In all honesty, I think Tampa would have been better off letting Goodrow walk than acquiring a 7th round pick. Why would you give a future, competitive, in-conference team rights to a player who can shut down your offensive talent?
Speculation: Roster Building Thread XII
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SingnBluesOnBroadway
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Not trading Strome for a 2nd or two.
Yeah, I've said it before - the trick is to find the Goodrows and Colemans before they are the big names. The Rangers are currently in a situation where they need to improve the bottom 6 and add more grit, but creating an anchor contract (or several) to do so is not the smart way.
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SingnBluesOnBroadway
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Because that same team could sign him and the Bolts get nothing?
I can't remember the last time I've seen a longer term deal for a third liner work out. Those 'guys you win with' are no longer that when they're making 4, 5, 6 million. Clarkson, Brouwer, Sutter, etc. These deals always suck by year 2.
You need to develop these guys young, eventually let them go, and replace them from within. Or in Tampa's case, add them after literally everything else is in place and let them go.
You need to develop these guys young, eventually let them go, and replace them from within. Or in Tampa's case, add them after literally everything else is in place and let them go.
NYR Viper
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Again, I’d take Tanev if Seattle takes him in expansion. Throw another late round pick to Seattle
TheBloodyNine
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You win with guys like Goodrow when they are making small amounts of money. Not while making 4 million. f*** the 7th round pick next year, I’d pay that just so they didn’t sign this guy.
Machinehead
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the Rangers are competing for the Stanley Cup not the Salary Cap Cup.
Absolutely, you have to be smart, and do the best you can with the constraints of the league. At the same time, every good team is in cap hell.
The league is designed that way. Cap hell and being bad are your choices. There isn't a middle ground.
More and more teams are going to start "cheating." I don't think it's gonna work but Montreal tried to pull shit with Price, that's obvious.
You have to overpay players and then purge to win the Stanley Cup. That's why the overall quality of teams is down, which I complain about all the time.
This is the league the owners wanted and it's the league we play in. We don't get a choice. Just be thankful they keep Arizona around solely to dump cap onto.
We have a two year window before Kreider develops a "rare illness" and we should take advantage of it.
Absolutely, you have to be smart, and do the best you can with the constraints of the league. At the same time, every good team is in cap hell.
The league is designed that way. Cap hell and being bad are your choices. There isn't a middle ground.
More and more teams are going to start "cheating." I don't think it's gonna work but Montreal tried to pull shit with Price, that's obvious.
You have to overpay players and then purge to win the Stanley Cup. That's why the overall quality of teams is down, which I complain about all the time.
This is the league the owners wanted and it's the league we play in. We don't get a choice. Just be thankful they keep Arizona around solely to dump cap onto.
We have a two year window before Kreider develops a "rare illness" and we should take advantage of it.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
The Rangers need to find their Benoit Pouliot and Dominic Moore, not overpay a guy by 50-100% just because he was the third while on a great line on a championship team.
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I’m curious if the Rangers are going to use Goodrow if signed as the 3C. That would be worth a little more in cap. Something like Kreider-Goodrow-Kravtsov
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Of course it's not the only way to be good. It may be the quickest and the easiest, getting a guy that checks a lot of the boxes they are looking to get ticked in one swoop. But if the goal is to set yourself up to have the best possible peak a couple years down the road, Goodrow at this price point falls short.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
Because one of those things would be detrimental.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
Vince did write in that article that the Rangers wouldn't mind playing him at center.
Machinehead
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At the same time, letting go of Pouliot for $4.5m was a bad move. He exceeded that value on Edmonton according to bang for buck analytics. Edmonton was just a shit team.
We never replaced anything that he or Hagelin did to this day.
And then the team rebuilt and traded every vet contract anyway so what did it matter?
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
The other would be detrimental if it doesn't work out and we don't have Goodrow.
I'm not suggesting to throw a 6 year 24 million dollar contract at him. But I wouldn't shy away from ponying up a good amount.
Machinehead
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Also, "finding your own" is kinda just something we made up. Tampa didn't. They traded firsts for Goodrow and Coleman. I'll sign up for back to back Cups.
Tob
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By Wednesday, we'll be saying "Anything less than 7 years $5M a year for Goodrow without NMC on his final year will be fantastic"
PuckLuck3043
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EdJovanovski
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Berard will be one of those “players you win with” when he comes up in a couple years
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Change is good.
Not to mention that the team is taking steps toward trying to develop their own. Both the Cuylle and Berard picks in last year’s draft were efforts in that direction. I imagine we’ll see more on Fri/Sat.
Thirty One
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"Dolan is a genius for talking down Goodrow to only a 15% share of the Madison Square Garden Company."
Raspewtin
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how long do you want to wait ? when is it okay to start looking elsewhere to upgrade the team?
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