see traded for cap space and/or to move up in the 1st round.
  • Eichel is still plan A, but i think the Rangers move on if theres no deal by Friday. Either way, with the Horvat/Larkin/Dvorak chatter, it seems clear upgrading at center is clearly at the top of the list
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The team envisioning a major role for Goodrow and putting him on Panarin’s line would make this even worse LOL we’d be back at square one with then

Get rid of 72pt best PKer in the NHL so we can pay almost the same money to a bum who’s never hit 25points in his career despite being 2 years older. Buch is better than him in every single facet of hockey, by a literal landslide. No room for Buch though let’s bring in an older bottom 6 guy and play him with Panarin. Is it super hot in NYC right now? Some of you guys brains are melting I swear lol. I’ve never read so many bizarre ideas on this forum as I have the past week.
 
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tlk said:
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Com’on, he tweeted that now? Coming off perhaps the lowest gate and revenue numbers in X years? The franchises appreciated. So has the value of many companies. Are employees getting paid more? The value of real estate skyrocketed too yet unless you cash out you don’t have more money in your pocket.
 
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EdJovanovski said:
The team envisioning a major role for Goodrow and putting him on Panarin’s line would make this even worse LOL we’d be back at square one with then

Get rid of 72pt best PKer in the NHL so we can pay almost the same money to a bum who’s never hit 25points in his career despite being 4 years older. Buch is better than him in every single facet of hockey, by a literal landslide. Is it super hot in NYC right now? Some of you guys brains are melting I swear lol. I’ve never read so many bizarre ideas on this forum as I have the past week.
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Just slight correction, projected this past year, Goodrow was tracking for 30 points. So ha!
 
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I would go “all-in” on Gourde. It makes too much sense for me. I recognize that this is a typical ‘summer romance’ I get with ideas regarding the Rangers, and others might not agree, but it’s were I am at… :)

Granted that it costs us Strome and Buch in one or a serial of deals, this is what I would do with the top 9, which should be backed up by a classic Gallant 4th line.

Goodrow-Gourde-Kakko //This would be my match-up line. Think Goodrow-Gourde more or less are the perfect linemates for Kakko. Gourde’s speed at center ice will back the other team down and open up space for Kakko. Goodrow will open up space for him in the attacking zone.
Panarin-Ziba-Laf //This line gets freedom. They will figure it out. I want three “Gallant” lines on the team. Panarin and Zib will not necessarily play to that end, put them together and you get it.
Kreider-Chytil-Kravy //This fits the bill as a good Gallant line from my POV. Well over 600 lbs. Three players who are strong on the puck, skilled. Kreider is experienced and can steer this line in the right direction.
X-Rooney-X
 
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Goodrow's camp is going to use Brandon Tanev as his comparable. Tanev signed with Pittsburgh 2 years ago but teams didn't know about COVID. He signed a 6 year deal for $3.5m per season. My sense is that we see a similar term (6 years) at $3.2-3.3m per season.
 
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We could use a raised cap because it helps the Rangers.

I don't care that players aren't going to get their desired salary increases during a global pandemic where many of us or people we know have either lost their jobs/businesses or had their revenues or pay effected by it.

I don't need to hear from Allan Walsh.
 
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Fitzy said:
I really hope playoff only players doesn't become a new norm around the league.

Among other concerns, it'll really mess with regular season statistics/award/records.
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At the end of the day, I’d exact most or certainly many players would want to play. Wouldn’t want to sit idle for 7 months. The shortened season made that calculus a lot different. I’d be surprised if it really caught on.
 
EdJovanovski said:
The team envisioning a major role for Goodrow and putting him on Panarin’s line would make this even worse LOL we’d be back at square one with then

Get rid of 72pt best PKer in the NHL so we can pay almost the same money to a bum who’s never hit 25points in his career despite being 2 years older. Buch is better than him in every single facet of hockey, by a literal landslide. No room for Buch though let’s bring in an older bottom 6 guy and play him with Panarin. Is it super hot in NYC right now? Some of you guys brains are melting I swear lol. I’ve never read so many bizarre ideas on this forum as I have the past week.
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Carp, Vince, Seravelli & Friedman have all mentioned that Buch is on the block. Either he needs to sign a team friendly extension or hes getting traded. I love him as a player but Kreider + Lafreniere + Flat Cap has put the writing on the wall. Clearly, lots of fans are having trouble coming to terms with this.
 
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How to kill @EdJovanovski

Step 1: Give Trouba the C.
Step 2: Sign Goodrow.
Step 3: Trade Buch.

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AirGut said:
You guys realize players like Gourde and Dvorak aren't guys you go "all-in" for,


r-right?
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I don't think anyone here (or if there are people here, it is very few) who are saying open up the coffers for Dvorak. I think, like most things, it's a nuanced take. The price for Dvorak will be less than others in terms of assets, his age fits the team well, and he projects to be a good 2-way support type center. This means that he may not break the bank either after his current contract which is actually a good contract in terms of term and cap hit.

Now, if the cost is the same between Larkin and Dvorak, most people would agree Larkin would be a better fit. If Yzerman is asking for Kravtsov + Jones + 1st while Dvorak costs Hajek + Jones + 1st, then, IMO, with all things considered, I'd prefer Dvorak
 
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tlk said:
His points still stand regardless.
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you’re ignoring the rest which is part of they why. His point pertains to many companies. Do you get a raise when your company is worth more?

I get the players are the product but are the selling more? Are revenues up? Most of the NHL is in the red.
 
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NYR Viper said:
Goodrow's camp is going to use Brandon Tanev as his comparable. Tanev signed with Pittsburgh 2 years ago but teams didn't know about COVID. He signed a 6 year deal for $3.5m per season. My sense is that we see a similar term (6 years) at $3.2-3.3m per season.
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I agree. Also important to note Tanev got a 10 team no trade list for the duration of the deal.

The deal is also structured evenly throughout. 1M in SB and 2.5 in salary for all 6 years.

Can NYR get the AAV and/or the no trade list down from 3.5 by front loading?
 
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