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Speculation: Roster Building Thread XII

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LaffyTaffyNYR said:
is Chytil really a "3C'? he's not good defensively, he doesn't really hit, he can't win face offs.. Thats kinda what you want in a 3C.. I understand people not wanting to give up on him, but if he's not a top 6 center he's probably worth more in a trade.

and yes all of these in time can come, he's young.. That doesn't mean the Rangers are going to give him the time to do it.
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I would think they're expecting to know what they have in Chytil this coming season. Not to say that it's piss or get off the pot for him, but he's got almost 200 NHL games under his belt and enough talent around him to be able to put it together. The signs are there too. Before he hurt his hand last year, he was one of the best players on the ice most games. It didn't translate to the scoresheet, but he was flying.

With that said, they have to actually give him that opportunity. Both sides are out of excuses coming into this season...
 
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Chytil is going to breakout soon. Last year he more than passed the eye test. I hope it doesnt turn into a case of NYR gave up on him too early chasing overrated 'superstars'. I believe he's at a minimum the 2C of the future.

I want to see what Gallant can do with this roster as well. Quinn was so bad that he made the team worse just like AV before him.
 
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Just as an afterthought to my last post in regards to Goodrow being attached at the hip to Chytil. One of the reasons Goodrow is such a valuable commodity to a growing team like the Rangers is his flexibility. Gallant is going to be able to move him around not only between lines but also to different positions based on who is playing well or who may be hurt. The flexibility of having a guy who can literally play anywhere within a lineup is so important with so many unknowns on this team. For example:
Will Chytil be a center?
Will Kaako take a step?
Will Kravtsov prove he’s a top-6 winger?
Is Kravtsov a winger or center?
Will Lafreniere take a step?
Will Panarin gel with either Kravtsov or Kaako?
Will Panarin gel with Chytil?

This team is in flux and guys like Goodrow are easy guys to play with. He knows his role, he plays the game the same way every night and he’s effective.

In saying all of that, it would have been great to add Goodrow to a lineup that included Fast. Either way, the team will need to find a couple more guys like this more than likely.
 
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Bruins protected Frederic over Ritchie.
Carolina protected Fast over Nino.
And yes, LA protected Lias over Lemieux and Athanasiou.
Interesting depth available from Minnesota, between Rask, Bjugstad and Bonino.
The younger Raddysh left unprotected by TB.
 
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Leetch3 said:
to that point why would sea pick goodrow or any pending ufa when they can negotiate a contract, select blackwell or gauthier and then just sign goodrow as a UFA
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The only reason would be to have a few extra days of exclusive negotiating- which, as we have seen, is of relatively limited trade value.

IDK what Blackwell and Gauthier are worth right now but I'd wager it's at least more than a 7th rounder.
 
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jay from jersey said:
Goodrow would immensely help the penalty kill.
1. He’s a good penalty killer.
2. He can win important D Zone draws.
Take a look at what he did against the isles in game 7 running out the clock with 4 isles players draped all over him. We need things like that.
With no strome here, we will not see him on the first PP unit, and your going to get a massive uptick in points for LaF/ Kakko just by being older more mature and getting more minutes especially on the PP.
I can see not wanting to give the guy 4 mill a year. I would absolutely love him for 3 flat, and be pretty happy with him for 3.5. It’s not like he’s not worth his contract. He’s one of the premier bottom 6 guys out there, instrumental in 2 cup wins for Tampa.
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That play where he held the puck on the boards in the final minute of Game 7 is what sold me. Listen to how the Lightning players and coaches talk about Goodrow, hes exactly what this team is missing. Id give him the Tanev contract (6 years/3.5 mil AAV) without hesitation
 
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Dvorak is a great example of HF buying into this idea that average players on bad teams are all underrated and really well kept secrets and not just mediocre

LaffyTaffyNYR said:
is Chytil really a "3C'? he's not good defensively, he doesn't really hit, he can't win face offs.. Thats kinda what you want in a 3C.. I understand people not wanting to give up on him, but if he's not a top 6 center he's probably worth more in a trade.

and yes all of these in time can come, he's young.. That doesn't mean the Rangers are going to give him the time to do it.
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2011 called, they want their roster construction back lol
 
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Bluto said:
Chytil is going to breakout soon. Last year he more than passed the eye test. I hope it doesnt turn into a case of NYR gave up on him too early chasing overrated 'superstars'. I believe he's at a minimum the 2C of the future.

I want to see what Gallant can do with this roster as well. Quinn was so bad that he made the team worse just like AV before him.
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I look forward to seeing this pop up every year until 2030 :sarcasm:
 
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Raspewtin said:
Dvorak is a great example of HF buying into this idea that average players on bad teams are all underrated and really well kept secrets and not just mediocre.

that’s just plain not true. There are plenty of instances where a player is held back by their environment for whatever reasons. Not enough minutes/talent/wrong offensive system/coaching etc.

that’s just plain not true. There are plenty of instances where a player is held back by their environment for whatever reasons. Not enough minutes/talent/wrong offensive system/coaching etc
You mean to tell me you don’t think Dvorak has the offensive chops to break 45 points when centering an elite winger like panarin and flanked by kakko/ Kravtsov ?? Especially with fox and his outlet/ no look passing skills?
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that’s just plain not true. There are plenty of instances where a player is held back by their environment for whatever reasons. Not enough minutes/talent/wrong offensive system/coaching etc
You mean to tell me you don’t think Dvorak has the offensive chops to break 45 points when centering an elite winger like panarin and flanked by kakko/ Kravtsov ?? Especially with fox and his outlet/ no look passing skills
 
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Given Eichel’s remaining term, NYR would be outbid by teams with the cap space but have a hard time attracting FAs. Yet another reason to just stay out of that.
 
Raspewtin said:
Dvorak gets a shit load of minutes and PP1 time with every star Arizona has ever had and Chytil stomps him in ES scoring rates.
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Chytil plays against weaker competition with better line mates and a better all around team. Also in a more coherent offensive structure.
Im surprised Dvo still manages to pace close to 50 pts on that Garbage team.
Also, team morale is an actual thing. It’s tough to come to the rink night in and night out and play for a perpetual loser. Stepan s numbers also took a nose dive when he arrived in Phoenix
 
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Miro Heiskanen’s deal is telling. Fox, Laf & Kakko are going to cost a fortune. Can’t keep all three if you’re going to keep Trouba, Kreider, Zibby and Buch.
 
jay from jersey said:
Chytil plays against weaker competition with better line mates and a better all around team. Also in a more coherent offensive structure.
I surprised Dvo still manages to pace close to 50 pts on that Garbage team
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no he doesn't. Chytil has spent extremely minimal time with top 6 forwards his NHL career. Dvorak has been stapled to every top line forward Arizona has ever had.

"tougher competition" is drastically outweighed by the discrepancy in minutes, PP time, offensive situations, and linemate quality.

He paces close to 50 because he plays 20 minutes a game. He's not exactly efficient doing it.
 
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Raspewtin said:
no he doesn't. Chytil has spent extremely minimal time with top 6 forwards his NHL career. Dvorak has been stapled to every top line forward Arizona has ever had.

"tougher competition" is drastically outweighed by the discrepancy in minutes, PP time, offensive situations, and linemate quality.

He paces close to 50 because he plays 20 minutes a game. He's not exactly efficient doing it.
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Agree to disagree on this one. There are many examples of players doing superb after a change of scenery. Lindholm, Strome, Bennett to name a few. But there are many more that have elevated their overall game and point totals just by leaving a constant loser
 
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